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Old 04-20-2010, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge
If you're serious about a 38 Lightning there is one listed here on OSO that would be worth checking into. I would put the link up here but don't know how so ........ It's an 04 with 575 SCI's located in Williston, Vermont. Owner's name is Charlie Roff.
I saw that and it's a nice boat, I'm not wanting blower motors to be honest.

Does anyone have details on the 2004 525 boat Legend has?

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Default The 38 & 42 are not comparable

The 38 is a stretched 35. The 42 is its own boat and there really is nothing comparable. Let me give you a few comparisons. We have scaled all three boats. The 38 is only 400 pounds heavier than a 35 while the 42 is 4,000 pounds heavier (12,880 dry with 700's & 6's) than a 38.

While in a poker run last summer I was running a customers 38 700 boat and it started to get really rough. The 38 700 boat runs 113-115MPH while a 42 with 525's runs low 80's. Morale of the story, I could not keep up with the 42 525 boats in -5's, they ran away from me.

If you are on a lake or do not run rough water the staggered 2007 and newer 38's are a blast to drive and run mid 90's with 525's. Even more fun with 700's.

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Originally Posted by eddie
I was looking for a deal on a 42 and found a 38. I was kind of up to speed on the 42 - sliding door, wind shield and bottom changes and I know zero about the 38.

Can you help a guy out?

Same year (2003) & power - boating Lake of the Ozarks. How big of a deal is the 38 v 42?
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Default 4 tanks no more

Four tanks were origonally used for the triples and are great for range and ballast. The 2010 and newer 42's do not have saddle tanks anymore.

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Originally Posted by Team Shogren
The 38 is a stretched 35. The 42 is its own boat and there really is nothing comparable. Let me give you a few comparisons. We have scaled all three boats. The 38 is only 400 pounds heavier than a 35 while the 42 is 4,000 pounds heavier (12,880 dry with 700's & 6's) than a 38.

While in a poker run last summer I was running a customers 38 700 boat and it started to get really rough. The 38 700 boat runs 113-115MPH while a 42 with 525's runs low 80's. Morale of the story, I could not keep up with the 42 525 boats in -5's, they ran away from me.

If you are on a lake or do not run rough water the staggered 2007 and newer 38's are a blast to drive and run mid 90's with 525's. Even more fun with 700's.

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That says a lot.

I have a couple of questions, do the 42's with 525's have any drive issues, seems like a lot of weight for a bravo style drive?

From fountains web site it looks like a 525 42 uses about the same amount of gas as a 35 with 525's, can that be true?

Of course the cult members will tell you they will have the best rough water ride.

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Originally Posted by Team Shogren
The 38 is a stretched 35. The 42 is its own boat and there really is nothing comparable. Let me give you a few comparisons. We have scaled all three boats. The 38 is only 400 pounds heavier than a 35 while the 42 is 4,000 pounds heavier (12,880 dry with 700's & 6's) than a 38.

While in a poker run last summer I was running a customers 38 700 boat and it started to get really rough. The 38 700 boat runs 113-115MPH while a 42 with 525's runs low 80's. Morale of the story, I could not keep up with the 42 525 boats in -5's, they ran away from me.

If you are on a lake or do not run rough water the staggered 2007 and newer 38's are a blast to drive and run mid 90's with 525's. Even more fun with 700's.

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Maybe it was the driver of the 38?

Thanks that's the real life experience I was looking for. Sounds like I'd be better off in a nice 42 then.

Having you guys in the used boat market is killing my game, if you could let a few good deals on 42 go by with out picking them up so fast it would help me out.

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4000 lbs heavier than a 38? Thats 1000lbs for every foot longer. No wonder they cant keep up
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4000 lbs heavier than a 38? Thats 1000lbs for every foot longer. No wonder they cant keep up
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix

From fountains web site it looks like a 525 42 uses about the same amount of gas as a 35 with 525's, can that be true?


Fuel burn is established by Mercury, not the boat builder. It is based on a given engine at a given RPM and expressed in gallons burned per hour. This number would be essentially the same if the engine was in a row boat or a barge. Where the difference comes into play is in how many miles a given hull can cover in the hour at the given RPM. This would be where hull efficiency comes into play, a more efficient hull will travel further.

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Originally Posted by eddie
I saw that and it's a nice boat, I'm not wanting blower motors to be honest.

Does anyone have details on the 2004 525 boat Legend has?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o33307-en.html
The boat at Legend has aprox 400hrs on the motors. Casey says it is clean fresh water boat. I think he told me they have a little room to move on it.
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They better throw in the trailer at 400 hours. Go with a 42 and never look back.

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