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kreed 03-14-2017 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by 253 (Post 4537337)
approx. 8,000# dry, then add 160 gal. gas, 2 riders, 2 anchors, toolbox, 2 coolers, 50# of misc. stuff you never use and old flat bottom 35's get heavy, but still run very well.

Do you 35 flat bottom guys run Bravo1 props or Hydromotive?

Unlimited jd 03-14-2017 04:31 PM

5.6% slip with 1.36 gears and 6000 rpm.... Good luck

Crude Intentions 03-14-2017 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4537322)
ICU on here ran his 95 step hull across the scales and I think it came in around 8600-8800. That was with bravos.


Remember these 33-35 fountains are fly weight 30 foot boats.

Phil it was 9500ish for the boat.

tman 03-14-2017 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 4537479)
Do you 35 flat bottom guys run Bravo1 props or Hydromotive?

I have a set of both the hydros are a couple miles per hour faster and are fun to drive use mostly for poker runs and the bravos give me a better cruise speed at a lower rpm mine turn out.

flat rate 03-14-2017 06:56 PM

when we raced the konrad fountain of youth it was 9260 lbs hanging on the crane with nothing in it and 30 gallons of fuel in each tank ready to race. that was a 86 10 meter. that boat and my 92 35 prefer hydromotives.

Brandonb_05 03-14-2017 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by 1428turbo (Post 4441908)
110mph.....35 lightning...blown 540s.....1000hp each.....upriver.....hydromotive 28s.

Must have been on the Pamlico

93fountainsig35 03-14-2017 09:50 PM

i cannot wait to see what mine will run once motors are done....im hoping 80mph :cartman:

kreed 03-15-2017 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by tman (Post 4537530)
I have a set of both the hydros are a couple miles per hour faster and are fun to drive use mostly for poker runs and the bravos give me a better cruise speed at a lower rpm mine turn out.

What HP are you running and what size Hydros?

kreed 03-15-2017 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by 93fountainsig35 (Post 4537601)
i cannot wait to see what mine will run once motors are done....im hoping 80mph :cartman:

What are you putting in for engines?

Unlimited jd 03-15-2017 08:39 AM

509's Canfield heads, crane 168811 cams should be 620 or so

kreed 03-15-2017 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4537666)
509's Canfield heads, crane 168811 cams should be 620 or so

Bravo boat? Will definitely run over 80

kreed 03-15-2017 10:22 AM

Mine is a solid roller....244/248 -649/644 on a 111

Unlimited jd 03-15-2017 11:40 AM

Yes braves, will run 80 until a drive breaks...
111 lsa or icl?

I'CE 03-15-2017 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4537666)
509's Canfield heads, crane 168811 cams should be 620 or so









Part Number: 168811 Grind Number: HR-242/372-2S-12 IG

Engine Identification:
Start Yr. End Yr. Make Cyl Description
1996 Up CHEVROLET 8 Good mid range to upper RPM torque, rough idle, performance usage, bracket racing, auto trans w/3500+ converter, marine perf. w/aftermarket dry pipe exhaust systems or tube headers, 3600- 4000 cruise RPM, best for 540+ cu.in. engines, 11.0 to 12.75 compre
Engine Size Configuration
454-502 C.I. V


Valve Setting: Intake - .000 Exhaust - .000 Hot/Cold - HOT


Lift: Intake @Cam 372 @Valve 632 All Lifts are based
on zero lash and theoretical rocker arm ratios.
Exhaust @ Cam 372 @Valve 632
Rocker Arm Ratio 1.70


Cam Timing: TAPPET @ .004
Lift: Opens Closes ADV Duration
Intake 41.0 BTDC 83.0 ABDC 304.0 °
Exhaust 87.0 BBDC 41.0 ATDC 308.0 °


Spring Requirements:
Part Number 99896
Loads Closed 150 LBS @ 1.900 or 1 29/32
Open 414 LBS @ 1.306

Recommended RPM range with matching components
Minimum RPM 2800
Maximum RPM 6200
Valve Float 6800


Cam Timing: TAPPET @.050
Lift: Opens Closes Max Lift Duration
Intake 14.0 BTDC 48.0 ABDC 107 242.0
Exhaust 60.0 BBDC 6.0 ATDC 117 246.0


Remarks:
CRANE 16535-16 LONG TRAVEL HYDRAULIC ROLLER LIFTERS MUST BE USED WITH GREATER THAN .570" LIFT CAMSHAFTS TO PREVENT ALIGNMENT BAR

93fountainsig35 03-15-2017 12:07 PM

What he said:cool:^^^^^

I'CE 03-15-2017 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by 93fountainsig35 (Post 4537735)
What he said:cool:^^^^^

Think jd is asking about Kevin's cam

93fountainsig35 03-15-2017 02:18 PM

Yes my remark was about jds reply to kreeds question on my motors

kreed 03-16-2017 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by unlimited jd (Post 4537727)
yes braves, will run 80 until a drive breaks...
111 lsa or icl?

lsa

253 03-16-2017 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 4537479)
Do you 35 flat bottom guys run Bravo1 props or Hydromotive?

I run 28 Hydro Q4's,, I use Amsoil 75/110 Severe Gear Synthetic gear oil,
she runs 83-85 on gps depending on chop, wind, load etc.
I have run my Bravo 1 drives 9 seasons now without a failure, I just recently refreshed them and the gears/bearing were in great cond.

kreed 03-16-2017 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by 253 (Post 4538000)
I run 28 Hydro Q4's,, I use Amsoil 75/110 Severe Gear Synthetic gear oil,
she runs 83-85 on gps depending on chop, wind, load etc.
I have run my Bravo 1 drives 9 seasons now without a failure, I just recently refreshed them and the gears/bearing were in great cond.

Tell us about your power plants....please...

253 03-17-2017 08:48 AM

540 Merlin3 blocks, Dart Pro1 CNC'd alum. heads, Dart port matched intakes, Eddie Marine Thunder exh.,, MSD ign. w/the black bushing,, 10 qt. oil pans w/ scraper windage trays, H beam rods, JE pistons, Holley 9022 ,800 cfm carbs. dialed in w/ several jet changes, .600/.610 Howards roller cams degreed in, 35 degree total advance.,Champion Racing spark plugs changed at 30 hours,, 8mm plug wires, big oil coolers w/thermostats, 140 degree water thermostat, no circulating water pump just a crossover.
Just the usual maintence stuff to keep her running in top cond.
Bravo1's ,1.50 use Amsoil 75/110 Severe Gear oil., 28 Hydro Q4 props

93fountainsig35 03-17-2017 09:09 AM

Nice!

Pete35Fountain 03-18-2017 08:19 PM

so Hydromotive seems to have an edge for prop of choice...which Hydro specifically?

power is 509's, Merlin cast heads, Edelbrock intakes, Holley 850's...estimated HP is slightly above 500 each. pushing through XR's, 35 Fountain, non staggered flat bottom

253 03-19-2017 09:00 AM

Call Hydromotive tell them what you have so they can figure which is best, also, they have an exchange program if you want to try a couple different props.

kreed 03-20-2017 07:58 AM

Nice power 253 !

My engines are similar. 496CI ,Dart Pro 1 alum heads, Solid rollers, 10.5:1 comp, 1050 Dominators on Dart intakes, CMI headers.They made 625HP... Im hoping for 85MPH...Just bought a set 30P Bravo1 props.

253 03-20-2017 09:23 AM

Nice setup, 30P Bravo1 is equal to 28P Hydromotive, but you need to trim the Bravo's more, and the Hydro's are a sternlifter to help get the heavy rear end lifted a bit for less drag, let me know how the Bravo's work out.,, I will take a guess and say 80-82 on gps.
Mike

MILD THUNDER 03-21-2017 06:53 AM

While not a 35 , but a straight bottom 38 with #4's. I got 96.6 out of it this day. had 150 gallons of fuel on board. 17x28p props. 1.49 ratio. 6200rpm. Twin 800's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWGMAdeKbU&t=2s

excalibur82 03-21-2017 07:41 AM

Dang That is moving!!!!! looking good!!!! I just bought a pair of B&M 250's so I'm hoping for 90 this summer. I was running 75-77 last summer on my flat bottom 35 so lets see what happens.

253 03-21-2017 07:56 AM

Nice, I would like to have a 38 someday.

excalibur82 03-21-2017 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by 253 (Post 4539407)
Nice, I would like to have a 38 someday.

Yea me too ! must be nice to be rich !!! lol

green lightning 03-21-2017 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4539391)
While not a 35 , but a straight bottom 38 with #4's. I got 96.6 out of it this day. had 150 gallons of fuel on board. 17x28p props. 1.49 ratio. 6200rpm. Twin 800's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWGMAdeKbU&t=2s

That is nice mild how many pounds of boost are you seeing at 6200rpm

kreed 03-21-2017 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4539391)
While not a 35 , but a straight bottom 38 with #4's. I got 96.6 out of it this day. had 150 gallons of fuel on board. 17x28p props. 1.49 ratio. 6200rpm. Twin 800's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWGMAdeKbU&t=2s

Joe that boat is humming along pretty damn good !!! Sounds great. Love the race hatch. AA+++

MILD THUNDER 03-21-2017 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by green lightning (Post 4539414)
That is nice mild how many pounds of boost are you seeing at 6200rpm

right about 8psi. Twin 468ci, 420 B&M blowers with chillers, 8:1 static.

F-2 Speedy 03-21-2017 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4539516)
right about 8psi. Twin 468ci, 420 B&M blowers with chillers, 8:1 static.

I just dont know how you get those bravo's to live.....:angry-smiley-038:

MILD THUNDER 03-21-2017 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4539524)
I just dont know how you get those bravo's to live.....:angry-smiley-038:

Who has bravos ? :cartman:

Lol, when i first got the fountain, one of my buddys was cracking jokes , said "when they stop making those drives, 1985" ......being that he owns a 42 with 525efis, and broke several XR's, my only reply could be "yes, but how are those new modern drives working out for you " :)

F-2 Speedy 03-21-2017 07:26 PM

That looked like a LOTO shore line ??

MILD THUNDER 03-21-2017 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4539588)
That looked like a LOTO shore line ??

Yes, yes it was :)

green lightning 03-21-2017 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4539581)
Who has bravos ? :cartman:

Lol, when i first got the fountain, one of my buddys was cracking jokes , said "when they stop making those drives, 1985" ......being that he owns a 42 with 525efis, and broke several XR's, my only reply could be "yes, but how are those new modern drives working out for you " :)

You just have to love any time you can go for a good high speed rip and still have both your props spinning when you are done

excalibur82 11-27-2017 11:09 AM

Put the The 250 b&m blowers on mine Did not change anything else and the best I've seen is 88 Mph at 6 pounds of boost . I just bought intercoolers for it so next year should be alittle faster

RICHARD CUNY 11-28-2017 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by excalibur82 (Post 4596134)
Put the The 250 b&m blowers on mine Did not change anything else and the best I've seen is 88 Mph at 6 pounds of boost . I just bought intercoolers for it so next year should be alittle faster

I think I should just get rid of my 32 ans save you all the trouble.
Rich


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