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Old 07-27-2011 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by breakitout
You can easily tow a 29 with any newer 1/2 ton truck. Wouldn't even work it hard. anything more then a 1/2 ton for that size/weight of boat is unnecessary unless you already own a larger truck.
How do you figure. Like I said my boat dry is 7k, trailer weighs 2.5k. Thats 9.5k 113 gallons of fuel is about 850lbs, plus another 50lbs for other lubricants boat is now at 10k. Add anchors, ropes, lines, jackets, coolers, etc, boat probably weighs between 10.5-11k on a full tank of fuel. Dont know what 1/2 can safely tow that, and if it can you are on the limits. Hemi is 10,300 or 4 like I like said, standard chevy and ford are both at the 9k to high 9 range. OF course you have the chevy max and eco boost but thats not a standard half ton and your still going to be at its max level for towing. Now if you are going 5-10miles then I would agree with you.
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Old 07-27-2011 | 10:15 AM
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heres a point few people think about,its not about pullig your boat and traylor,its about stopping.my 07 ram is a 1/2ton pick-up,5.7hemi.plenty of power to pull the 27,but whem i bought my 10meter fountain last fall,i found out how well my dodge stoped it.....not well.its all about stopping it guys,think about it.you can get yourself in a bad jam quick.as far as your choise on 27 or 29.go with you can afford.if your like most people,in 3-4yrs you will be looking for a bigger/faster boat.
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Old 07-27-2011 | 11:14 AM
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One thing you are wrong on is towing. Dry weight of my 29 is 7k 800lbs for fuel, 2500 for a steel trailer plus gear puts me way over 10k thats to much for any 1/2 to safely tow. Now 7500 lbs for the 27 is well within limits for just about any half ton these days. New hemi can pull 10.3k I beleive, the ford and chevy are both close to 10k as well. With the chevy max trailering being able to do 10,700lbs. You make some valid points but bumping up to 3/4 ton whether it be diesel or gas is a big cost in intial investment and upkeep. So you can tow safely a 27 with a 1/2 ton.

Everything I was talking about was referring to the single engine 29's not the twin engine 29's. 7K lb is probably correct for the older 29's with BBC, but after ~ 1997, most 29's were single engine boats that weighed 5200 - 5850 lb depending upon specific year (new deck vs old deck). After the deck change, they didn't offer the 29 with twin BBC's, only single or twin 6.2's (those twins are real dogs for performance), although a couple were produced with the blue 377 Scorpion engines. Even a 27 puts you real close on most 1/2 ton trucks towing capacity.
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Old 07-27-2011 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bcfountain
heres a point few people think about,its not about pullig your boat and traylor,its about stopping.my 07 ram is a 1/2ton pick-up,5.7hemi.plenty of power to pull the 27,but whem i bought my 10meter fountain last fall,i found out how well my dodge stoped it.....not well.its all about stopping it guys,think about it.you can get yourself in a bad jam quick.as far as your choise on 27 or 29.go with you can afford.if your like most people,in 3-4yrs you will be looking for a bigger/faster boat.
Bingo,,,,,,,,,, I would much rather have more truck then I need. If you ever get into a accident a lawyer will find out real quick.
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Old 07-27-2011 | 01:26 PM
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If you have a surge trailer ( not electric brakes) It needs a jar to enguage. If you have a 1/2 ton and you want to slow down Just a little.. It will melt your rear brales and the trailer brakes will do nothing. I got a 3/4 ton .. that is the only way to go . Unledd you are 2 miles from the lake My Diesel pussher works great too
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Old 07-27-2011 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bob_t
Everything I was talking about was referring to the single engine 29's not the twin engine 29's. 7K lb is probably correct for the older 29's with BBC, but after ~ 1997, most 29's were single engine boats that weighed 5200 - 5850 lb depending upon specific year (new deck vs old deck). After the deck change, they didn't offer the 29 with twin BBC's, only single or twin 6.2's (those twins are real dogs for performance), although a couple were produced with the blue 377 Scorpion engines. Even a 27 puts you real close on most 1/2 ton trucks towing capacity.
yeah you may be right on that point. I dont know about the 454 being dogs, they arent not FI or502's but mine has still does 72-73 i think if you have the 95ish or better they do a little more. Thats pretty good for a 29 with stock BBC in

My point being and you will agree is that you dont want to get not enough truck. If you start entering the high 20's low 30's boats in ft you better start thinking HD and not half ton. I would trust any half ton to tow up to 8k or so and feel fine with it.

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Old 07-28-2011 | 01:03 AM
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How do you figure. Like I said my boat dry is 7k, trailer weighs 2.5k. Thats 9.5k 113 gallons of fuel is about 850lbs, plus another 50lbs for other lubricants boat is now at 10k. Add anchors, ropes, lines, jackets, coolers, etc, boat probably weighs between 10.5-11k on a full tank of fuel. Dont know what 1/2 can safely tow that, and if it can you are on the limits. Hemi is 10,300 or 4 like I like said, standard chevy and ford are both at the 9k to high 9 range. OF course you have the chevy max and eco boost but thats not a standard half ton and your still going to be at its max level for towing. Now if you are going 5-10miles then I would agree with you.
How water logged is your 29 hull if it weighs 7k? Like Bob said the newer ones with a single BBC do not weigh more then 6k. If you have an aluminum trailer you are not 2.5k either.
2010 F150 Max tow rating when equiped properly= Maximum towing capacity is 11,300 lb.
Most trailers this size have surge brakes, I have towed much larger without having any issue stopping! Do not see what the problem would be here! But do what ya gotta do!
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Old 07-28-2011 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by breakitout
How water logged is your 29 hull if it weighs 7k? Like Bob said the newer ones with a single BBC do not weigh more then 6k. If you have an aluminum trailer you are not 2.5k either.
2010 F150 Max tow rating when equiped properly= Maximum towing capacity is 11,300 lb.
Most trailers this size have surge brakes, I have towed much larger without having any issue stopping! Do not see what the problem would be here! But do what ya gotta do!
Mines a 91 and has twins. Weighs 7k from everything I've seen. Buddy has a 25ft stingray that weighs 5k and I've pulled that and its lighter than mine so I know mine weighs more than 5-6k. My trailer is steel and weighs 2500-2700lbs I forget. I dont know what F150 can pull over 11k safely and by the time you spend the money on an F150 to do it, youd be better off bumping up anyways.
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Old 07-28-2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by soldier4402
Mines a 91 and has twins. Weighs 7k from everything I've seen. Buddy has a 25ft stingray that weighs 5k and I've pulled that and its lighter than mine so I know mine weighs more than 5-6k. My trailer is steel and weighs 2500-2700lbs I forget. I dont know what F150 can pull over 11k safely and by the time you spend the money on an F150 to do it, youd be better off bumping up anyways.

I am pretty sure my 97 29 with twins weighs in around 7k as well. I am going to weigh it and the trailer this Friday. My trailer is Aluminum and only weighs about 1k though. I am weighing it to see if I need to get a bigger trailer (more GVWR capability).

I pull my boat with my 2010 Ram Cummins Crew cab 4x4. I have done some mods to the engine so pulling it is no issue. Stopping power is very good with my truck and this boat/trailer (I have hydraulic disc surge brakes on my rear axles - twin alxe trailer).
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Old 07-28-2011 | 12:40 PM
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I am pretty sure my 97 29 with twins weighs in around 7k as well. I am going to weigh it and the trailer this Friday. My trailer is Aluminum and only weighs about 1k though. I am weighing it to see if I need to get a bigger trailer (more GVWR capability).

I pull my boat with my 2010 Ram Cummins Crew cab 4x4. I have done some mods to the engine so pulling it is no issue. Stopping power is very good with my truck and this boat/trailer (I have hydraulic disc surge brakes on my rear axles - twin alxe trailer).
I think you are right. A single 29 maybe is in the low six range. But I can not beleive that a 29ft boat with twin engines weighs only five . heck the drives and engine combos got to be 1000lbs a peice at least.
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