George, what did you do with your Bravo's? I am pushing 800 h.p a side with my 1:36 bravos with no issues. Drew Marine had mine set up and were spinning 6500 R.P.M with 950 h.p at it. Drew and the Bravo Shop have a few secrets on how to keep these bravos alive while keeping your wallet afloat. Heat is what kills outdrives. I recommend investing in Drew's "COOL SWIRL" drive oil cooler. This drops your drive temp substantially. Until you speak with Rik about getting a set of Arnason's, any bravo style X,XZ,XR will fail when abused.
Just my 2 cents

I have the bravo one drives in my garage, for sale. I plan to build boxes to ship them. I will look into the COOL SWIRL. thanks for the tip.

+1
If you want weight up front to keep your boat level while off plane put a fat sac up front. You pump water in and out as needed, wakeboard boats use them, not sure you will want to carry the extra weight while at speed. Should be a rocket for sure!

I Will remove all the wt. With the new motors +drives. I will see where the rubrail is above the the water line and how she handles and go from there.I thinking about gibson turndowns. With a 1" hole above the water line to vent the tubes and give a little exhaust rumble offplane.

The upgrade list sounds great, enjoy hearing about these projects and can't wait to see it RUN !

Turndowns are a great option for noise, slide them on to run quiet then slip them off to let her sing.

I have twin 800hp@5300 800ft/# at 3600 in my 99 32. still don't know how fast it is because the bravos will fail! Killed one last year at 3000rpm. These are upgraded with 1.25 prop shafts, upgraded verticle shafts big u-joints. Can't put scx's on because they weigh too much.Twin 600's achieving triple digits? not even close especially with added weight in the boat. Oh yeah arneson's only 25k a piece. Would never spend money like this again on a boat not meant for it. If you want to spend money and go faster you are better off buying a different boat.

All the wt up front is comming out. I decided i wanted blue motors. I started out buying a pair of hp500 and run my bravo one's. That did not work out. I did buy two hp500 with HP closer to 600. I bought them. A fresh set of bravo XR's came for sale on oso , bought them. I know that this boat hull was not designed to run 90-100. At times 78 is way two fast with my 502/415. I dont think it would run a 100 with that set up. I hope to cruise @75 and mabey hit 90 every once in a while.

Upgrades
 

Grapeape93, As its said "the faster you go the faster it breaks" goes hand in hand with how people drive there boats. My fountain has been specifically set up for big power from day one on the west coast. Transom cut for high, X dimention, Drives built with the best components of its day from Drew.Turning a 1:36 ratio i cruise at 70(not even working my motors) while my buddies are stressing there stuff out to keep up. My deck has been reinforced with new stringers along with the gunnels having horizental stringers added. My cockpit has been moved 14 inches toward the stern making it a corvette cockpit with an extra long beak. The entire boat has been striped and put back together making it ultamitly "ROCK SOLID". The fiberglass came out prestine, looks like a true race boat. Most fountains have the wnidsheilds in the center on the boat leaving a huge cockpit (half the boat!!) Nothing beats the look of a short cockpit leaving a loong, sleek beak in the sunset. It just looks like its pulling 100 mph on the trailer. All with only 8 HOURS ON THE BOAT!! As many of you know this is 2112's previous fountain. There is not another Fountain out there built to this standared. Drew from "Drew marine" knows this boat personally and calls it the best Fountain built("Bullet Proof") As stated about the time and money invested inorder to go fast I agree with your oppinion. Unless your going in head first with big cubic inches 588,632 etc, best components money can buy, i feel the money spent doing upgrades to only obtain 600 horse is almost a waist.(You don't pay much you don"t get much). Spending thousands to gain 8 or mabe 10 mph doesnt make sense. If you want to go fast bite the bullet and get fresh BIG CUBIC INCHES with big reliable horsepower 750, 800 etc. (THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT) a wise saying my engine builder once told me . With that being said i beleive its better to just run these boats with the factory power and enjoy them. Fountain offers a great hull and with factory power you are going to be much faster than the majority of the boats out there. A far as I am concerned with investing in upgrades its a "GO BIG OR GO HOME" sport.:evilb:

Would still like to see a picture of that boat.

I saw it summer 2012 onieda lke ny. The beak sit way up. No way to look over the bow off plane. Dark blus. Sounds mean.

I have seen your boat, and I agree it looks great. However this is not an apples to oranges thing with what glenn is doing.

Someone lost their azz on your boat. Are you suggesting Glenn take his boat off the water for two years, retool, reengineer, and invest hundreds of thousands of dollars into it just to "go big or go home"?? Weird :lolhit:

I think he is on the right track. He is adding blue engines (will increase his value) His HP is in spec of what the new xrs are rated for. And he should gain 10 mph naturally aspirated. Which will put him in the "top 5" speed wise, vs the other boats that normally frequent the lake he boats on.

Yes, Thank you Glen George. Nothing beats the bark of Stellings big tube dry headers. Although Drew set me up with a couple sets of his shot gun mufflers to keep reversion out of the equation with my radical cams it still sets off a great rumble.:evilb:
My question is how to upload pictures. I am not a big computer guru:eekdrop:

Gotta pay $$$ or email it to someone who has.

Also the 32's have a SMALL cockpit as is, what is your bolsters sitting on top of your back bench if the windshield is moved back that far?

Glen is building a great package that makes a lot of sense.

Should he choose, he will be able to go out and run the boat to its potential without fear of breaking every time he hits the water.

That is what pleasure boating is all about.

jmoore, you hit the nail on the head. With the windsheild pushed back that distance you are limited to 2 passengers. One in the seat next to the driver and the other in the center of the rear bench seat. You have to be a midget in order to fit behind the driver or passenger seat( it is quite tight). We use that as our excuse to deny ride alongs. :lolhit:

Kelly O, I think you may have misunderstood my previous post, I think the improvements GlenGeorge is doing are absolutley beneficial for the style boating we do. A set of 500 are a definite jump from the old black 502 mpi's. I was just elaborating on the different avanues one can take when starting to brainstorm different powerplant upgrades. Its a buyers market in this economy and you can go from mild to wild depending on what fits your boating style best. I apologize if I came off the wrong way.
By the way, If you plan on attending the Cayuga Lake Run this summer keep an eye on the "NEW BLUE 32"!!! I just had state of the art mirrior's installed to keep an eye on the pack.:lolhit:

Good Stuff !

A boating friend once said......" there's those who talk, and there's those who 'do'. Which are you ?"

Finger lakes
 

Very well spoken KELLY O,we do a lot of our boating on cayuga lake. We go to Long Point State launch which in my oppinion is one of the finest launches in NYS. Its deep, clean, plenty of parking, short ride from the driveway, and protected from the lake, easy in, easy out. The lake is clean and most off all there is plenty of water, we cruise the shoreline looking at real estate with no worries of running into 6 inches of water. Used to do the majority of my boating on oneida lake, however that changed immediatly once a friend suggested this launch on cayuga. There is A LOT more navagable water than oneida, and the word is it is A LOT more outdrive friendly :lolhit:
I plan on seeing you at the cove, made it there a few times toward the end of the season. Got stuck waiting on carbs to be shipped back from BIGS PERFORMANCE.Idles great now, Night and day.:evilb:

It is a great launch, is very peaceful there in the late fall.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9wBNK9hXw[/YOUTUBE]

blue 32
 

One of a kind

What type of tabs 280 or 380? Is she stable at 90mph gps?

Our blue 32 project is compleat!!
 

Thanks a lot GLENGEORGE, THE SECRET IS OUT!! Here she is!!:evilb::evilb:
I run the factory 280 tabs and she falls on plan effortlessly. She pulls real hard to 90 and is on rails. I did not take her any more, want to get some hours on before I really stretch her legs. Judging by my stick position at 90mph on gps speedo, we are feeling we are going to break the century mark with ease.:daz:

I think you better purchase some state of the art binoculars if you plan on keepin a eye on Holy Cow! Just sayin.

Glen, blue magic,

I think bullhead here on the board has a friend with a 32 that runs at 100 or so,,,,,,, if I remember. Maybe PM him.

Blue magic, I am looking at those pictures on my phone, what is behind the air intake on the side?

I bet that thing accelerates like a rocket.

Wildman grafix, She pulls like a freight train I could not be happier with the way it turned out! On the sides are new chrome air vents to get even more hot dead air out of the engine bay. One of the things I was most impressed with in the engine bay is the way my headers fit. There is a good 4 inches between my pipes allowing for easy spark plug changes and access to block drains. Lightning, cmi, and other header company in which I have seen in the 32 have an 1/8 inch between the headers. Randy at Stellings did a AWSOME job on these and made me a believer as to why they are number 1 when it comes to performance exhaust. You simply not beat custom made headers,they are a work of art:evilb:

I actually think it runs into the 100 teens!

Blue magic any pictures of the cockpit, this is what I was most curious about!

jmoore1225, I just went threw my files and i do not have a good pic of the cockpit. Just to give you an idiea of what alterations have been done in the cockpit are removal of glove box, new glassed in cup holderand grab handle, entire helm moved back being entirely reglassed along with the windsheild being pushed back to the side air vent. If you closely at any other 32, the end of the windsheild is a good 12 inches foward of that air vent. On mine, my winsheild is butt right to it. I will head into the MANCAVE and take a shot and post it soon. Thanks:daz:

This is what SANTA brought me
 

2 509 engines, 2 XR drives, 2 HP gimbles,

LOOKING GOOD GLENGEORGE! Keep us updated on the progress:evilb:

New props
 

The 509 motors can run up to 5600 rpms @ WOT. Using bravo one's or hydromotive. What pitch should I start with?

Call Hydromotive, they are very helpful, they used to have an exchange program, maybe still do..

My day off work.
 

The interior is new. My XR drives are finished and ready to install. I bought new IMCO external steering and drive showers from teague. I mounted the imco end caps and showers today. I built the A frame to pull the stock motors out. I hope to sell them on OSO. 502/415hp 130 hrs. New EMI risers, dry to the tip and 1" taller and 2" longer than stock. Today UPS droped off 2 cases of oil VR1 20-50, from amazon $57 a case. Next the engines will have new stainless braided hoses as i finish them up to install. I have spring fever.

I bought a set of 32p bravo one's props to start the season

Looks great! Was the wooden gantry scary? It looks scary!

Those engines are sharp, love the spark arrestors

I looked online at pictures of what others have built. (see-pic) Building the a frame was a task. 2x6x12 double header, the rest is 2x6x14. I used bolts for dissemble and storage. I have a chain hoist pully and engine harness. I with post pictures with my engine hanging.

Looks like you got a great project going on Glen George.Cant wait to see some posts on how it runs and the speeds you get.

motors look great. You are doing a ton of work. Not trying to high jack, anyone know how -1's or -2's affect speed and handling on a 32?
Thanx.

I added the cross beams in the second picture. I plan to use it easter weekend.

253
 

253, This is Len from Baldwinsville NY who built your motors. Just checking in. Hope you had a good winter. Currently at BLUEMAGIC
's house. I built BLUEMAGIC
'S power and pics can be seen in previous posts on this page. Talked to DM today on his 42 Fountain. Going to do some trailer service soon. Waiting for the warmer days. Call me when you get a chance. Talk to you soon.