Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > General Discussion > General Boating Discussion
LOTO  Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!! >

LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

Notices
General Boating Discussion

LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

Thread Tools
 
Old 06-06-2005 | 03:53 PM
  #11  
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,647
Likes: 0
From: st. louis,mo.
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

just talked to eric about ggb's. they have there new tooling for the 6" dry slide in and will have a set to us next week to try. I plan on posting all results within 2 weeks. It will be very accurate and no biased opinions, just facts. thanks jim
Buddy OO is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 05:50 PM
  #12  
Mentalpause's Avatar
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,949
Likes: 93
From: IL...XLOTO
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

Guess it turns out to be a good year for me to be between boats at LOTO. This should all be worked out before the new boat gets done
Mentalpause is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 05:52 PM
  #13  
Semper Fi's Avatar
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,276
Likes: 8
From: SoCal
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

Originally Posted by Troutly
Numbers man! Numbers!

Give me a db reading for comparison sake.
I don't have no stinkin numbers..
If I did, that means I got hassled and had a test done.
Semper Fi is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 06:05 PM
  #14  
FOUNTAINATLAST's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,182
Likes: 0
From: Sunny, AZ
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

Originally Posted by Semper Fi
FYI...
I have HP500's and put Gibson exhaust on my boat to quiet it down. They work great and are pretty reasonable ($499.00 a pair) I think they are supposed to work to 1,000HP.
We are dealing with this at Lake Havasu also.
Are they being very strict at Havasu??? We havn't heard much about the problems there compared to LOTO. Are they testing everywhere or just manly the marina???
FOUNTAINATLAST is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 06:25 PM
  #15  
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 400
Likes: 8
From: Wisconsin
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

I think underwater is going to be the trick for new installs. Also, a cross over between the 2 tails is worth a couple db. For bigger hp you need one huge muffler to keep performance loss to a minimum if you are above water at idle with dry tails. I think the combination of underwater, cross tube, and wet tailpipes instead of dry will be the main answer to keep the hp, be legal for sure at idle, and be close to legal if a pass-by test is necessary. I know this won't be popular with the guys that like them loud at the dock and idling around!
Falcon is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 06:32 PM
  #16  
Outdrive1's Avatar
Masher touches my
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,280
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, Az
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

What seems to be the biggest "unfair" part of this whole ordeal is that boats that are already manufactured prior to the enforcement ( I know some of these laws have been on the books a while) of these laws will have an extremely tough time, if not impossible time trying to figure out a solution, such as the 6" dry pipes on some of the high performance boats. They should have some exceptions with the amount of money you've spent to try and accomplish the sound requirements. Kind of like they do with a car that doesn't pass emissions. In Az. if you spend 400 or so and don't pass they give you a waver. Well if you spent a 1000 on mufflers and you still can't pass what more do they expect you to do? I guess they figure we have unlimited budgets to spend on our boats.
Outdrive1 is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 07:29 PM
  #17  
Sean H's Avatar
A to Z
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 9,156
Likes: 2
From: KC/LOTO
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

Originally Posted by Falcon
I think underwater is going to be the trick for new installs. Also, a cross over between the 2 tails is worth a couple db. For bigger hp you need one huge muffler to keep performance loss to a minimum if you are above water at idle with dry tails. I think the combination of underwater, cross tube, and wet tailpipes instead of dry will be the main answer to keep the hp, be legal for sure at idle, and be close to legal if a pass-by test is necessary. I know this won't be popular with the guys that like them loud at the dock and idling around!

not to mention how they would look....
Sean H is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 08:01 PM
  #18  
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,647
Likes: 0
From: st. louis,mo.
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

spoke with gibson, they dont have anything larger than 4.5" so that wont work. I guess the only answer is to spend $5800 on the cmi's like Get r' Done and wait for them, at least they will be close to legal, but the technology to get 6" dry exhaust on 1200hp just does'nt exsist right now, without backflowing the motor so bad and blowing up a 75,000$ motor.
Buddy OO is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 08:04 PM
  #19  
Sean H's Avatar
A to Z
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 9,156
Likes: 2
From: KC/LOTO
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

can nor-tech put 5" pipes on them to start with, the 6 is only there for looks since it is 5" up to the last 20 inches or so.....
Sean H is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-2005 | 08:09 PM
  #20  
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,647
Likes: 0
From: st. louis,mo.
Default Re: LOTO Muffler Challenge- Help us get legal!!

Good question sean, I dont know why they could'nt, your right going from 5 to 6 does'nt help, still would be tough to tone down. are you going to hit the poker run. Call me if you need a ride, will have the newly painted rocket nortech cat, need a good throttle man.
Buddy OO is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.