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Old 09-30-2005, 07:01 AM
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Imagine having to gain the approval of the Chinese govt to read OSO...

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09/29/business/net.php
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Thats a bunch of CRAP!
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Phuck 'em.
They are so pissed off that they are so far behind, they claw and grab at every little piece of the action they can. Europe [shaking head]
Control of the internet? Good luck Europe.
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They can't do that! Al Gore invented the internet!
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So let me get this straite. We build the infastructure, make it popular, have MOST of the internet users, then THEY want to control it? UMMMM NO. How about you build your own just like we are doing again in the US for large businesses. There is going to soon be a second net for businesses only in an attempt to keep hackers out of these larger secured enviroments. With these guys want a piece of that as well?
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No one seems to be able to control the www (wild wild west), if they could, spam would be the first thing to be stopped.
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From the Financial Times

US unmoved on control of web address system
By Frances Williams in Geneva
September 30 2005 20:24

Washington remained unmoved on Friday in the face of international pressure for it to relinquish its exclusive control of the internet addressing system that enables the world's computers to communicate with each other.
That pressure increased this week when the European Union publicly threw its weight behind developing country demands for more international oversight of the domain name system.
The system is currently managed by the California-based Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann), a non-profit foundation under contract to the US Department of Commerce.
The stand-off between the US and virtually all other countries has dominated two weeks of negotiations in Geneva to prepare for a World Information Society Summit to be held in Tunis next month. Those talks were due to wind up on Friday night without agreement on the issues relating to internet governance, which also include how best to tackle problems such as spam, cybercrime and privacy that require international collaboration. More talks may be scheduled before the Tunis meeting.
Diplomats said there was widespread support for a “multi-stakeholder” forum bringing together governments, the private sector, civil society and other groups to discuss and make recommendations on policy matters but there had been no narrowing of differences over who should oversee the technical infrastructure of the internet.
The US, stressing the paramount need to ensure stability and security of the internet, said in June it would maintain its historic oversight role of the domain name system.
This stance has considerable support from business, which fears that handing over supervision to a United Nations or other inter-governmental group could politicise technical decisions and hamper flexibility and innovation.
But most other countries see no justification for continuing US control of what has become a global resource, even if they do not agree on what should replace the present arrangements.
The EU on Friday rejected US claims that its proposal for a “new co-operation model” represented a shift of position or backing for a heavy-handed international body. “We want Icann to operate under international law and be responsible to all governments,” David Hendon, spokesman for the EU delegation, said on Friday. “But we see the role of governments as establishing certain policy principles, not managing the domain name system.”
Though the US argues that the existing system works well, many governments find it unpalatable that Washington has the theoretical power to cut them off from the internet system by blocking the country suffix.
Developing countries have also expressed discontent over slow progress in introducing multilingual domain names and addresses, and the high costs they have to pay for internet access.
Internet experts point out that, in the longer run, continued US resistance could prompt moves to create rival networks that would break Icann's monopoly. www.itu.org/wsis
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No one seems to be able to control the www
Look at what the Communist Chinese are doing right now.

http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazi...112920,00.html

I'm concerned the US govt will cave in to these demands in return for some lame "co-operation" elsewhere, thinking Americans won't be paying any attention to what is going on.

If you have any similar concerns, drop an email to:

Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez
[email protected]

U.S. Department of Commerce

and

Ambassador David A. Gross
[email protected]

U.S. Department of State

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Didn't the Chinese just also try to buy one of oil companies??
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Didn't the Chinese just also try to buy one of oil companies??
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