stay away from rossi
 

this fellow offered a 1999 42 fountin for sale a few weeks ago. after making arrangements to meet his to buy it, i found out the seller was hiding info. the 2 engines need to be removed and all springs replaced. lastt year, on spring broke and the last owner jsut replaced that one spring. the marina warned his the limit was 200 hrs and needed replacement of all springs. he did not go with it.
whoever buys the boat, get ready to take the engines out and rebuild the heads or more.

seller is a liar and not accurate with his description. wasted my time and his time as well.

70k was the agreed price. seller said the boat was clean and that the last owner was very strict on how he serviced his boat and always did whatever was needed. never cut corners.
i trusted that and went along until i spoke to the mechanics that took care of the boat.

buyer beware.
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Steve,

You little puke. Anyone with a brain can read all of your posts, and all of mine and easily figure out who is lying.

Enigines need to be pulled? Spring broke? You are a POS liar.

Why would I put you in touch with the previous mechanic and marina if I was trying to deceive you in the first place Sherlock?

You tried to get me into a weak position by shortening my vacation and then trying to bang me down on the price, only you found out that was not going to happen.

How many boats have you offered to buy on this site you little wannabe? Go get yourself some oars and a rowboat and &*^%^ off puke.

be polite on the forum. a piece of advice .
the fellow you sent me to never did anything to the boat other than winterize it.
he said he believed the "other marina" did the work.
after calling them , i got do the right person and got all the info which i trasfered to you with names etc.

now since then, HAVE YOU CORRECTED THE INFO ON YOUR BOAT ?
HAVE YOU UPDATED THE DESCRIPTION OF YOUR BOAT ?
I GAVE YOU THE NAME AND CONTACT NAME OF THE MARINA RESPONSIBLE WHO HANDLES THE BOAT WHEN THE SPRING BROKE LAST SUMMER. HE WAS PRETTY CLEAR : I TOLD THE LAST OWNER AND AM TELLING YOU YOU NEED TO REPLACE ALL OF THE SPRINGS ON BOTH HEADS, ON BOTH MOTORS. ENGINES BOTH NEED TO GET PULLED OUT.HEADS REMOVED.ETC....
YOU DID NOT UPDATE IT AS YOU WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE THINKING THE BOAT IS FULLY SERVICED BY THE LAST OWNER WHO WAS A FANATIC AT UP-KEEPING HIS BOAT.

DEAR PUKE,I QUOTE, YOUR LAST OWNER WAS TOLD HE NEEDED TO RE-DO ALL OF THEM AT 200 HRS TOPS. HE IS AT 386 HRS NOW. ALL OTHERS WILL BREAK VERY SOON. SOMEONE WILL LOSE THE SUMMER FIXING THE BOAT. SAY IT LIKE IT IS AND YOU WILL SELL THE BOAT. BE HONEST AND TRUTHFUL.

i did not buy the boat only because as i called, bad news showed up. not a broken gage but engines , heads, needing to get pulled out. i am and was not ready top go through this project of yours.
i called and told you and gave you options.

instead of fighting with a sword strinking water,basically wasting energy, go re-post the boat you have for sale properly and honestly and accurately. stop putting out your anger of being stuck with a boat on me . i was buying the boat.
no one here can say that i said i was buying and never showed up or never paid or ever re-negociated after the deal was done.
yes, i had to fight a fountain dealer about certain issues but,since then, never had an issue.
so to all the idiots fueling this thread with baseless posts, all you are doing is damaging the boat he has for sale by lenghtening this stupid thread.

stop posting that i am a puke,idiot and whatever it is you are posting. clean up the story to your boat and sell it.

aint this the reason why you came here in the 1st place ?

now, if you want to escalate this to a fight on the forum, i will go and get my boxing gloves and start punching back .

if you are ready to turn the page and understand that i pulled out of the deal in a proper manner by letting you know what it is that was wrong and that it needed something major done to it for it to be used without blowing engines which are springs, i dont know what to tell you at this point.

in my book, having to get major work done like this is enough to pull out or re-offer.
THERE WAS MATERIAL FOR THAT.
let the threads die and turn the page. i was not out to take advantage or beat you down. my 1st offer was firm based on the emails that the last owner was very very strict with his mechanicals of the boat which 2 phone calls later showed otherwise. SIMPLE !

please, for both our sakes, turn the page. we are not to gain anything here, only to lose. and that is BOTH of us.

Why do you have to pull the engines to replace springs?

Steve,

I am going to give you a few sentences of poiliteness for the sake of the forum.

I stated

1. I got the boat from a business deal from my partner
2. He is well known as being an upstanding person who takes care of his toys. (Fountain, Donzi, straight axle vette, etc. He is not an idiot who beats on his things.
3. He bought this boat brand new, and I am the second owner.
4. I did not believe the hours on the gauge (57 hours), so prior to listing, I paid a marine mechanic to come to my house and scan the engines and found 368 hours, which I disclosed immediately
5. The boat spent its entire life in fresh water.
6. Due to the increased hours (disclosed to you) and the fact that I spoke with the guy who worked on the boat previously who stated he did not think the engines were rebuilt, I basically offered to give the boat to you at a price reflecting the worst case scenario (70K)
7.This would have been by far the lowest priced 42 staggered Lightning that I could find in the USA.
8. You agreed to the price and had me leave my family vacation to arrange pickup of the boat, not renegotiation, pickup.
9. After I got all the way home, you started the hard sell of "are you really going to let this deal die for $3k? What's another $3k. etc etc etc and on and on.
10. I killed the deal and drove back to be with my family.

I still have never been told by anyone that this broke a spring, or exactly what that means to me or you now. I am unsure if it ever did, and I am obviously hesitant to take anything you say at face value. Bottom line $70k for a 42 Fountain.

This is the beginning, middle and end of the story. What is the story with all the other boats you have offered to "write a check for" big spender?

thay have to pull the engines cuz the marina knows this guy doesnt know that you can change springs with the heads still on the motor

This thread illustrates why it is worth the percentage to have a reputable dealer sell your boat on consignment.

Some guy pulled this on my friend trading a Jupiter & buying a Cabo oldest trick in the book!!Good you pulled out of the deal they agree on price you deliver they start the old this & that is wrong!!I'll side with Rossi on this 1 and he's American:violent-smiley-045:

Never saw but what year Fountain?

Float....that is the best Avator on here!!!! :ernaehrung004:

Boat is a 1999.

Wow,

Rossi, I feel for you......Most people that would actually have the 70K to spend on the deal of a life time would have a little more cooth than to put you through all of this.

Even if the deal fell through at the last moment, a respectful "potential buyer" would at least throw a little $$CHING$$ your way for all of the BS......at least a little gas money which would still be an insult but an attemp at being reasonable the very least.

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:eekdrop: 70k? Once the tire kickers clear the way you should move it very quickly. Good luck Rossi

OMG, Springs???????? On used 1999 42 fountain........for $70K. Whoever heard of such a thing? I bet it has a few scratches too. Maybe even a stain on the carpet. Run man run

70K for a 99 42 is a hell of a deal, if all it takes is to refresh the top end of the motors big freakin deal!

I'll bet the air in the trailer tires needed changed, too. :grinser010: Seriously, valve springs ... what's the big deal? Uh oh, probably should have new seawater pump impellers too, bet they told you the engines need come out for those, too, right?

No matter how bad I wanted it I would not have pulled anyone away from their family let alone try to low ball them afterwards.
If there was something wrong it just means I didnt do my homework BEFORE making an offer.
Your a class guy,, I would have been putting foot to ass.

Spot on in my opinion...:ernaehrung004:

Yea,

Thats what I thought. I really do not want to give anybody problems. I got the boat for debt owed, and now just want to move it. This way everyone is happy. I cannot get those days of vacation with my kids back for any $$.

Under $70k and I will let my girls use in in the backyard as a fort. It is not costing me anything, and I really do not need the money. This is why I hate selling things, More of a P.I.T.A. than it is worth.

Maybe I will have a 42' bonfire and write off the bad debt. might be easier.

Thanks for your input, it is really appreciated.

First of all....not having top ends done at 360 hours on a set of 500 effies is not the end of the world. Second of all.... Valve springs, seals, retainers big deal who cares?! That is so cheap and is considered basic maintanance that can be done with the heads still on the motors and the motors still in the boat with nothing more than an afternoon and some parts from Summit Racing or Jegs. Third of all.....It's is a 42 lightning for only 70k! Got to be an idiot to walk away from that deal. I can hear Rossi jamming out in his car to the Billy Squire song... The stroke right now! I think you that Steveman is obviously uneducated as evidenced by his posting and has terminated the deal for another undisclosed reason. I think every one on here would not pass on a 42 lightning at 70k just because the boat needed valve springs replaced. :Whatever:


RAF

Like I said.... If it is a situation where the buyer is uneducated and is recieving bad information from a marina trying to high gross him on a service bill that is a different story. I just can't see a guy that claims he owns or owned a 35 Fountain being that dumb. Which leads us to believe there is another agenda why he nixed the deal and ruined Rossi's vacation with his family.

At any rate, the boat's been pretty well documented by the owner on this thread alone. Shouldn't have any problem moving it now, and the ad price has been free.

Aggravation's always extra :angry-smiley-038: