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nick9671 02-20-2010 10:39 AM

Dash Upgrade....
 
I am replacing all guages, switches, throttle controls, the steering wheel and the dash panel on my 98 fever. I got a quote from livorsi for all parts needed and the total came up to about $4700. Now being in the car business I know how bad parts are marked up and I think its probably safe to say boat accessories/parts are marked up even more. Does anyone have any advice/sources to get everything I need/want for a little cheaper? I know these toys are expensive but man I had a little sticker shock when I saw that....

TampaBeach 02-20-2010 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by nick9671 (Post 3050975)
I am replacing all guages, switches, throttle controls, the steering wheel and the dash panel on my 98 fever. I got a quote from livorsi for all parts needed and the total came up to about $4700. Now being in the car business I know how bad parts are marked up and I think its probably safe to say boat accessories/parts are marked up even more. Does anyone have any advice/sources to get everything I need/want for a little cheaper? I know these toys are expensive but man I had a little sticker shock when I saw that....

Well its just an idea but how bad is your dash?? 1998 probably white with whit gauges, correct? Just take the panel off (gauges out) MAKE SURE YOU LABEL ALL WIRES, take it to a painter and have them do a easy custome paint on it, buy some colored bezels and put it all back on. Shouldn't cost more than $1,000 and would probably look pretty bad ass. New steering wheel about $350 no way around that one, but it does make a huge difference.:evilb:

tomtbone1993 02-20-2010 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by nick9671 (Post 3050975)
I am replacing all guages, switches, throttle controls, the steering wheel and the dash panel on my 98 fever. I got a quote from livorsi for all parts needed and the total came up to about $4700. Now being in the car business I know how bad parts are marked up and I think its probably safe to say boat accessories/parts are marked up even more. Does anyone have any advice/sources to get everything I need/want for a little cheaper? I know these toys are expensive but man I had a little sticker shock when I saw that....

lol us car guys are hard to deal with:party-smiley-004::coolcowboy:

nick9671 02-20-2010 01:04 PM

haha no doubt man I always feel like I am gettin high grossed!!!

Back4More 02-20-2010 03:02 PM

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To be honest with you that's not a bad price....this was $5K a few years ago

t500hps 02-20-2010 03:14 PM

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I re-did my dash last winter......this cost under $1K


BUT, I re-used my gauges with new bezels, same throttles, installed GPS I already had. New wheel, bezels, and all panels that were made by the factory supplier.

Wildman_grafix 02-20-2010 05:30 PM

I am doing mine and the most expensive will be the shifter/throttles.

Best price I found was at http://www.topnotchperformancemarine...home.php?cat=0

I am painting the dash panel myself, sent the gauges in for new bezels and glass. ($343)
Won't be to bad when I am done.

nick9671 02-20-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 3051140)
To be honest with you that's not a bad price....this was $5K a few years ago

well I guess I just need to ink up then huh, I am getting a similar setup to what you have...

aTX427 02-20-2010 10:18 PM

You can send your existing gauges to Livorsi and they can change out the rims for next to nothing. The throttles can be taken apart and chromed or powder coated and there are places you can send the dash plate for a carbon fiber look or have it custom painted. This should be much less expensive than buying all new components, but will require a bit more effort.

mapism 02-21-2010 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by aTX427 (Post 3051371)
you can send the dash plate for a carbon fiber look or have it custom painted.

I also considered that for my dash plate, but what about all the labels?

Wildman_grafix 02-21-2010 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by mapism (Post 3051512)
I also considered that for my dash plate, but what about all the labels?

Lirvoirs can do it was as others.
They give u a new panel. You keep your old one.
See above for redoing your gauges I just got mine back about 1 week ago.

Back4More 02-21-2010 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by nick9671 (Post 3051222)
well I guess I just need to ink up then huh, I am getting a similar setup to what you have...

That looks awesome! Great choice...Let us know how it works out.

Back4More 02-21-2010 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3051541)
Lirvoirs can do it was as others.
They give u a new panel. You keep your old one.
See above for redoing your gauges I just got mine back about 1 week ago.

Can't wait to see yours!

mapism 02-21-2010 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3051541)
Lirvoirs can do it was as others.
They give u a new panel. You keep your old one.

Yup, but since you said that you repainted the panel yourself, what I was wondering is what you did with the labels...

t500hps 02-21-2010 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by mapism (Post 3051512)
I also considered that for my dash plate, but what about all the labels?

My new panels are true carbon fiber and all the factory labels were silk screened on them....right down to the "run blower before starting" info. Innotech Products did them and supplies alot of OEM's.

FuelinAround 02-21-2010 12:56 PM

Livorsi is doing mine next year. Twin motors was about 3 grand for all new gauges and switches. Shifter was another 1500 and steering wheel like 3-500. Also that included livorsi cutting a carbon fiber panel and fitting everything along with laser etching the wording.

Wildman_grafix 02-21-2010 03:31 PM

They are going to laser mine.

nick9671 02-22-2010 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3051688)
They are going to laser mine.

Yea I believe from talking to them that all labels on the panel are lasered in, I can't send my guages in they are too discolored, old, and some not even working. I think I am going to do it the right way and get everything new, guess I am just going to have to pay the big price tag...

nick9671 02-22-2010 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by kyboy1020 (Post 3051620)
Livorsi is doing mine next year. Twin motors was about 3 grand for all new gauges and switches. Shifter was another 1500 and steering wheel like 3-500. Also that included livorsi cutting a carbon fiber panel and fitting everything along with laser etching the wording.

you are right on with the prices, exactly what mine is costing, was surprised the throttles and shifters were so expensive

FuelinAround 02-22-2010 10:47 AM

The shifter were expensive but what about those stupid little white switches???? I think I had like $400 worth of those ha.

Wildman_grafix 02-22-2010 12:00 PM

Top notch gave me a lower price for Livorsi shifters then Livorsi. They also had the best price on trim rings.

http://www.topnotchperformancemarine...home.php?cat=0

GAFFRIG PERFORMANCE gave me a good price IF I needed to change all the gauges, you may want to check with them. My gauges just needed new rims and glass, plus the pointers were faded on the TACHs and speedo so I didn't need new ones.

I talked with Mike Schultz

runafever 02-22-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by nick9671 (Post 3051222)
well I guess I just need to ink up then huh, I am getting a similar setup to what you have...


Hey that's my boat! That's probably not too bad of a price when considering the parts and the labor involved. I took the old dash, gauges, and throttles and sold them on OSO or ebay to offset some of the cost. It helped a bunch.


RAf

runafever 02-22-2010 12:19 PM

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It came out real nice. Might as well do the port side while you are at it though.

Wildman_grafix 02-22-2010 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by runafever (Post 3052187)
It came out real nice. Might as well do the port side while you are at it though.

Glad you posted that picture, I was wondering if I wanted to do the port side as well.

Looks like I have my answer.

nick9671 02-22-2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by runafever (Post 3052187)
It came out real nice. Might as well do the port side while you are at it though.

yea raf I am doin mine exactly the same (hope you don't mind), I was just going to do a couple upgrades here and there then I saw a pic of yours and that is so nice lookin, you did it up right!! Now showing me the port side isn't gonna help my sticker shock that I already have, I am easily sold so dont show me anymore!!

nick9671 02-22-2010 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by runafever (Post 3052184)
Hey that's my boat! That's probably not too bad of a price when considering the parts and the labor involved. I took the old dash, gauges, and throttles and sold them on OSO or ebay to offset some of the cost. It helped a bunch.


RAf

Never thought of that, I think I might try that. Not gonna lie though mine are pretty bad looking. You have a fine looking boat, did you get all of your parts directly from Livorsi?

runafever 02-22-2010 03:18 PM

Just some paint and another GPS mounted in the glove compartment. The second GPS is not that expensive because you can use the puck off of the starboard dash and do not need to add a second. You can do the other side for around a few hundred.

RAF

Back4More 02-22-2010 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by runafever (Post 3052187)
It came out real nice. Might as well do the port side while you are at it though.

Looks fantastic!

mapism 02-22-2010 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3051688)
They are going to laser mine.

Do you mean on the dash panel which you painted yourself?
If so, I'd be interested to know how did you paint it exactly.
I don't think laser etching can be done on any kind of painted alloy - or am I mistaken?

Wildman_grafix 02-24-2010 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by mapism (Post 3052509)
Do you mean on the dash panel which you painted yourself?
If so, I'd be interested to know how did you paint it exactly.
I don't think laser etching can be done on any kind of painted alloy - or am I mistaken?

I have not had them do mine yet but they said as long as the substrate is smooth no problem.

As for how I am going to paint it, that's easy. It is just aluminum so I will just strip and paint like any other piece of metal.

Wildman_grafix 02-26-2010 12:42 PM

Does anyone know where I can buy the small indicator lights at?

I have a couple that were out.

US1 Fountain 02-26-2010 01:08 PM

The little red lights? Bought mine from Livosi.

Wildman_grafix 02-26-2010 01:20 PM

Yes, thanks Jerry.

Seen Scott at the boat show, sounds like you are going all out on the baja, can't wait to see it.

nick9671 02-26-2010 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3055881)
Does anyone know where I can buy the small indicator lights at?

I have a couple that were out.

Livorsi has them, in the quote given to me they are $4 each....

Couch Racin 02-28-2010 05:03 PM

I went with Autometer. 28 gauges total, $1700

RaggedEdge 02-28-2010 07:51 PM

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Fountain pretty much does it right, everything you need to know right in your face!!!

Back4More 03-01-2010 06:23 PM

Depth?

US1 Fountain 03-01-2010 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 3057817)
Depth?

Mine never worked, so I installed something more usefull there. It's about the only thing not covered by the steering wheel.

mapism 03-02-2010 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3057869)
Mine never worked, so I installed something more usefull there. It's about the only thing not covered by the steering wheel.

The labels don't look like the original ones, unless I'm mistaken?
If you repainted and re-labelled the panel, I'd be interested to hear how you did that exactly. I'm thinking to do the same with mine.

RaggedEdge 03-02-2010 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 3057817)
Depth?



Wondered that myself when I bought it. Odd part is they installed the transducer and ran the wiring when they built the boat, makes you wonder why they didn't just finish it. Probably cost near as much for the fancy little plug as it would have for the actual gauge. Guess Reggie looks at them the same as I do, If you don't have one you will never know you were somewhere you shouldn't have been.

Maybe that's why he keeps raising the X on the boats! :D


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