39' Conquest race boat catamaran
 

I just saw this boat online for sale, but it is in france.... how about a history lesson
Ernie

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some more pics

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some more

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and this is all of them

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It was called Euromanche Rocky, it had lambo's with 5's. It was painted darker colors last time I saw it, I can dig ap a pic maybe. It came to KW one year, maybe 87 to race the worlds. Ithink it is a 35' thought, clone of Jesse James.

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your so smart, your my hero.....

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least I am not a dumb ass like you...........

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how is your punk ****.......

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1. It is a 39....not a Jesse James clone...in fact it is a year older than the 35 JJ. It belonged to Jean Paul Fruitier.... We sold it to him and his buddy Didier Pironi.... The Ferrari Formula One driver from France.... It is actually a larger clone of the "White Heat" Cat we built in '84

2. It raced at KW twice I think...but campaigned mostly in Europe...... It was more lightly built than our later boats and had some damage in a couple of very rough events in the Med.

It was rigged here in NJ....and the v-12 Lambos were shipped to us in 1985.....The first pair to make it over here unescorted. Those are the engines out of The Lamborghini off road SUV....not the sportscar.

T2x

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I'd say that sums it up :D

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Thanks for the info guys...
now I have some questions on another boat... it's a COBRA... I know they aren't skaters, but I might can afford one of these...
I want an 80mph boat that will be able to run on the gulf coast conditions semi comfortalby. I want something that will run, but needs a lot of TLC.

what is the history on this one?

Ernie

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I know I owe you an email. I will get that out in the next day or so. Been too swamped to even sleep.

Good to see you and Darren at NYC.

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T2x - how does/did the Conquest compare to the Skaters in terms of performance - pro's and con's.

Also, where did the Cobra come from? Is it a knock-off or an original?

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If we built the Conquests with Peter's materials.......... you'd have a war for the ages.......

Peter's boats and ours had very similar proportions.

I always believed....and still do...that the single step cat is fundamentally faster than the twin step designs..... We did both and our tests confirmed this... We also believed in pad bottom sponsons....for the same reasons.

Peter uses primarily multi step ...non pad designs..... and has done very well.

But we were not exactly chopped liver either. The truth is Mark Lavin's death took me out of the game..... and years later I realised that Mark would have wanted us to continue..but I was too devastated to see it at the time.

We'll probably never see a heads up confrontation Adams/Linder/Luhrs Vs Skater....but it's fun to speculate.
Peter has done a magnificent job with the torch he was passed....and I can't think of a more worthy successor.

T2x


P.S...... buy a Skater....I did

P.S.S. The Cobra question isn't worth answering

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Sure we won't... if you say so! :eek: :evilb: :D

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mmmmm LM002, what a H2 wishes it was.
someday....

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The Lambos are great engines. They have a very distinct sound and have lots of torque. Now, if you can find someone in this country to work on them, you let me know.

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I just saw this boat here on line. Is there any more info on it like pros and cons??

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OK, you believe this, BUT, why does EVERYONE put so many steps into there (more is better?) designs? If it "is" or "was" better, why do we NOT see it?

Not a challenging question, just an observational question.

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Harry Schoell Patented a single step DDC hull and has sued companies that have copied that design, rightfully so. Some companies use steps to add rocker. Some are just a different design. Some just want to try something different. Some boats are larger and need more then one. There are still plenty of single step boats being made.
Steps are also used for marketing. "Mine has more so it's better" etc.

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And here's how she looks after Ray Jenick bought her and did a mechanical makeover. This shot was take a few weeks ago in St Clair during the OPA/OSS races.

Look for her running in Great Lake Poker Runs. Maybe even Cumberland.

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I see that a few people know a bit about this boat. Can any tell me who/what company/person made the hull? also what is the hull made out of?.One more thing any more info about wrecks or motor stuff and should I stay away from this boat or is a "good deal" Any info woudl be helpfull. Thanks in avanced Jim

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Jay Mullers cobra always ran great in CClass and P1

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This is a piece of history - winner of the Cowes Torquay Cowes race back in the 80's!! The victory was dedicated to Didier Pironi and crew who had perished a week earlier at the annual Needles Trophy race out of Poole. Pironi had raced in this cat a year earlier.

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Way back when, about the time of Noah, a company called Conquest was formed by 3 old salty dogs - Adams, Linder and Luhrs. They built the boat and many like it. They went on to win everything (racing against outrigger canoes at the beginning of time kinda gave them the advantage - :evilb: ). Plus, they used a combination of wood and epoxy to build these machines, which was WAY AHEAD of its time. Alas, all good things come to an end. Unfortunately, with the tragic and untimely death of a member of the Conquest team/family, the company stopped manufacturing boats. :( That is what T2x eluded to in his earlier post.

In its short existence, it pushed the enveloped and really started the big catamaran dominance we see today. In that way, the company and its principles left an indelible mark on the industry and the sport...that survives after thousands of years! :p

As far as this particular boat is concerned, not sure if it is a good deal. Perhaps one of the builders will chime in and let you know.

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:eek:

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[QUOTE=Miller]
In its short existence, it pushed the enveloped and really started the big catamaran dominance we see today. In that way, the company and its principles left an indelible mark on the industry and the sport...that survives after thousands of years! :p
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Well thanks for the history lesson. I guess i will have to travel out to MI and take a look first hand. If I understood you correctly this boat was cutting edge stuff back in the day.My plans if I do buy it would just be a boat to blow off some steam once in a blue moon up and down in the LI sound.Thanks for the info.

PS can one of the builders chime in

Thanks again Jim

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[QUOTE=jim8860]One of the three mentioned by Mr. Miller lives on Long Island and another frequents a race shop out there just about every Saturday. I bet if you are nice you could get alot of ggod info out of these for crew members of the Race Team NOAH'S ARK. They found a very secret weapon in not loading all the components in 2 by 2.

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I thought Clayton was in 2 weeks Philip? I was planning on going. :(

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I would like to thank all the info so far. I guess I am off to MI and try to bring this boat back to NY.Once again I hate to beat a dead horse but any more history whould be great ful. Thanks and hope to meet up with you guys Jim

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Two things...a lot of the credit that Miller gives to us should go to Cougar...as they were very instrumental in creating the offshore cat....We simply moved the bar....

As to Jim8860's question......

We built it.

If you buy it

We'd be thrilled to help in the resoration.

The original "hands" are still around.

T2x

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Sweet:) Thanks for the offer. If you can please e-mail me your contact info to [email protected] Thanks a mill Jim

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T2X any clayton Pics???

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http://www.vintageraceboatshop.com/C...2006Photos.htm

Your wish is my command...... well...... actually.............. Kim's wish is my command...... :p

Enjoy the pics and thanks for dinner on Saturday night.

T2x

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T2X,, thank you for the Clayton link,, I know Kim has more juice then me,, she is much better looking, and smarter then me,,,,having dinner with you is always a pleasure,, it really is..

Philip

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One step is plenty regardless of size......more steps simply confuses the water flow... But I still only like steps on cats.

and pads on vees. :D

T2x

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This boat was up for sale in France for ages they were asking around $30,000 for it with spare engines ect.
From want I remember its a plywood boat and it stood outside for a long time!.

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The boat is Akoume plywood/fibreglass composite.....and has as much glass in it per square foot as a Shadow or Chris Cat.....

The wood is sandwiched between the glass layers.

This construction is as strong as anything ever produced.

T2x

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Same system has been used since the 50´s in sailboats and yes the structural rigidity is more than up to par with any fiberglass boat.. Carbon and Kevlar came into picture in the early 60´s in sailboats mostly the Meter rule racers , why one might ask?
Because of the money involved and usually those building methods have spun off airplanes...remember the WW2 Mosquito P-38 was a cold laminated airplane like Hawker Hurricane.

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Great Link Rich. some incredible machinery there, thanks :cool:


i just saw the blue and white Lambo powered cat at Sparkys shop here in Michigan. it was getting some TLC and some mods to the cockpit i believe. boat is looking great, its in fantastic shape and should be ready for many more years of use. i really get a kick out of seeing the offshore classics being so well kept.