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later 12-03-2003 12:24 PM

ive had two 42 fountains a 90 and a 98 and have never had the stress cracks around the hatches or windshield. the only stress crack i have seen on 42's is in the floor on the left frt by cabin door.

later

Payton 12-04-2003 07:15 AM

Looks good Dennis!
How deep was that hook in that one pic?

Nothing like a new bottom for Christmas, right? (haha)

StrikinLightnin 12-04-2003 09:18 PM


Originally posted by Payton
Looks good Dennis!
How deep was that hook in that one pic?

Nothing like a new bottom for Christmas, right? (haha)

Thanks Mark,
I'd guess at about a 1/16 ????
It's difficult to tell.
You can't say that I didn't start from
the bottom up on this boat!
:p ;)

sgrady 12-05-2003 08:57 AM


Originally posted by StrikinLightnin
Thanks Mark,
I'd guess at about a 1/16 ????
It's difficult to tell.
You can't say that I didn't start from
the bottom up on this boat!
:p ;)

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p :D

GATORONE 12-05-2003 10:50 PM

How do you know they are doing it right. What if the boat doesn't handle as well. It is not as simple as leveling the bottom.

StrikinLightnin 12-06-2003 12:34 AM

GATORONE

I know of other people that have had there
boats done at this shop that are very well pleased
and can testify of increase in performance.
I'm not the first Fountain hull that has been
blueprinted there.
There are two more Fountain's waiting to be
blueprinted after mine is finished.
The guy must be doing something right?
I don't claim to know everything about what is being
done in the process.
Just trying to post something that I thought would
be of interest.

pullmytrigger 12-06-2003 10:23 AM

very interesting, keep it coming:cool:

sgrady 12-06-2003 12:19 PM

Can I come on the trial run ????

StrikinLightnin 12-06-2003 03:38 PM

Scott,

You know your always welcome.....:)

BUT bring your stocking cap,,,,,
I want to run early to see what the props are doing.
Going to have Precision Propeller in Indy blueprint them.

US1 Fountain 12-06-2003 03:58 PM


Originally posted by StrikinLightnin
Going to have Precision Propeller in Indy blueprint them.
Have you ever used them before? I thought about it until HoustonProp offered a special a couple weeks ago. He's blueprinting and all that other high tech chit on my 26's right now. Hopefully gain a bit over the 25's I been running, since they will be perfect. Kinda wondering since I am right at the rev limit at WOT with the 25's.

Also, is 1/16" enough to make a noticable difference on a pleasure boat? I don't know, just asking. Looks great, just knowing it is flat makes it faster to me. ;)

sgrady 12-06-2003 04:41 PM


Originally posted by StrikinLightnin
Scott,

You know your always welcome.....:)

BUT bring your stocking cap,,,,,
I want to run early to see what the props are doing.
Going to have Precision Propeller in Indy blueprint them.

Ok, I will get on the snow suit, we going next week ????:D :D

StrikinLightnin 12-06-2003 05:43 PM

US1,

What I've been told is that any type of wave or
indifference on the surface will act as a suction cup.
The hull on this boat was really pretty straight.:)

StrikinLightnin 12-06-2003 05:45 PM

UHMMM,UMMMM,

I know that you really like boating Scott but.....:p

sgrady 12-06-2003 07:10 PM

Oh, come on, you know youare dying to test it !!!!

US1 Fountain 01-29-2004 08:04 PM

Updates??????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????

StrikinLightnin 01-31-2004 08:38 PM

I know I know:rolleyes:

I stopped over a few times and they were having problems getting a match for the gel.
They finally got the right stuff and sprayed the bottom.
I believe they used Mini Craft for the Gel.
I had concerns about thickness of the gel
and they sprayed and sanded three times with seven
coats applied each time instead of two and seven.
I'll try to get some pics next week.

j winkelman 02-17-2004 06:14 AM

NON STEP
 
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH IT WILL HELP ASFAR AS MPH.I HAVE A 38 FEVER WITH 420'S AND IT RUN 68 IN 3-4S AND 64-65 IN FLAT WATER AND PEOPLE TELL ME THATS KINDA SLOW?

pachangalpina 02-17-2004 07:43 AM

j w, I also have an early 38 Fever and I am seeing the same speeds. I have a factory Bravo boat and newer 502mag efi's 415hp. I also have a noticable hook that I am looking to remove.

j winkelman 02-19-2004 11:27 AM

FLAT BOTTOM
 
I CHECKED THE BOTTOM OF THE BOAT AND IT IS STRAIGHT.IS THERE ANY MPH TO BE GAINED IN BLUEPRINTING THE BOTTOM OF MINE TO MAKE SURE IT IS TOTALY FLAT WITH SHARP EDGES?

StrikinLightnin 02-19-2004 11:38 AM

Re: FLAT BOTTOM
 

Originally posted by j winkelman
I CHECKED THE BOTTOM OF THE BOAT AND IT IS STRAIGHT.IS THERE ANY MPH TO BE GAINED IN BLUEPRINTING THE BOTTOM OF MINE TO MAKE SURE IT IS TOTALY FLAT WITH SHARP EDGES?
Maybe 2-3.......
Are you sure that the entire running surface is straight?

j winkelman 02-19-2004 12:06 PM

NO
 
I CHECK THE BACK 3FT OF THE BOAT ON THE TRAILER SO I DIDN'T CHECK THE CENTER CHIME. WHATS DOES IT DO TO PICK UP THAT MUCH MPH (MINE IS A FLAT BOTTOM 38FT 1989)

candyman35 03-10-2004 07:39 PM

Any updates!

StrikinLightnin 03-12-2004 08:11 PM

Updates Updates.......

The shop had problems finding the correct gel to match.
Anyhooo,, I had an oportunity to get some OT in at work and before ya know it the boat's finished!

I promise that I will crawl under the trailer and take pics of the finished hull.

Everything turned out really GREAT!
When the bottom was finished along with the other gel work the deck was sanded out and the rest of the boat
was done in 3000 grit and bufffed out twice and then waxed.
Better than new!

US1 Fountain 03-12-2004 08:19 PM

You gotta be pumped! Hope you gain some numbers with the work.

My boat has been in the shop since Nov 8th for what should have been a 1 week repair on some gel chips on chines and strakes. As of right now, March 12th, over 4 months later, they still have it! Supposed to be done tommorrow. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Heard that line 3 times already just in the last 2 weeks.

Going 'Postal' may very well be my defense.

10x 03-12-2004 09:57 PM

AINT it great?!?!?! Why do we keep puttin ourselves through this $hit?

StrikinLightnin 03-12-2004 11:01 PM

US1 & 10X

Once you get the boat out on the water somehow you forget about all the s**t that you went through to get there.
Like a lot of shops it takes time to get the job done the way it should be.
As long as the end result makes you happy that's what really counts.

US1 Fountain 03-12-2004 11:18 PM


Originally posted by StrikinLightnin
US1 & 10X


As long as the end result makes you happy that's what really counts.

That's why I am putting up with it. I had him do a boat for me several yrs ago and he did a outstanding job. That's why I returned with this boat. The same guy is doing the work and I demand perfection. On the plus side, he is doing a full buff job at no cost because of the delays.

10x 03-13-2004 11:56 AM

Just jerkin your chain. I really can't say too much. Last winter, I pulled the WHOLE interior, cut out the floor, replaced both fuel tanks, changed the dash and throttles, totally redid the interior and eng hatches, repainted the colors on the exterior of the deck and hull, (what a nightmare that was !!!), not to mention, pulled the engines and drives and went through them.
I think I did enough $hit last winter, to last me the rest of my life !!!
Now, I've replaced the carbs with smaller ones, and in a couple more months I'm replacing the cams with smaller ones also. Just can't seem to leave anything alone.
BTW....Are you guys comin to the COPS season opener at Diversy yacht club on sat 4/3 ?
Frank

StrikinLightnin 03-13-2004 12:07 PM

Frank,

Gotta work 11-7 that weekend.
Seems like every COPS event that comes along I have to work.
:mad:
Oh well it makes the boat payments. ;)
I have my time off scheduled for summer so I can participate in some COPS get togethers.
I really enjoyed the Michigan City Run last Sept.
It was good to meet you.

US1
Come on up and play with us on the Big Lake this summer!

10x 03-13-2004 12:39 PM

Dennis...... same here. I've been tryin to call you, but the # I got from candyman does'nt work. Try me at home, if I'm not there, just leave your #'s and I'll buz you back.
I'll bet your boat turned out beautiful, I seen it about 3 wks ago before it was 100% finished. Looked AWSOME ! I'm suppose to take mine there around the 15th of march just for a few touch ups on the gel. He does GREAT work and he's only about 20 min from where I keep it by Jeffs place (RPM).
Oh almost forgot.....708-579-5434

StrikinLightnin 03-14-2004 12:31 PM


Originally posted by 10x
Dennis...... same here. I've been tryin to call you, but the # I got from candyman does'nt work. Try me at home, if I'm not there, just leave your #'s and I'll buz you back.
I'll bet your boat turned out beautiful, I seen it about 3 wks ago before it was 100% finished. Looked AWSOME ! I'm suppose to take mine there around the 15th of march just for a few touch ups on the gel. He does GREAT work and he's only about 20 min from where I keep it by Jeffs place (RPM).
Oh almost forgot.....708-579-5434

Good talkin' to ya Frank!
Let's have that beach party!;) :D

10x 03-15-2004 12:14 AM

Same here Dennis
Nobody's gotta twist my arm to get me to go to the beach...just tell me when
We should try to do that every weekend (weather permitting)

10x 03-15-2004 12:20 AM

Dennis........We talked about this yesterday...gas prices. Go to the General boating discussion section and look at the thread...find the cheapest gas near you... it should be on the 1st or 2nd page. GREAT link, but I don'tknow how to send it to you. You can find the best price of gas in your area in the last 24 hrs. Amazing, I'm gonna save that link. I think we ALL should.........Frank

Steve_H 12-19-2004 09:48 PM

Re: Bluprinting My Hull and...........
 
any more updates?
how much speed did you gain from the blueprinting?

US1 Fountain 12-19-2004 10:55 PM

Re: Bluprinting My Hull and...........
 
Ah, this has been one of my all time favorite threads. Yeah, what's the results?

StrikinLightnin 12-20-2004 02:03 AM

Re: Bluprinting My Hull and...........
 

Originally Posted by sgrady
Keep us posted looks real nice Dennis:D

Now about those Engines :D

Well....
First time out in July I blew a headgasket and then another a few weeks later.
Was able to get the P-5 hydro's dialed in thanks to Precision Prop in Indy.
The boat was purchased with a speedo that didn't work.
The previuos owner told me that the boat ran 78mph.
The best I could get on GPS in a 3ft chop was 81mph @ 5500rpm.
I did a wrong thing by being too aggressive and taking a lot of steps all at once.
Steps such as going to XR shorties with 5 blade props and the hull blueprinting.
At the season's end I dissasembled both engines to find that the starboard had three pistons with cracked rings and two of the pistons burned.
sgrady - you must have known something that I didn't "about those engines". :snide:
What did I gain?
With blueprinting and going to the XR Sportmaster shorties with 5 bladers,
I have a boat that now has a ride attitude that is very enjoyable to run.
The first season the stern would drag through the water and felt like a lot of hull in the water.
With the changes I have lots of stern lift and also the bow doesn't plow.
The boat runs on top of the water and lands close to level when re-entering off of waves.
Also I notice that steering is more precise and I can run through the rough faster with a feeling of better control.
All attributed to blueprinting? Probably not, but I'm sure that it is part of the recipe.
Hopefully next season with a fresh power upgrade I'll be able to attain the increased speed that I'm looking for.

aTX427 12-20-2004 10:19 PM

Re: Bluprinting My Hull and...........
 
That looks awesome - It should run much better. My 38 lightning is horrible - there is no way they are blueprinted from the factory. Would be worth the extra $$ to do it next time. My 25 Eliminator Daytona was ten time better. Let us know the results.

50boat 01-20-2005 12:47 PM

Re: Bluprinting My Hull and...........
 
hi i got a 96 42 lighting with side buy side 750s and cant pull over 5200 rpm with 30 picth 4 blades gps speed is 90 do you think i have a hook i the hull i have tried 28s from stock hp 500s and only gain 300rpm rev limenter set at 6200rpm

StrikinLightnin 01-20-2005 08:52 PM

Re: Bluprinting My Hull and...........
 

Originally Posted by 50boat
hi i got a 96 42 lighting with side buy side 750s and cant pull over 5200 rpm with 30 picth 4 blades gps speed is 90 do you think i have a hook i the hull i have tried 28s from stock hp 500s and only gain 300rpm rev limenter set at 6200rpm

Only one way to find out.
Get a 6-8' straight edge and check the bottom.
Dennis

Yamaha 225 01-22-2005 12:25 PM

Re: Bluprinting My Hull and...........
 
Hi guys! I have done that blueprinting job myself, and what a hell of tough job... VERY time consuming. The disappointment was big when the boat didn't go any faster at all... I guess the gain must be in setup drive/prop/X-dimention etc. I know the 35 Executioner delivered with 496 HOs have had 1,65:1 ratio drives instead of 1,5:1. They say it goes 5 mph. faster... I guess the 38 Fever cas made in a time when big horse power was more common, and therefor the boat was build for this. Maybe that make them slower with 420s. I don't know. Good that there are someone who does this job on large boats like this. Keep up the good work!!


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