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Rhythm and Blues 09-18-2016 09:56 AM

Considering going to look at this 40' Lightning
 
Good morning, I'm considering flying out to look at this and have it survyed if I get that warm fuzzy feeling.
Does the Fountain crowd have any unsight into this particular boat or to strait bottom 40' Lightnings in general?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/302054690458?_mwBanner=1

Rattlesnake Jake 09-18-2016 10:04 AM

Need a bigger truck.
 
1/2 ton Might tow it but stopping is another thing..

Rhythm and Blues 09-18-2016 11:46 AM

Hhmm.. I have a diesel crew f350 but yeah the current owner tows it w a 1/2T, scarry..

Flyin-Bryan 09-18-2016 12:02 PM

from the ad.

" Boat has top speed close to 100 mph."


Ah,nope.

Rhythm and Blues 09-18-2016 12:33 PM

Yeah, no.. I agree with you. More along the lines of high 70s, possibly touching 80..
But I digress. All nit picking aside I'd really like some constructive input about the hull itself
and areas of interest/concern etc etc..

Flyin-Bryan 09-18-2016 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Rhythm and Blues (Post 4482498)
Good morning, I'm considering flying out to look at this and have it survyed if I get that warm fuzzy feeling.
Does the Fountain crowd have any unsight into this particular boat or to strait bottom 40' Lightnings in general?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/302054690458?_mwBanner=1


I was pointing out the fact that the boat is being misrepresented,you asked for any insight about the hull,I figured that since I have owned one for 13 years I could at least point that out,be careful and good luck.

Rhythm and Blues 09-18-2016 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Flyin-Bryan (Post 4482556)
I was pointing out the fact that the boat is being misrepresented,you asked for any insight about the hull,I figured that since I have owned one for 13 years I could at least point that out,be careful and good luck.

Good point Brian, thanks.
The broker listed that on ebay. I dunno why they feel the need to embelish the truth, same with the 1/2T pickup statement. Any other insight about the boat?

Flyin-Bryan 09-18-2016 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Rhythm and Blues (Post 4482569)
Good point Brian, thanks.
The broker listed that on ebay. I dunno why they feel the need to embelish the truth, same with the 1/2T pickup statement. Any other insight about the boat?

Bring a phenolic hammer and a moisture meter,most 26 year old boats are wet.

Flyin-Bryan 09-18-2016 04:33 PM

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Rhythm and Blues 09-18-2016 04:39 PM

A structural surveyer I'm not but I can sniff around with some tutelage Brian. Where do they typically develope moisture issues in that hull? Do they have similar transom issues as early TGs or Flat decks like tab mounting bolts in way of stringers? Are they known to crack on the lifting strakes like early Cafes?

flatlanderbill 09-18-2016 05:20 PM

Look for cracks in the strakes below the engine compartment. The older straight bottom founds stress crack there and let water in. Also, as stated above, check for moisture , transom, bulkhead, stringers . Good boats. Are the hours legit?

Rhythm and Blues 09-18-2016 05:24 PM

Thanks Bill, the hours on the power is legit; hull hours I'm not sure of but it appears to be fairly clean for the year.

flatlanderbill 09-18-2016 05:33 PM

if it's a low hours trailered only boat it could be a good find! $40k could be a little strong but who knows .Took me 2+ years to sell my 10 meter and I took a WHOLE lot less than that for a very clean , honest 85mph boat.

Rhythm and Blues 09-18-2016 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by flatlanderbill (Post 4482591)
if it's a low hours trailered only boat it could be a good find! $40k could be a little strong but who knows .Took me 2+ years to sell my 10 meter and I took a WHOLE lot less than that for a very clean , honest 85mph boat.

Well honestly I've been looking since April for a clean Cafe, early TG or 38/40' Ligntning; this boat looks the part but you know how it goes. You cant tell anything until your physically on the boat. The current owner knows the previous owner so I'm trying like hell to get the actual build sheets for the motors.. The improvisational list of internals is great but kinda worth nothing w/out any documentation. Its a total crap shoot on the internsls.. I've got no problem paying for a accredited survey, so if it structurally checks out the only verification I'd really like to see is motor work receipts..

truebluedc 09-19-2016 01:37 AM

I've got a 1988 12 meter and absolutely love the boat! Clean solid boat when I purchased it 4 seasons ago. Powered by twin 509's with B&M blowers (650hp @ 4psi = 75mph), BAM transmissions & Konrad 540HP drives. Had a medium sized soft area on the bulkhead and about an 18" soft area on the starboard outer rear stringer. Replaced the entire bulkhead & both outer and inner stringers with Nidacore. Boat gets up on plain effortlessly, and is great in rivers, Long Island Sound, and the coastal Atlantic. Tons of room in the cabin and easily seats 6 comfortably. Wouldn't even consider using a 1/4 ton pickup to transport it, as boat and trailer are between 5-6 tons loaded. Whatever you pay plan on spending that again when you refresh the boat at some not too distant time [new heads, rebuild the transmissions, new drives, new oil, trans & p/s coolers, wiring, rebuild carbs ... you get the picture!] Better to do it up right once than to constantly be putting bandaids on things!

Rhythm and Blues 09-19-2016 07:37 AM

Thanks trueblue, I'd consider that an endorcement. I'm hoping with 59hrs motor rebuilds are not right around the corner.. Drives and trans were fresh ar that point too..


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