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REDDEATH 01-23-2008 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 2417047)
1000hp is asking alot out of a 572ci marine motor...if this is the first 1000hp boat motor these guys are building there is going to be an expensive learning curve.
Horsepower is horsepower (be it auto or marine applications) Something is drastically wrong if a close to 600 cubic inch BUILT ENGINE supercharged( by a highly efficient intercooled WHIPPLE Blower ) can not mahe 1000 horsepower on pump gas.Hell the last supercharged Viper made he did with a much smaller (488 cu )blower and intercooler madr 850.

REDDEATH 01-23-2008 01:26 PM
Panther what do you think you would have made using CNC ported Dart heads ,T&D OR jesel valvetrain with newest Whipple blower-intercooler set up.(The Whipple alone is probably good for 150 horsepower without the alum high flow heads.

REDDEATH 01-23-2008 01:32 PM
PS the Whiple sales rep claims the above set up on a 572 (pump gas engine ) BUILT engine will be good for at least 1050 horsepower.

Back4More 01-23-2008 02:35 PM
Hope that was Dustin you spoke with.

Panther 01-23-2008 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by REDDEATH (Post 2417749)
Panther what do you think you would have made using CNC ported Dart heads ,T&D OR jesel valvetrain with newest Whipple blower-intercooler set up.(The Whipple alone is probably good for 150 horsepower without the alum high flow heads.
With good heads, intercooler and a bigger blower(10, 12,14-71)I think I would have made around 950 hp....any more than that I would need a bigger cam than what I have.

People were making 1200 hp with the quad rotor whipples and good heads... The new Whipples are super expensive from what I hear and the dealers aren't getting much of a break on price.

Panther 01-23-2008 02:53 PM
Little preview of the project... http://www.lucidideefastboats.com/images/Geronimo.wmv

TeamSaris 01-23-2008 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 2417081)
Here is how we got 800HP/5600rpm...on min 91 Octane.

557ci Dart Blocks, 4.375" stroke Callies Cranks, 4.500" 8:1 Ross Blower pistons, Manley I beam rods, Canfield 350 alum. heads, Manley severe duty valves, Isky hyd roller cams, Tool room gold springs,
Holley 750 Blower carbs, BlowerShop 10-71s @ 6psi boost, MSD dist. 32*/ 2500rpm. CMI Elbow Tops.
Sorry phone pic.
They look good Mark. :cool-smiley-011::D

fountain 47 sc 01-23-2008 03:29 PM
Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2417877)
With good heads, intercooler and a bigger blower(10, 12,14-71)I think I would have made around 950 hp....any more than that I would need a bigger cam than what I have.

People were making 1200 hp with the quad rotor whipples and good heads... The new Whipples are super expensive from what I hear and the dealers aren't getting much of a break on price.
Just wait a bit on the new Whipples. With the economy the way it is and gas prices so high it's only a matter of time before the big discounts.

Back4More 01-23-2008 04:43 PM
Panther, Nice slide show and clips.
We have about the same old same old going on.:drink:

Back4More 01-23-2008 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 2417911)
They look good Mark. :cool-smiley-011::D
Tell Dad I take good care of them...:p


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