whats different about the ICBM
 

I have a red 89 icbm fever, what makes it different from any other fountain? Is it because it's red?

i may be wrong but i thout the icbm had the extended cockpit.

later

nope the extened cockpit was an option on the 12 Meter.

My question is what makes the "ICBM" different than any other fountain style ? Is it like a trim package option like when you buy a ford truck the lariot package.What is the big hype about the new "ICBM" how is it different from the lightinings or exacutioners.

How about it is an old school marketing term for an updated classic Fountain.

The ICBM is classic Fountain, updated power, but yet value priced as opposed to the Lightning model being the latest & greatest.

I would assume that the ICBM is exactly like the 35 Executioner in terms of styling & pricing, they gave it the classic ICBM name of previous Fountain models of yesteryear.

But I could be wrong, just my guess. Fever Mike will straighten us out.

Fountain has opted to call the 42' Classic the "Executioner". Maybe it's more PC.:confused: The factory did one boat with the ICBM colors before changing the name.
Dan

One thing I noticed was the drivers seat seams to positioned to close to the helm on the 42 X. The 42 Lightning felt more comfortable.

42X

i noticed the tight fit myself, i thought maybe because i had my jacket on and ive put a few pounds on, i might also be used to my 42 which is side by sides and i think they move the seat back a little, all and all a awsome boat at a great price.

later

Later,
Does your 42 feel like there is more leg room. Strikin Lightning has staggerds in his 42 and I don't remember it being that close. When leaning back into the bolster the seat placement did not allow for enough leg extension.
Dan

Candyman,
the difference on the staggereds and triples is they move the seat forward im guessing 2-4 inches. because of the 15-18 inches they lose when moving the rear bench forward. No i cannot strech my legs out but im also 6' 3". But it is very comfortable for me to sit in my boat. I believe that the newer tall decks have the front seats set back simular to my boat. I also want to clarify my above statemant in that i have side by side motors not frt seats, as some of the early 42's had side by side front seats. with side by side motors they set the rear seat back 15-18 inchs makes a huge difference in cockpit. If i had to do over i might order a staggered and give up the cockpit space, because my kids are grown and there is usually just me and the wife.

later

Later,
My boat is the '96 42 that Candyman spoke of.
The next time I get over to the boat I'll measure the
seat from say like the front of the cockpit(under the helm)to the front seat mount or bottom of helm to the
front of the seat's backrest.
If you could measure this space maybe we could compair.
I'll be heading up to Shogren Performance in a few weeks so I'll take my tape measure to compair the new
Executioner.
I've heard that the new 35Executioner has a closer front bolster also.
Maybe Candyman Dan could clarify this??
I like the staggs and have no problems to speak of as far as room in the cockpit.
I don't really think that the front bolsters have been moved forward on mine not to say that the new ones aren't.

strikenlightning, i thought candyman was refering to a newer style 42 with the tall deck. Although i thought i remembered the staggered and triples on the classic decks was closer then the side by sides. I will being see my boat this weekend and will take those measurment. I wasnt saying that there was no room in the staggered boats in the cockpit, i was refering to the side by side had alot of room excpecilly for a cooler and such. The executioner that i was in at the St Louis Boat show diffeniently had both frt seats sitting forward by several inch's, even the wife made the comment that the passager seat was forward, from our boat. If you would also measure the distance from the back of the frt seat to the frt of the seat bottom cushion. what power does your 96 have? and pictures.

later

I was referring to the new 42 Executioner as having the reduced leg room when standing. Sitting down it felt fine. I'm familiar with the different layouts between the side by side's and the staggards. The 42 with staggards has a cockpit almost identical to my 97 35'. I'm not sure if Fountain has changed that configuration with the introduction of the 35 Executioner. I hope to make it up to the dealer this weekend and will take measurements if the 42X is still there. I know the 42 lightning aka as the high deck is more comfortable while standing. I don't think the short windshield would do much in the way of blocking the wind and I still prefer the classic lines.

Dan

Later,
Sure,when I get over to Stinson's shop to put on new drives this week or early next I'll take measurerments.
No problem bro I know you weren't cutting on my staggered setup.:)
I bought the boat last August with 500HP blocks worked by Tylor Crockett:
Brodix heads,cam,830carb,complete MSD.
Dyno'd @ 588hp @5,600rpm
Boat runs an honest 82mph with 27 Q4 hydro's @5400rpm.
Going to xr's with 2" Sportmaster shorties and 5 blade hydro's.
Want to go to a mild blower setup when I tear it down
after the end of this season.

Thanks for the pic Dan!!!

New Buffalo Michigan Sept '03

Nice SL:chimp:

SL's 42 1996 is that the same lines as the new 42X? Older 42's had a lower profile

Downtown42,

Thanks:) ,

I believe mY '96 has the same profile as the X.
You're right the older ones had quite a bit flatter deck.

Got Graphics :D

The 42 X is supposed to have the same deck as earlier 42's. The main difference is the bottom. I wonder If Fountain raised the hull sides some like they did on the 38's a few years ago to gain cabin space.:confused: The 42X's cabin seemed larger than when I was in StrikinLightnin's at the end of the summer. I know it's a huge difference from the 35'. I'll have to measure that also this weekend.
Dan

It was the least I could do after that great day of boating on your boat. I might add it was a very expensive day also. It showed Vicki and I that it may be time to move up.:eek: :D

Dan

It all depends if that hole in the water that you're pouring money into is big enough or not.
;) :D :p

If you throw enough money into it maybe you can plug that hole.:p :D Probably not!!!:D What's Stinson doing for you????

When i ordered my 98, i wanted the classic deck boat not the tall windshield boat i was told that the hull with the big steps was approximately 3"inch taller, and at the time i was back and forth from my 90 40' and a big step tall deck and of course there was a big difference between the two. and after taken delivery of the 98 there seemed to be the difference. if I'm parked next to a pre 98 big step boat with the classic deck i definitely sit taller regardless if it's a step hull or straight.

later

Dan,
I can't tell you what Sean is doing.........I'd have to:p :p

Later,
So is it the freeboard or the deck that's taller on your boat?

Later,
So is it the freeboard or the deck that's taller on your boat?


STR/LGNTN,

it is in the free board.

I was at my boat this last weekend and forgot to measure the seats untill it was all put away. But i was talking to Preston from Raymonds ( Thats were my boats at having some work done ) and after remembering about measuring the distance, we were talking about the distance and he say's the seats in the classic deck staggered and triples are very close to the dash compared to my side by side. I will try to remember to measure in a couple weeks when im back down.

later

ICBM
 

The new ICBM "It Could Be Mine", "Inter Continental Ballistic Missle" is not as different from the new lightning as some may think. If you like the old deck this boat is best value in the performance boat market this year. With staggered 525 and a Lightning bottom this boat will run low 80's all day. What you give up is the new deck and an integrated swim ladder. Not to much for you the consumer gain!!! We have two in stock, there hot and reeady to go!!

42 Executioner
 

The cabin height inside is the same as the 42 Lightning.

later,

Well I was at the shop yesterday working on the boat and I finally remembered to take a measurement or two.
The first measurement is from the vertical fiberglass area under the rear seat (where the speakers are mounted) to the closest bolt on the bottom of the front seat mount bracket on the floor.
I had a distance of 33"
The next was taken at the bottom of the helm station where the strip of upholstry runs along the bottom.
The measurement was taken from the inside of the upholstry strip on the helm station to the front of the bolster's seatback.
I measured 24"
Maybe you could do the same for a comparison:eureka:

i too have been to my boat three are four times and have forgotten to take the measurement, but i have it out of storage so hopefully ill remember. I was planning on going boating this weekend but its looking like cold and rain all weekend so i dont think i'll make it. I will remember (eventually).

later

later

I know how it goes..........
I've been out to the boat countless times and I've now finally remembered to take measurments.
Now if we could also get someone with a new 42X to take the same measurements............
maybe someone with two in stock......