Sent 05 Ex to RF Powerboats
#181
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Update....I spoke with Tyler this morning and he has consulted with some of his peers (Richie Zuhl, Keith Eickert) and there seems to be a consensus, based upon the burn pattern on the tops of the pistons, that the issue is related to a timing issue. Long story short, we are installing new Billet MSD distributers, and replacing the PCM on the Stbd motor just to eliminate any goofy computer glitches. Tyler is sending down a leak down gauge to Lil R and he will do a leak down test on port motor. IF all is good then we will move forward. If not..then I will probably send port motor back for Tyler to look at.
CMI tested the headers and they held 60PSI with no leaks. However, they are 7 yrs old and we are going to replace the Stbd headers with the new Gen X style. We will then send the old Stbd headers to Tyler and he is going to weld AF bungs into each tube so he can read AF on each cylinder..as opposed to a left bank/right bank average taken @ the Tailpipe when he re-dynos the Stbd motor.
Shooting for another visit to RF at the end of this month. Do any of you guys wanna loan me some money?? Or maybe let me live with you?....WE ARE TAPPED!!!
CMI tested the headers and they held 60PSI with no leaks. However, they are 7 yrs old and we are going to replace the Stbd headers with the new Gen X style. We will then send the old Stbd headers to Tyler and he is going to weld AF bungs into each tube so he can read AF on each cylinder..as opposed to a left bank/right bank average taken @ the Tailpipe when he re-dynos the Stbd motor.
Shooting for another visit to RF at the end of this month. Do any of you guys wanna loan me some money?? Or maybe let me live with you?....WE ARE TAPPED!!!

I have had far better success with the stock distributors (yes one let me down this past year but it was 10 years old). Just this year I went with the DUI distributor and they have been flawless thus far but have not stood the test of time, so I will not tell you they are the greatest thing since sliced bread but will say they have already outlasted every MSD HEI distributor I have used (which has been 4 now).
You can Ignore this post (and I will even delete if you ask me too) but I feel that you are setting yourself up for more headache and expense for something I feel offers no gains. please do atleast a little research.
Allen
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From: So. Burl. VT.
Sound's like it's going lean. old rear motor had same problrem, I would look at wiring harness and grounds maybey bad voltage on that motors system? you stated ran fine on dyno so that would lead me to belive boat system related.
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I know in the beggining of this thread that you posted that you normally did nost stuff because off all the self professed experts. I am not trying to be a self professed expert but the MSD HEI distributors have cost many problems, dollars and sleepless nights. The only people I know that have success with these distributors buy 2 pairs and change them every spring and send the used pair back to MSD for repair which is to much trouble for me. Please talk to Tyler about this before you buy these distributors.
I have had far better success with the stock distributors (yes one let me down this past year but it was 10 years old). Just this year I went with the DUI distributor and they have been flawless thus far but have not stood the test of time, so I will not tell you they are the greatest thing since sliced bread but will say they have already outlasted every MSD HEI distributor I have used (which has been 4 now).
You can Ignore this post (and I will even delete if you ask me too) but I feel that you are setting yourself up for more headache and expense for something I feel offers no gains. please do atleast a little research.
Allen
I have had far better success with the stock distributors (yes one let me down this past year but it was 10 years old). Just this year I went with the DUI distributor and they have been flawless thus far but have not stood the test of time, so I will not tell you they are the greatest thing since sliced bread but will say they have already outlasted every MSD HEI distributor I have used (which has been 4 now).
You can Ignore this post (and I will even delete if you ask me too) but I feel that you are setting yourself up for more headache and expense for something I feel offers no gains. please do atleast a little research.
Allen
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From: Sunland, CA
These leaks can be caused by inconsistent heating, particularly across the top of the block and the head, combined with very high cylinder pressures. Getting the temperature consistent is not easy. The German car manufacturers need to do this because the Autobahns allow people to cruise at high speed (high load) for extended periods of time. There are very few non-German cars in the left lane on the autobahn. Ferraris? Vettes? Jaguars? Nope. BMWs, Porsche, Mercedes, Opel, VW, yes. I've seen so many GM V8s blown up on the side of the autobahn its bizarre, considering there are hardly any at all over there.
Over the past several decades of owning power and sail boats, and sometimes running serious yachts for much more wealthy individuals, I've seen that maintenance is about 10% to 20% of new boat cost per year.
But I still expect maintenance to be as on a car or house (a very small percentage of original cost). My expectations do not meet my experience...
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From: Indianapolis, Lake Cumberland
I've always gone with stock Merc and now Ilmor engines so I've never had a custom engine made. Stupid question here: when you pay a custom builder to put together engines like this- and they grenade on the test run- who eats the cost of fixing the engine: the customer, engine builder, or do you split it?
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From: Northern NY
I've always gone with stock Merc and now Ilmor engines so I've never had a custom engine made. Stupid question here: when you pay a custom builder to put together engines like this- and they grenade on the test run- who eats the cost of fixing the engine: the customer, engine builder, or do you split it?
Now that's an interesting question, one that just beggs for an interesting answer.


