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Magicfloat 07-05-2005 12:00 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
If I knew how to change the topic of the thread I would,but I think you can only edit the content. Hope I didn't offend anyone. But at least maybe we are raising the awareness a little. It's a dangerous world out there,PWC's and boats( and canoes :p) all have to be watched out for. That was my point.

fund razor 07-05-2005 12:13 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
You didn't say that they were ALL crazy.

I wouldn't worry about it.

If anybody was offended, then they must have included themselves among those you were talking about, instead of ignoring it because the description didn't fit them.

rdp145 07-05-2005 12:20 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by Magicfloat
If I knew how to change the topic of the thread I would,but I think you can only edit the content. Hope I didn't offend anyone. But at least maybe we are raising the awareness a little. It's a dangerous world out there,PWC's and boats( and canoes :p) all have to be watched out for. That was my point.

You don't need to change anything! You had a point and you made it, I'm sometimes a little sarcastic and it's hard for some to tell especially on a computer. I don't believe there's anyone on here that wants to see anyone hurt.

fund razor 07-05-2005 12:26 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by rdp145
I'm sometimes a little sarcastic and it's hard for some to tell especially on a computer.

The secret is the smiley.

You can get away with almost anything that comes in front of a smiley. :D

Try it.

If you say "fund is a pr*ck" then I get mad.

But if you say "fund is a pr*ck :D" then I want to buy you a drink. :D

rdp145 07-05-2005 12:28 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
The secret is the smiley.

You can get away with almost anything that comes in front of a smiley. :D

Try it.

If you say "fund is a pr*ck" then I get mad.

But if you say "fund is a pr*ck :D" then I want to buy you a drink. :D

Fund is a pr*ck
:D

Magicfloat 07-05-2005 12:55 PM

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I love this place :D

bobonthis 07-05-2005 01:55 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
Only death on loto this weekend also,

NEWS RELEASE ID : 050075 BACK
Incident Type : Incident Date :
2 BOAT COLLISION
07/04/2005
Waterway : District : Incident Time :
LAKE OF THE OZARKS 2 6:50:00 PM
Location : Town : County :
2 MILE MARKER-MCCOY BRANCH LAKE OZARK, MO CAMDEN
Summary :
Schroeder advised he and Zimmer was operating PWC's side by side approximately 35' apart with Zimmer in front of Schroeder. A boat was coming into the cove and Zimmer swerved in front of Schroeder and Schroeder's PWC impacted Zimmer.
Boat(s) Involved Listing: Boat Number : 1
Boat Type : Damage Estimate :
Kawasaki PWC Minor
Boat Owner : Owner City/State :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unknown Unknown
Operator Date of Birth : City/State :
Schroeder, Gregory 11/16/1973 Fairway, KS
Boat Number : 2
Boat Type : Damage Estimate :
Kawasaki PWC Extensive
Boat Owner : Owner City/State :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Uniknown Unknown
Operator Date of Birth : City/State :
Zimmer, McCaine 5/7/1974 Arnold, MO

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fatalities: Injured Name : Date of Birth : City/State :
Zimmer, McCaine 5/7/1974 Arnold, MO
Nearest Relative: City/State :
Wife-Kristy Zimmer Arnold, MO
Taken to : Coroner :
Allee-Holman Funeral Home Dr. Jungles
Date Body Recovered : Time Body Recovered : Location :

Recovered by : Depth : Swimmer : Unknown
Floating
Method : Wore PFD : Unknown


BACK

Bill 3 07-05-2005 02:39 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
I think that when someone rides a jet ski for the first few times (more for some) you CAN get into a state of thinking no one is around you (maybe no one was when you started your playing). I have done it and have to keep reminding myself that I am not the only one on the lake. I am not a fan of jet skis, but an occasional ride is fun and refreshing. I think that a lot of people forget the rules of the water and don't pay attention to their surroundings, especially the kids. The best way I have found to avoid hitting the jet skis is to just aim for them, they are always gone by the time I get there :eek: .

What I think is worse are the a$$holes who zig zag pulling their kids tubing in the middle of the busiest part of the lake. Now how stupid is that? If one of the kids fell off, it would be like chumming for sharks.

I am sure there are plenty of people who don't like "those big, noisy, go-fast boats", but I would like to think that most of us work hard for what we have and try and treat others with some consideration. It's not a lot of fun trying to stay out of the way on "amateur weekend" and have fun at the same time.

That's my rant for now.

fund razor 07-05-2005 03:17 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by rdp145
Fund is a pr*ck
:D

LMAO... see? That dam smiley makes everything ok.
:drink:

customryder 07-05-2005 03:24 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
damn water fleas. :mad:

BajaRunner 07-05-2005 03:36 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
fund is a pr*ck :D

can i have my beer now :drink:

Formula Outlaw 07-05-2005 08:03 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
The secret is the smiley.

You can get away with almost anything that comes in front of a smiley. :D

Try it.

If you say "fund is a pr*ck" then I get mad.

But if you say "fund is a pr*ck :D" then I want to buy you a drink. :D


Fund is a "threeprick"...:D :D :D


You owe me three. :D

t500hps 07-05-2005 09:08 PM

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Fund is a pr*ck :D

And I just have to say...I have had to come off plane because of a jetski 5x as often as any other type of boat combined. "All"? Of course not, but drivers licensing for cars is mandatory, but in an environment with no speed limit, no street signs, and no lines on the surface, wouldn't a license be a little MORE important than it is in a car?

Donzi Corleone 07-05-2005 09:44 PM

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Hauling a$$ this weekend offshore in the Gulf doing 90 plus and here they come at me like a flea headed to a dog. Im watching and getting very irritaded that there heading into (towards) my travel path. Now I,m coming off the throttles and trying to fig. what is there intention. They want to race at you and then attemp to turn and run with you as if they even have a chance of staying up. Mean while Im trying to determine if this a novice or just a person with a death wish, all in 10 seconds. I hate them, around here. I guess cause most of them are rentals or people clueless as to comonsence. I dont mean to offend those riders who are knowledgable, just those that are careless. I think there a blast, but you have to be alert all around you at all times. Hell, Im running 90-100 and still looking over both shoulders every 10 sec. to see whats up behind me.

Outdrive1 07-05-2005 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Formula Outlaw
Fund is a "threeprick"...:D :D :D


You owe me three. :D


I don't know Fund but I'll call him a prick if it gets me free beer!!! :D :D

As far a PWCs go, I've been riding since the late eighties, 440,550,650, X2, Superjet, Kawi 750 SXI Pro, GP1200, Assorted Sea Doo's, I love them. I can ride a stand up all day long and twice in Sunday's. I can ride back wards, on the hood, water ski from the side, sub it sooo deep you wont see me for 30 seconds, I can do barrel rolls, almost anything you 've seen on a stand up I can do, that's no BS. I know my level of riding is waaaay more thank the average idiot you see cutting in front of your bow going down the lake. I like to ride during the week when the traffic is limited, or in coves away from people and boats. The worst part about PWCs is that they are entry level for most people, so they've had no experience what so ever on the water. They don't know the rules, the markers (no wake zones, etc.) and they have no clue how fast they go and how fast you can get into trouble. Should 12 or 13 year kids be able to ride them? Probably not, although my kids could ride stand ups when they were about 8 or 9. I would feel confident my teenagers know what they are doing on them and would be safe to themselves and you if you were on the water. Would I let one of their friends ride without supervision? HELL NO..... Do I drink and ride? Never. This is a rough topic because most of the PWC owners really don't have clue but there are a few of us old school riders left that do. You can't put us all in the moron group......... :drink: :drink:

fund razor 07-05-2005 10:00 PM

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Ok... so at this point I must say that while I really like Mcollinstn... everybody else on a ski is suspect. I miss the kind that you had to actually be able to ride.
I remember Havasu in 1984. I rented a ski. First time ever. 30 bucks an hour. (Of course that was pretty much before offshore boats found the Colorado...) It took me 90% of my rental time to stay up on the SOB.

Times have changed.

Anyway... all of this pr*ck calling reminds me of a joke.

What do you call a pr*ck without a boat?

Pr*ck.

What do you call a pr*ck with a boat?

Captain.

This is your captain speaking. :D






Now... just cause I let rdp in on the smiley secret.... doesn't mean that we should start an all out "pr*ckfest." :D

Not that it isn't funny. :D

fund razor 07-05-2005 10:07 PM

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Man... the things that I do to make a new member feel welcome. :D

Ok... so Badkachina is ok, too.


But NO MORE DRINKS JUST FOR CALLING ME A PR*CK.
It's too dam easy. :D

Outdrive1 07-05-2005 10:08 PM

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Thanks Captain.......... :drink: :drink: :drink:

t500hps 07-06-2005 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fund razor
.......................
What do you call a pr*ck with a boat?

Captain.

This is your captain speaking. :D
.............................

Would you boat need the ability to float to be called "Captain"? If it doesn't, does that just make you a "Pr*ck" :eek: :D
Ok...that was a little too low! I guess I owe you a drink now. :drink:

Scott 07-06-2005 07:57 AM

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[QUOTE=fund razor]Ok... so at this point I must say that while I really like Mcollinstn


What ever happened to this guy?

rdp145 07-06-2005 08:04 AM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
Man... the things that I do to make a new member feel welcome. :D

Ok... so Badkachina is ok, too.


But NO MORE DRINKS JUST FOR CALLING ME A PR*CK.
It's too dam easy. :D

since I doubt I will ever see my drink will you just send the money?
:D

fund razor 07-06-2005 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott

What ever happened to this guy?


Hi Scott,

He's ok. Maybe you could say better than ever? We have stayed in touch fairly regularly. He is very busy with a lot of stuff going on in his life. I don't want to mess with his privacy. But let me just say that he is not in trouble or anything. Just a lot going on.

He has a bad azz Jet Ski of some kind. Goes like 85 which I understand is about the world record for a stock ski. (I am no expert... but he told me once.)

Great guy and a good friend. I look forward to his return to OSO sometime.

Speaking of great guys... I look forward to being able to hang with you guys sometime this summer. :D

fund razor 07-06-2005 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by t500hps
Would you boat need the ability to float to be called "Captain"? If it doesn't, does that just make you a "Pr*ck" :eek: :D
Ok...that was a little too low! I guess I owe you a drink now. :drink:

OUCH!! :D
LOL
The parts are in today. Boat will be back in the water probably next week.

BajaRunner 07-06-2005 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fund razor
OUCH!! :D
LOL
The parts are in today. Boat will be back in the water probably next week.

ok too old :D :evilb:

fund razor 07-06-2005 09:13 AM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by rdp145
since I doubt I will ever see my drink will you just send the money?
:D


We have now come full circle.
You didn't read slow enough.

I said "want to buy you a drink."

I did not say "I will buy you a drink."

I better put a smiley in here. :D

But after all this I would be happy to buy you a drink.
But not the rest of these pr*cks. uh-oh. :D there.

No cash value. Gotta meet in person. How far are you from Lake Erie?

I'm glad that Magic thought this whole deal was funny... because I hijacked the crap out of this thread. Sorry. :D

fund razor 07-06-2005 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BajaRunner
ok too old :D :evilb:

Oh man... out of the water for a few weeks and I'm too old.

You guys are brutal.

But there was a smiley..... :D

Scott 07-06-2005 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fund razor
Hi Scott,

He's ok. Maybe you could say better than ever? We have stayed in touch fairly regularly. He is very busy with a lot of stuff going on in his life. I don't want to mess with his privacy. But let me just say that he is not in trouble or anything. Just a lot going on.

He has a bad azz Jet Ski of some kind. Goes like 85 which I understand is about the world record for a stock ski. (I am no expert... but he told me once.)

Great guy and a good friend. I look forward to his return to OSO sometime.

Speaking of great guys... I look forward to being able to hang with you guys sometime this summer. :D


Sucking up will NOT get you beers :drink:

Every now and then a guy posts a lot and then just disappears into thin air and it makes me wonder "hey what ever happened to that guy" I understand the too busy part it is hard to get my work done when I'm typing on here. :cool:



Adding to the thread I do own a Ski and consider myself careful and courteous. I attribute this to owning a larger boat and always checking my surroundings!

BajaRunner 07-06-2005 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fund razor
Oh man... out of the water for a few weeks and I'm too old.

You guys are brutal.

But there was a smiley..... :D

What was wrong with your boat? The transom right?

fund razor 07-06-2005 09:55 AM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by Scott
Sucking up will NOT get you beers :drink:

You are one of the few people on here that I am actually indebted to. YOU I owe several beers. :D

fund razor 07-06-2005 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BajaRunner
What was wrong with your boat? The transom right?

Yeah... small leak (I don't like leaks) so I took it to the dealer. (I do most of my own work... but...)

The dealer said the transom was bad when he couldn't pin it down.

An OSO member took the boat and found a leak at the Y-pipe fiiting and is taking care of it.

The transom is 18 years old.... but not exactly rotted out.

I didn't think it was... I had the port side unrigged last year and the cutout looked really good.

t500hps 07-06-2005 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fund razor
Yeah... small leak (I don't like leaks) so I took it to the dealer. (I do most of my own work... but...)

The dealer said the transom was bad when he couldn't pin it down.

An OSO member took the boat and found a leak at the Y-pipe fiiting and is taking care of it.

The transom is 18 years old.... but not exactly rotted out.

I didn't think it was... I had the port side unrigged last year and the cutout looked really good.

I have been out of town (and Internet access) for a week and missed this bit of news. Glad to hear it was a small problem compared to what you first expected.
good luck ..uhm.........Captain

lakepop 07-06-2005 11:23 AM

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speed bumps

Lucididee 07-06-2005 01:06 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
The bottom line..........there are more PWCs out there than ever....they run in the center of the channels which are beyond dangerous....most of them the do not respect the no wake zones. If you cannot drive a car legally you should not be driving a PWC unless accompanied by an adult. Just like there are laws on the road there are laws on the water. People would learn very quick if they received points on the DLs or could have it revoked.

Just like anything else, it just sucks that powerboat owners get shunned the most because they are fast and loud. And we are not as reckless as others think we are.

Kidnova 07-06-2005 07:19 PM

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We have issues of some sort with jet skiers just about every time we get out on the water. Worst is when they head right towards us when were haul'n azz. Never know which way they're gonna go, so we slow down and sometimes change course to avoid killing one of the azz holes. Some of them are true idiots. Not all kids either. Many of them look like they're in their 40's. Also had a couple of issues with cruisers this summer. Two have crossed the channel right in front of us. Probably drunks.

INHO go faster's are by far the safest people out on the lake. Only once have I seen a Hi Perf boater do something that may have endangered someone else on the water. Once in about 10 years of boating. Yet we get bi%^ched about most of any other boater type out there....wierd

Donzi Corleone 07-06-2005 07:26 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
I agree, we have to be good or you don't last long in this sport.

jeepmullet 08-07-2005 09:47 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
That's funny, on lake of the ozarks I see just as many powerboats which refuse to yield the right of way and who think they own the lake than PWC's. I'm a PWC'er that grew up with a mastercraft ski boat and thus hated pwcs until I got one. I practice very safe boating. :cool:

bobonthis 08-07-2005 09:51 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 
Your right that is funny because I live at the busiest part of the lake and I can't count the amount of pwc's that get pulled over for going full bore though the no wake zone, don't see hardly any boats get pulled over. :rolleyes:

jeepmullet 08-07-2005 09:52 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
He has a bad azz Jet Ski of some kind. Goes like 85 which I understand is about the world record for a stock ski. (I am no expert... but he told me once.)

Hey this isn't a flame or anything... but 85 is 2.5mph off the world record for any ski. www.rivaracing.com yamaha GPR 1200 hold's the world record at 87.5 mph, and It took them ~40k to get there.

The fastest stock ski right now is a 2004-2005 Seadoo RXP. It is a two seater, 4 stroke, 1500cc, supercharged and intercooled. It tops out at 67-68mph tracked by a heartbreaker. Highly modified ones running ported heads, piggback fuel controllers, upgraded injectors (among other mods) have run the low 80's.

jeepmullet 08-07-2005 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Medicine
Yeah I hate them too. They are so cheap that every scumbag can afford one to get on the lake. Yesterday one passed with 5 ft from my boat while I was anchored,it splashed my boat and almost ran over some swimmers, while running at full speed inside the 200 ft markers. While I was running I had to constantly dodge them. They need to be required to take a boaters safety course before they are allow on the water, or they could have a open season on them. :evilb:

:eek: before THEY are allowed on the water? did you take one before you got out on the water?

jeepmullet 08-07-2005 09:55 PM

Re: PWC Riders are crazy
 

Originally Posted by rastaboatin
Your right that is funny because I live at the busiest part of the lake and I can't count the amount of pwc's that get pulled over for going full bore though the no wake zone, don't see hardly any boats get pulled over. :rolleyes:

lol, depending on where on LOTO you are, that's true. Officer Forsythe seems to be partial to pulling over pwc's doing anything and boats seen leaving a bar.


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