Sorry but the only hate I see being expressed is by you. Actually I like Fountains and I think Reggie was great for the sport. That being said there is no excuse for poor quality with what we pay for these boats. I have been here for many years and there has been many stories of exhaust tips not being sealed properly enough to make people wonder, what the feck? No excuse for poor quality be it Fountain, Powerplay, Scarab, Velocity or any other boat.

I usually don't get involved in this ****e but your post struck me as being so ridiculous I thought maybe you were being sarcastic or facetious. WRONG.

Padraig

From the little I know, many of the factory workers don't know sh!t about water intrusion or the reason for just about anything they do, just "here do this" and that's what they do.

It's not the worker's fault....it's the company's fault. They should have Quality Inspectors & Supervisors watching over details like this.

I rigged for Sonic for a couple years in late 80's early 90's. Cut & drilled 100 + transoms. Every hole was gelcoated and every screw , bolt ,washer was tipped with silicone sealer ( to seal , prevent seizure , vibration proof) . That is what was expected , and thats how we did it. And it was an assembly line ( I think it took 10 days to build a 30' and couple more days for 34'-42'). Quality control had it pretty easy.

Those were the Jay Ross years. Too bad Richard Hewitt bought that company because he wanted the building, and ran the company into the ground. It's never been the same since. Of note, "Sonic" just changed hands again this week. I use quotes, since it's not clear what that means anymore.

A lot of talk about pipe holes not being sealed, what about the gimble cuts, these sit under water all the time, Id think these would be a big contributor for stringer rot.

This all reminds me of a saying from my early years working for companies that I did not understand at the time, " There is no such thing as a bad employee just bad supervisors!". Now as a self employed individual with employee's, I understand the meaning. I don't always agree but I understand! You have to inspect what you expect!

Take a list of the likes you got. A cig guy and a couple others that i had not really seen post and a couple that I have seen. Lurkers. More lurkers should speak up. Me being a paint and body guy. I know what its like to build transportation ( if you will)



. Not everyone can police everything in the building. Things happen. I don't expect you to understand how the business works. But people in the business are reading this and laughing. Cause they are in the business. And they see it the way i do. You might not see it like i do. as the people that like what you said. That's ok. If everyone thought Einstein was a genius, he would not have been one.It was only until later that they understood. ( kinda like my x wife lol ) Just because you don't understand a point of view, does not make you an authority. And there is an excuse for a quality issue. How can you believe that there is not an excuse?

I spent over 30 years in manufacturing, I know about Quality! With your views on quality......I don't think I would bring any vehicle to you.

Forgot to add, what do likes have to do with It? I am not so insecure that I check who all gives me likes and how many posts they have or what brand boats they have. You obviously do.

Padraig

Ok . I understand. But manufacturing what? For Me. I was taught the business from a 61 yo guy when i was 19. He taught me everything he knew for 9 years and then I went on from there. I restored 16 cyl cadillacs repared freight damage on Porsche Audi Mercedes ( for the dealerships on new cars)and was taught that time did not matter all that mattered was doing it right. He was the retired owner of the Best Bodyshop in Minneapolis Minnesota. They even advertised in the wall street journal. Did work for the Rapaports, Bedoors. etc. . I have never been fired from a bodyshop job in my whole 30 year career because I was always great at what I do .. My last 20 years of it. .The owner of every shop had Me do the work on their person cars. Every one of them . And I moved around a bit to finally end up here. I have worked in boat shops as well. Because I like boats.I spent lots of hours on my back under a boat grinding fiberglass. and It's kinda degrading , if you will .. lol. Had a boat all my life . well 40 years now anyway. Now I paint for Corporate North america Yamaha Kawasaki sometimes Honda and Suzuki. well I painted for suzuki for 5 years, and they're azholes. Anyway. I know more about fixing something right than anyone I know, or my customers know. That's why I work for them. And they burn me the feck out sometimes and quality suffers, But they appreciate that I am trying to provide them the best I can. Just like whoever built this guy's boat! So you don't think you would bring your vehicle to me??? That just shows that you do not understand the business. I am not trying to offend you !! Please understand that

Ok just some info this summer a guy brought a 35 into me that he had purchased a year before the last owner painted up the bulkhead wall behind rear seat It was rotted and the entire wall had to be replaced and glassed in properly and gelcoated IT WAS ONLY GELCOATED NO GLASS AT ALL THE ENTIRE WALL GELCOAT OVER PLYWOOD ONLY

You sir are obviously extremely wealthy or incredibly stupid.

Glad you don't build aircraft

3 years ago i took my 92 35 apart expecting a rotted transom because it always leaked. it is solid everywhere we even drilled holes to make sure. sealed up the rubrail joint at the swim platform and engine room paint and new transom assy its dry as a bone and good for another 25 years

LOL....

Just misunderstood :bong:

If the guys knew the place was closing soon I`m sure everyday was a Friday build.

That is complete bull****.

We pay a premium price for what is expected to be premium workmanship. period.

Demand went up, quality went to the toilet, then Reggie filed to protect his new mansion.

I had the same experience with my old Formula but since I wasn't the original owner I can't be sure the company caused this issue. Would I buy another yes but only after a surveyor tests for moisture.. Someone else at a marina working on any bolted items could have done a poor job of resealing just a single screw properly. Mine was stringers on one side and the whole transom. Now if you're the original owner and both exhausts were the source ok blame company.

Shocked to hear this carder! My wife an I looked at 2 ec's a few years ago a nd we were shocked at the poor fit and finish of both of them. Although both boats had been obviously neglected. I recall talking with you at Boyne thunder a few years back and I remember how clean your ec was, my wife still says, " do you remember how nice the one at Boyne was, why can't they all look that nice".

I'm in "the buisness" and don't find it funny at all. Shoddy detail call outs from engineering to poor quality control and low employee moral should not be considered the norm. I am well aware of the culture of the boating industry in the past, and that's just that the past. I'm a naval architect in my 20's and two things hold true on any design that I work on regardless of the builder. I expect the builder to read the drawings, and if they think they have a better way of doing things that we talk about it they don't just go and make the change on their own.

Cutting corners and coping out because you are burnt out or don't give a sh*t wont fly with me or any of the other young people I know in the industry just as it doesn't fly in other industries.