Cat vs. V
 

In the 30' range how much of a difference in ride. Normal water, and rough water. 30 Motion,30 Spectre, 30 AMT, all with outboards. Deep V would be any Mfg, Baja,Pantara, with Twin stern drives.

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I would think if your boating in 3+ foot waves you would most likely like the ride of the V. Also the cabin room. I had way to much fun in my cat but I always envied V's with the cabin space. The cat handled like a sports car when passengers would allow.

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tantrum has a 30 AMT. never been in it but i know it flies. if you want cabin go with a v like fasterdamitt said. for speed go with the cat.

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I would much rather be in a V in 3' or bigger water.

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how well would a cat turn in 4-6 steep high frequency lake erie waves?

like when your perpendicular to them and get cought in the trough

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In my 26' American Offshore, it would be a slow wet turn. In two footers it would jam!

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Wow....Dreamer...you know a big word...I am impressed...

...sorry..could not resist.. ;)

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I had a 30 Eliminator Daytona sold it and bought a 30 Cig. boath boats have been great. But the difference in speed is driving me to go back to a cat. I wen't from doing 130+ to 80+. I enjoy every ride on the Cig. it's just not the same.

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Well aware of the difference's in the cabin space and speed. Just curious if you would prefer doing 80 in a CAT or V moderate to rough water.

I own a 358 Sonic now and believe me that when the water kicks up it's no fun banging around at 50 to 60 MPH on a normal afternoon on Lake St. Clair.

The reason I would down size is because I trailer my boat and the 358 is getting just too large for the wife to help out. We can handle a 30 footer.

I still like going fast but, I don't want to sacrafice too much speed.

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its ok

since youve been behaving for a good year now ill let you off your phuctard probation

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....Thanks Warden..

p.s...If I ever go to prison I want a female Jewish Parole officer...they never let you finish a sentence... :D

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I own a 26ft eliminator cat,i boat with alot of guys who have v bottoms in the same size range, I personally prefer a cat when speed is a issue in rough water
...just my 2 cents

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rough water being what? 2'? 3'? 4'?...

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3 footers mostly, some 4s, depending on which way your going,sideway rollers can get scary in a cat , i try to avoid them, a friend of mine hit a 3ft side roller in a 27ft velocity v bottom at 75mph,when the boat landed it hooked hard left and ejected him and his wife, they both were seriously injured

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They all can be dangerous if not driven within limitation of boat. at lower speeds up to 70mph the v bottom typically will be better ride, and safer if you tuck drives andd use a little tab, when you start trying to run hard in a v bottom boat becomes very unstable. In big waves and mixed up wash a cat with good beam and at speed high enough to get air under it will go right over the waves . At 100 mph the cat is where I would rather be, more comfortable and safer.

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I prefer a cat in 3-4's in confused water over the V. Softer ride but you have to be running 50-60 mph or you'll be beat up. I went from 38 Scarab with 500's to 30 Motion with outboards. My wife could drive with no problem in the cat and has a bad back.

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the spectre w/300's will do great on st.clair! u will be very amazed how well it's going to preform in those conditions!

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I too own a 26 eliminator daytona and I was at lake of ozarks a couple of weekends ago in 4 foot chop and it beat us to death! The v bottoms were passing us by. I still will never own a v bottom again after having a cat.

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Did it get smoother as you went faster or just get rediculous?

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Drag-N-Ass,What's up? I got a 03 28 Skater w/300X's, runs 115gps. 40 hrs,new warranty,I'll take that 358 in trade..what year is it? Haven't talked to you in a while, how's the wife? Doing the Cigarette/Fountain thing in Ohio....Call me, my guy already called and said (put it together) with you.That 28' Skater will eat up Lk. St. Clair, but you gotta drive it in bigger water.......call me.........I'll fill you in!!!!!!! Marc 269-208-5321 cell 866-412-2628 shop.

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[QUOTE=ECeptor]Did it get smoother as you went faster or just get rediculous?[/QUOTE I could not get going fast. Kept launching and stuffing.

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[QUOTE=gsmith9898]
I was wonder how a Daytona 25 would do in the Channel. A guy here at work is selling his Scarab 28' and getting a 35-38'er so he can run the channel on busy weekends. He said even his 28'er is too rough at times.

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there was a 32 spectre on loto a few months back that punched it while in the washing machine and it ended up one dead. When in doubt, slow down.

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you might want to recheck some of those facts....

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sorry, it was a 36 spectre.

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if your not experienced driver you should not own a cat or drive any boats near triple digits.

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too many. That is why I say if you don't see well than don't drive at night and when it dought, slow down. Brakes don't work well on boat and if your driving a cat that is packing some air you well coast a LONG way.

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i was referring more to him"punching it"... were you there? i be interested in how he punched it and tried to grab chris at the same time..? i am not here to debate what carl did or did not do, but he had plenty of experience in high speed cats and knew how they reacted, that being said though, boats traveling at high rates of speed are more suspectible to accidents... especially in rough water.

and as art said, chop the throttles in a cat at high speed in rough water and hang on... been there, done that...learned my lesson... :eek:

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All I was saying is that the mentality of when in doubt" PUNCH IT" is not something ( I ) think you should do when you fill in doubt. If I have to chose between cutting the throttle back or run over the boat that has turned in front of me, I will take my chances and pull the sticks back. I'm a insurance adjuster dealing with boat accidents and when I take statements there is very seldom that I don't hear the words "I thought". At triple digits things happen too fast. Each to there own but I don't take those chances. When I'm at grandlake or loto or any other lake I wear my life line and look for ideal conditions before I open up for any serious speed. If the conditions are not there than I cruise around and enjoy the lake.

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i think art was refering to punching it when it doubt of the water conditions, always keep the tips of the sponsons up.... i don't think he meant when it doubt of what to do, punch it... the best thing to do is the right thing, if you already have a gut reaction to do one thing in all circumstances, then you will have problems eventually, even if pulling back is your natural reaction.... what if somebody is coming up your stern at a high rate of speed? are you gonna pull it back? like you said, people need to know what to do and how to make their boat do it.... but even more importantly, you have to do it without thinking... and that is true if you are doing 50 or 150.... i think we agree on this, i was just taking exception to you throwing what happend with carl into this topic on which boat handles the water the best... you can have an accident in any kind of boat at any speed...

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I always thought that a cat in the 25-30' range would be much better in the 2-3' slop but a V would be better in the 3-6' rollers? I just can't see a cat(of that size) flying and "slicing" through the next big wave when you're in the rollers. Am I wrong?

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Get in the trough and run like hell. :D I'd take a cat over a V any day of the week.

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75% of the guys i boat with have a v in the 25 to 30 ft range , and none can keep up with me in my 26 ft cat in any conditions

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I don't think you can compare the ride in a cat versus a v in ruff water. The cat don't start coming alive till you have a little head wind and a 2 foot chop. Than it is hang on and enjoy the ride!

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I have a 300 Eliminator Eagle and a friend has\had a 30 Daytona. We ran many times at Lake Powell. The only time the V excelled was when we were in 4'-5'+ wind induced rollers. The V would "slice" through. No way to get that cat "on top" of that water. I am not saying all cats perform this way, this is just what we found with Eliminators boats.

BTW, the cat was 30mph faster.

Sam

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Hey you BHF, you sure that you want to grab a kitty by the tail?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evilb: George

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I've never been in a cat, and thought about going to the dark side.
But to make this decision, I'd like a few rides in a cat before seriously considering it. Also, as usual, insurance is a factor.

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Stormrider I've thought about it as well. I've never ridden in one but I've been passed by plenty out in the slop! But the insurance is a good point. Is the insurance through the roof for the smaller cats as well? How does the insurance compare between a 25-30 cat and a 25-30 V?

Neverfastenuf, that's kind of what I was thinking. I was having a tough time picturing a 26' cat "slicing" through some 4' rollers. Not that I really care I was just curious. Most of my boating is done in a washing machine where a cat would be awesome!

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I just moved to the dark side this year and I will never be back :evilb:
Im not going to debate the size of the water because it is very subjective. What I will say is that we ran the NYC Poker Run and the 1000 Islands Poker Run and where never under 90mph in either.
However in BIG water Id rather be in a someone else's V at 60mph because I don’t want to beat my boat like that to prove…..well nothing. I feel for the conditions that I run my cat outperforms my V hands down.

As far as the insurance.
It comes down to weather or not you want to go fast. Fast to me is 100+. I did a little math before I bought my cat because people kept saying Oooh the insurance……
Well heres my thoughts, next Poker Run your at go up to the 100+ MPH boats and ask a few questions. First, how much do they pay for insurance? Second, how much did they pay for their boat? Third, and the big one, how much do they spend to maintain and repair BIG horsepower and drives?
Dollar for dollar you will not come even close to comparing the two. A 30 foot cat wins every time…. Comparing a 30 foot Cat and V is like comparing a cruiser and a sailboat, its not the same game.

If you would like, send me a PM with your number and Id be happy to BS with you about what Ive found.

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Tantrum, could you go into more detail about the cost.
on this thread http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...58#post1426758