Any 35's out there
 

I'm in the market for a mid 90's 35 lightning preferably with a step and 500hp's. I'm pretty sure I've seen every boat on the market and just haven't found the one yet. Putting this thread out there to see what there is that might not be listed. Earlier 90's flat bottom 35 would be of interest as well. Pm me or post up what u might know of.

Check with Glenn, or Brett at Performance Boat Center in MO, they have some 35's sitting around, and always have a line on others....

35 Lightning
 

What kind of money do you think you will have to spend for a straight bottom 93 Lightning with HP500's. Not trying to get into you're business, just curious. I have one but not sure if i want to part with it. I am at a point where if i sold it i could not replace it so it would take some serious thought.

http://loz.craigslist.org/boa/3564910528.html lookin around and found this , just 454's though ....

nice looking boat though . i think a little high though

60K for a 92 with 54's, 95K invested, put down the :bong:

I'm your huckleberry. Click on the classified ad. Price was set artificially high last fall while I did some work to the boat...now all I've got to do is give her a nice bath and she's ready to go. Price will be lowered shortly. Shoot me a pm or an email mike(at)diagrind.com.

I have put a lot of love into that boat...plus a couple of awesome motors!

Maintained with an open checkbook,,,,stored inside and well taken care of in general.

Cant go wrong with this one.

Sommer, what's the boat run & what RPM's are you turning w/ those 26's?

Boat has seen 85.1. I never really played around with props to the extent that I should have. Ask Obnoxus, I'm most definatley not a guy who is at full throttle more than about once per summer! I was talking to B-Blades a bit at the beginning of the year, and we figured a set of labbed 28s would give me a couple more mph....but when I decided on buying the AT, I never followed through.

I docked next to a guy a couple years ago with a 94 non-step with the same power, and he was getting 87 in perfect conditions...I'm guessing it'd be there or better with the right props being that it has a single step.

Right,,,,Mike is the only guy I know that has bigger bullit proof motors built and doesnt know how fast his boat really is !!!! :lolhit:

In my opinion that boat should tickle 90.

Plus dont forget we stay on our boats and carry half our houses with us LOL

For a real nice straight bottom I might be somewhere around 40 really depends on the boat shoot me a pm with some more info maybe we can talk

I dont think your going to find much of a 35 for $40K....

ditto .

40k is not the top end of my range but sure seems like reasonable money for a older flat bottom boat

Sommerfliesby's boat is really nice. Well cared for, and tastefully upgraded engines and drives.

With some labbed props, light load, the boat should tickle 90.

Maybe a mid 80's 357 or an old Scarab....

I try not to base my assumptions of pricing based off book and market conditions. I look at what it is, what it has, and most important, what it needs. Buying a boat for 40k and having to drop 20-30k in rebuilds, updates,upgrades and repairs isn't as good o a deal as the one for say 50k that's done.

Not saying I wouldn't give better money for a real nice boat that I didn't have to touch but the fact of the matter is that book values and market conditions set the bar for those of us who are average joes that don't have 50k laying around to burn. High end of a 93 35 lightning with 500hp's is about 40k book value that is where the previously stated number came from. I'm not looking to lowball or offend anyone but I also can't see paying more than a boat is worth. It's hard to sell a boat in today's market, I know it took me over a year to sell a 29 that was priced lower and as clean as any I've seen on the market today.

PM sent

X2, has to be priced right in this market or it will sitt for a long time.

Not very many priced right for this market, most are priced on what they think they are worth or what they owe! Oh well, I will wait for a good deal. I think Scott Shogren's article on here says it all!

what does Scott Shogren get for them???

does not look like he is giving them away...just saying..

http://www.pier57.com/web/used/Fount...inois/5375524/

The truth is that the market is FLOODED with used fountains, especially 35 single step. In this poor. market which mr. Shogren just wrote a great article about, that means all performance boat prices are drivin way down and coupled with the fact that there are an abundance of 35's out there that drives the market even lower for that brand or model. Like it or not that is what it is and if you don't have your boat priced just right then you will have it for sale for a long long time. I was able to sell mine in less then a month. Due to the fact it was mint and priced lower then every other sonic in its class.

Well theres your price range... should be takers on a $40K offer since there are so many for sale in the $60-110K range

http://www.denisonyachtsales.com/yac...oat_id=2509566

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...ning-101842728

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...tion-101916737

The 502Mag boat has a less bite you in the ass later factor.

Or offer Scott $45K for his and make him eat his own words.

Nobody is saying to offer 45k for a 2005 executioner twin 496ho. But when there are several that have bin for sale for over a year at 70-80k then that's telling you something. Then you see another for 90k and you say holy sh!t this guy needs a clue.

did you ever think that boats are for sale for a while because people cant afford to buy them and NOT because they are not worth the money????

Are the ones Back4more listed over priced? Remember those are just asking prices.

That's sales. Things are worth what people can and are willing to pay. People don't realize in this economy things are worth less. Shogren just had a beautiful 2005 35 lightning twin 525 listed for 89,500. Yet I just saw a 496 35 ex 2006 for sale for 120000. I think over 100 for any 35 ex is just too much. It seems with fountains as many other brands people tend to overvalue them. I love them, want one real bad just not ready to spend 90000 on a boat yet. If priced right for the economy stuff is usually selling quickly.

It was an 04 35.
Still dont think you can touch any decent single step for under $50K.

Finally someone with common sense.

So is the under 40k ones backformore listed to much?

It sounds to me, that there is a little bitterness about the asking prices of some of these boats you guys are looking at. Is the economy in a bad state, sure. Does that mean that these sellers NEED to sell you their boat at a bargain swap meet price that meets YOUR criteria? Not necessarily.

I agree their are lots of boats overpriced out there. But I think its a little vane of you guys to feel you should state what someone elses boat is worth in your opinion, based on comparables. At the end of the day, its their boat not yours. If you want the boat, make your offer. If they don't take it, don't be pi$$ed off because they didn't meet YOUR spending criteria.

Theres a lot of boat owners that have owned these boats since the economy was good. They paid a good buck for them. Along the way, they have sunk tons of cash into repowers, maintenance, upgrades, etc. So I can see why some of them can't stomach the idea of giving the boat away they have invested so much into. Just because one guy is in a tight financial position and needs to sell that single step 35 well below market value, doesn't mean the guy who wont is an idiot, or has no common sense, if he doesn't follow suit.

So if a late 90's 35 Fountain is worth only 40k, than whats a late 90's 25 outlaw worth? 20K? Because that 35 Fountain was probably twice the cost of a 25 outlaw new. What it sounds like is you guys are strictly looking for the guy who lost his job, on the verge of losing his home, and you wanna scoop up his boat for pennies on the dollar. And they are out there. Just not every boat listed is gonna meet that criteria.

+100....

when I sold my PQ a year ago the asking price was $69.9k had guys offer me 40k because thats what they could afford and that was the credit they had,,,so I asked one guy why are you calling on a boat that asking price is $69.9k if you can only afford $40.0k???
buy the way the boat sold in 3 weeks for $68.k and one guy from Ohio was pi$$ed because he lost out on the deal..

So please dont think ALL sales are a must sell situation..

I agree with you mild in one way. However sales is supply and demand. I'm not really debating any one boat just sales. Right now the supply of sport boats is high and demand is low. In this economy only a select few are looking at luxuries such as sport boats.

I'm a frugal bastard and I believe these boats are worth most of the asking prices just prolly not in this market. I understand people payed a mint for them at one point. I know people who payed triple for their house than I did for mine. Doesn't mean their house is worth that now. As a smart shopper our job is to find the best product at the lowest price. Unless you have buckets of money and don't care.

I personally wouldn't tell anyone what their boat is worth, id only tell them what I'd pay for it. Hahaha

I think mild got it right, but I do wonder.

First on the boats that you guys looking, and think are just a bit over prized have you went and looked at them? Condition means a lot.

Also it would seem to me if you have been looking for years and don't see one that is in the range you want maybe you need to reset your price.

I mean there was a 1999 35 that went for 35k just recently, if that was still more then you think they are worth something is off.

What have you looked at and what do you think they should be? Not the 100k + EX, I think we all would agree that is of of line.

I think 35 for a 99 35 is a deal. I'm not ready to buy one yet. Still just looking as I am enjoying gettin my formula up to snub. Not ready to take on 100k in boat yet. Lol. I just couldn't resist chiming in on this thread. I can find good deals all day long and if I was ready to buy would have prolly bought because a lot of awesome deals are out there. I was merely referencing some of the ones I see that are way off price.

Value is in the eye of the owner and purchaser. What one of us loves and values another hates. I read this and the formula thread and you see the same "topics" on boat value. Prolly in other owners parts also. I hope everyone finds what they are looking for and those who are too picky will usually miss the greatest buy.

I understand, would like to hear from the other guys that are looking also, interesting thread.

That is a great post! I agree 100%

I totally agree on the newer Ex's with 496HO's going for $90s+ is kind of out there...even though this maybe the last of them.
You can find some 42's with 525's for a little more.
The 35 is a popular sized boat. Its big enough for some big lakes and small enough for little lakes, also able to tow with a med sized SUV, and even park in the driveway.
The 35 Scott has with the 500's is not 100% perfect but priced fair my book, and will be gone within a month.

Even with the lowers missing, i think a $110 offer is a good start on this one...
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...ning-101828394