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ryan450r 10-08-2010 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3224480)
Been in the biz almost 20 years. Was a dealer. I don't use any books on perf boats. Toomany variables. NADA etc are good for a 20 Sea Scout w/ an outboard or for cruisers when you need to get finance values

So your arguing that these boats aren't worth what were asking and that NADA is yadda, yadda.. but then in the next post you say you don't use the books... :lolhit:

NADA is way off the market with all of their their boat pricing. Unless like you say it's just a small, low value, rec/fish boat. If you can find me a mint performance boat for NADA I will go buy it for CASH now because there would deffinately be profit to be made.

Also, find me a better deal on a mint Fountain like mine and maybe I will have my foot in my mouth. I don't think you'll find one though.

DollaBill 10-08-2010 09:05 AM

I don't really understand your post, but....

I'm just telling you the numbers. I had a problem with NADA about 10 years ago that cost me a sale on a $500,000 boat. I threatened to sue them. We settled and they put me on the pricing advisory board. Yes, the numbers are BS, but the banks use those numbers for financing. The banks are using more "street" numbers for perf boats.

nick9671 10-08-2010 10:26 AM

Well I will make someone a great deal on the boat, not interested in wholeselling it tho....

Potomac Fever 10-08-2010 02:22 PM

"The banks are using more "street" numbers for perf boats."

I have never heard of anything like this ever. Where does the bank get street #s from??

Good luck to you guys selling, I'll say again, the numbers I saw being posted as a values are low. Hopefully someone will recognize the value of your boat and be able to afford it, and make the purchase

Wildman_grafix 10-09-2010 03:51 PM

what is the street value of a bank repo, new 42 lightning with 525's and trailer? Say 2009/2008 model year?

DollaBill 10-09-2010 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Potomac Fever (Post 3226331)
"The banks are using more "street" numbers for perf boats."

I have never heard of anything like this ever. Where does the bank get street #s from??

Good luck to you guys selling, I'll say again, the numbers I saw being posted as a values are low. Hopefully someone will recognize the value of your boat and be able to afford it, and make the purchase

From dealers, brokers, wholesalers and other people who are dealing with them "hands-on". The lenders have taken such a beating that after the years of inflated boats, deals, repo's missing power, identity theft, etc etc you think they are opening a book for numbers when someone wants a loan on a perf boat? The answer is NO. Like it or not.

PARADISE ISLAND 10-09-2010 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3226926)
From dealers, brokers, wholesalers and other people who are dealing with them "hands-on". The lenders have taken such a beating that after the years of inflated boats, deals, repo's missing power, identity theft, etc etc you think they are opening a book for numbers when someone wants a loan on a perf boat? The answer is NO. Like it or not.

Passbook&credit unions are the only deals closing cars are even tough:bsflag:Hope the market rebounds for us toy guys if not so be it:boat:

Potomac Fever 10-11-2010 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3226926)
From dealers, brokers, wholesalers and other people who are dealing with them "hands-on". The lenders have taken such a beating that after the years of inflated boats, deals, repo's missing power, identity theft, etc etc you think they are opening a book for numbers when someone wants a loan on a perf boat? The answer is NO. Like it or not.

I think its more likley than not a bank/lender will open a book, vs the street value approach. Thats my opinion and it differs from yours. And I have no data to prove that, and maybe that happens where you are from, and the price and value of the boats, but that definately has not been my or my friends experience. I'm not hear to argue, and the topic of this thread is 29 Fountain value, and I know of several that have been bought and sold for quite a bit more than 25k. My .02

DollaBill 10-11-2010 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Potomac Fever (Post 3227724)
I think its more likley than not a bank/lender will open a book, vs the street value approach. Thats my opinion and it differs from yours. And I have no data to prove that, and maybe that happens where you are from, and the price and value of the boats, but that definately has not been my or my friends experience. I'm not hear to argue, and the topic of this thread is 29 Fountain value, and I know of several that have been bought and sold for quite a bit more than 25k. My .02

Thats jus the way it's done lately. It's not my opinion, it's just a fact. Thats nationwide. I'm personal friends with many of the guys who run the finance companies. Not trying to argue or hurt the guys boat, but give some information. Even when things were "loose" it was diff with these boats


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