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375stinger 10-10-2005 03:15 PM

dry exhaust system
 
i have a thru transom wet exhaust system, and are wanting to change to a dry exhaust system. do you ahve to buy an entire new exhaust? new pipes? can i modify my existing exhaust ? thanks

magnum27 10-10-2005 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 375stinger
i have a thru transom wet exhaust system, and are wanting to change to a dry exhaust system. do you ahve to buy an entire new exhaust? new pipes? can i modify my existing exhaust ? thanks

At most all you will need to do is get new tailpipes

GLH 10-10-2005 03:20 PM

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Looking to make friends? :D:D:D

Psychostroker 10-10-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by magnum27
At most all you will need to do is get new tailpipes

That might depend on what type or brand exhaust system you have.

375stinger 10-10-2005 03:40 PM

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yep just tryin to make friends with my slip neighbors when i go out about 8 in the morning
im not sure the type of exhaust..it is one of the few things that hasnt been changed during the restoration, yet...... :D the headers are tubes (center is polished & outside engiens look to ahve been painted at one time) ill post some pics of exhaust later on my other computer. im tryin to see if it is possible to modify existing exhaust cuse im guessing it would cost some money to get 3 sets of pipes including the long center pipes.

articfriends 10-10-2005 03:43 PM

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Why,are you having reversion problems or do you just want it to be LOUD? Tell us what kind of exhaust you have to start with. You might be able to modify it,Smitty

Tantrum 10-10-2005 03:46 PM

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I would make real sure you want to go dry before you go ahead and do so. If its merely for sound I think your making a big mistake. There are plenty of loud exhausts to choose from that arent over the top obnoxious (which is what you will get with dry)
I love the sound of a loud boat but they become a hassle to own when they are too loud.
Just my opinion :cool:
:chick:

Brad Zastrow 10-10-2005 03:49 PM

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I really do not recomend dry exhaust these days. Much too loud. But, if you must....weld up the water holes in the tailpipes (leave a small drain hole in the bottom of the tail pipe) and have a 1" NPT bung welded to the top of the tail pipe. Connect a hose from the pipe to a through transom outlet to dump the water.

Dock Holiday 10-10-2005 03:50 PM

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My 500 EFI's came with CMI headers and silent choice exhaust.

When we had the engines out last winter I went with a dry setup.

Took out the silent choice and added straight tailpipes from CMI dumping the water at the end. It cost about $800.00 per engine for the tail pipes. Kept the same stock headers.

It sounds AWESOME, but it is loud. I have had a couple of complaints that we had never had from the stock system.

Good luck

DJR 10-10-2005 04:21 PM

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Dock, What you are running is thru hull exhaust. There are 3 basic versions of exhaust with headers.

Tip Style - this is where the where the boat has tips in the transom and the tailpipes stop prior to the tips and connect with a rubber hose. The water is introduced just prior to the tip.

Thru Hull - this is what you are running. It is where the tail pipes come off of the headers and continue thru the transom without the use of tips. The water is introduced at the very end of the tailpipe.

Completely Dry - these are like thru hull tails except that the water is never introduced into the exhaust steam. There is a seperate bung near the end of the tailpipe where the water is drained off and dumped overboard with a thru hull fitting.

375stinger 10-10-2005 04:43 PM

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thanks zastrow .
here are the only pics i have (before redo)whereyou can see the exhaust

drypipetiger 10-10-2005 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tantrum
over the top obnoxious (which is what you will get with dry)I love the sound of a loud boat but they become a hassle to own when they are too loud.

LIGHTWEIGHT! :D :D

drypipetiger 10-10-2005 04:54 PM

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Here's my transom. You can see the stainless holes on the transom where the water is diverted..... My exhaust and tail pipes are for wet application. Only difference is the water is diverted.

drypipetiger 10-10-2005 04:55 PM

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At 45 seconds you will get a small taste of dry exhaust. I'll try to get some video of starting and revving at the dock. Stay tuned.

http://media.putfile.com/Neildriveby

tomtbone1993 10-10-2005 05:23 PM

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Think about this with a triple application, The pipes will be extremly hot without water......in cases you have to adjust something.

drypipetiger 10-10-2005 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tomtbone1993
Think about this with a triple application, The pipes will be extremly hot without water......in cases you have to adjust something.

Water is cooling the exhaust till just prior to the transom where it is diverted out.

FASTERDAMITT 10-10-2005 05:38 PM

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Mine with Lightning have a inner and outer tailpipe tube. The water cools the tailpipe without being entered into the exhaust gases. The water exits at the end of the tailpipe outside the boat. Outer is 5" and inner is 4.5" with thier glasspack baffle inserted.

ApacheCarl 10-10-2005 05:40 PM

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Heh, and people wonder why noise laws get passed, Duh. Boats with dry pipes are not doing the sport any good. I run wet exhaust and use mufflers in port even though there are not any noise laws in my area. Most people I know do this also so there is less chance of noise rules in the future. Boats with dry exhaust are way too loud and sound like crap in my opinion. Louder isn't always better.

tomtbone1993 10-10-2005 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by drypipetiger
Water is cooling the exhaust till just prior to the transom where it is diverted out.



so is that a true dry pipe? It appears I have the same system you have..........and my chit is too loud.........

drypipetiger 10-10-2005 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ApacheCarl
Heh, and people wonder why noise laws get passed, Duh. Boats with dry pipes are not doing the sport any good. I run wet exhaust and use mufflers in port even though there are not any noise laws in my area. Most people I know do this also so there is less chance of noise rules in the future. Boats with dry exhaust are way too loud and sound like crap in my opinion. Louder isn't always better.

I respect your opinion. The previous owner of my boat converted to dry to avoid reversion. My tail pipes do have the "gas shock" doors to close. They do make a difference when needed.

Neil

drypipetiger 10-10-2005 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tomtbone1993
I have the same system you have..........and my chit is too loud.........

Tripples. Dry. :eek: :eek: :drink:

375stinger 10-10-2005 05:55 PM

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thanks for the info, glad to know it is not too big of a modification for the dry exhaust. now were just waiting to tear down the center engine and see wuts goin down. i understand a large amount of members do not recommend dry exhaust, but thats why we all have our own boats...if all boats were the same then thered be no fun to the sport :drink:

FASTERDAMITT 10-10-2005 05:56 PM

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Some applications must be dry. I know mine is recamended with 600ci's.

waterheater 10-10-2005 07:21 PM

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Download this movie to see and hear Neil's dry pipes.

Click here to watch Neil's dry pipes.

dyno 10-10-2005 07:30 PM

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went dry this spring ....great if you have reversion problems but way loud all the time !

dockrocker 10-10-2005 07:52 PM

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I'll vouch for that - I was behind dyno's Sonic heading out of Grand Haven. You definitely know it didn't come out of the factory that way, and his motors are pretty mild.

AIR TIME 10-10-2005 10:13 PM

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I HAVE FULL DRY LOVE IT. MINE SOUNDS LIKE THAT CLIP OF NEILS :D I HAD TO FLUSH MINE OUT LAST WEEK AT THE HOUSE THE GUY NEXT DOOR ALMOST **** HIMSELF WHEN I STARTED UP :eek: Ithought him and his wife was out it was 3pm I have shotguns but holding them up on the doesn't sound much different put there going on :rolleyes: for my wife :D .

Dock Holiday 10-11-2005 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DJR
Thru Hull - this is what you are running. It is where the tail pipes come off of the headers and continue thru the transom without the use of tips. The water is introduced at the very end of the tailpipe.

Yes

Cignificant 11-04-2005 07:26 AM

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Doed anyone make a tailpipe that has a 90-degree "bung" welded onto the inside of the tailpipe? I'm pulling off my CMI silent choice this winter and would rather divert the water into the exhaust path on the inside of the boat. ..

el indio 11-04-2005 07:29 AM

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call randy at stellings..........spoke to him yesterday..........my new tailpipes will be ready next week............mark...........he can make you whatever you need.............m.m...........

RedDog382 11-04-2005 08:24 AM

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Bob at Lake Precision Welding in Cleveland also does nice work at very reasonable prices. He used to do all the custom work for Gil.

I had some issues with reversion in my C.M.I. wet set-up. He reconfigured my tailpipes to dump the water at the very tip outside the transom. Completely resolved the reversion, but way to loud after about ten minutes. I'm adding GGB Extremes.

Semper Fi 11-04-2005 10:28 AM

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TOO LOUD is not always cool. All it does is piss off people Then they complain and we have noise laws. I put mufflers on my boat and it still has that "rumble" to the sound, but it's much quieter. :D

Panther 11-04-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tomtbone1993
so is that a true dry pipe? It appears I have the same system you have..........and my chit is too loud.........

You're giving me flashbacks with that picture. :eek:

Pretty sure your boat is a 1991-92 with 540's...?? If so, I know way to much about that boat! Ear plugs a necessity.

Fountain38SC 11-04-2005 10:48 AM

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I went dry due to reversion with the new motors. Had to change the tailpipes and plumb the water discharge. Yes, the will cause you to make new friends.

drypipetiger 11-04-2005 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Semper Fi
TOO LOUD is not always cool.

Your right, sometimes its totally awesome.... :drink:




Originally Posted by Semper Fi
All it does is piss off people Then they complain and we have noise laws.

F#CK EM! :drink:

drypipetiger 11-04-2005 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fountain38SC
Yes, the will cause you to make new friends.

When I put mufflers on my rig it will be because I can't take it anymore, not because someone else can't take it... :drink:

tomtbone1993 11-04-2005 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Panther
You're giving me flashbacks with that picture. :eek:

Pretty sure your boat is a 1991-92 with 540's...?? If so, I know way to much about that boat! Ear plugs a necessity.




yep.............way to loud :( sounds good while running......but to loud for me

FASTERDAMITT 11-04-2005 12:40 PM

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Check into the Lightnings like I have. They build a 5" dry tailpipe with a glasspack built in kinda like your street bike has. Still not as quiet as wet exhaust but at least it's a little noise reduction. Thier priced alot better than CMI aslo. I paid $3800 for stainless powdercoated system complete. Same warranty.

tomtbone1993 11-04-2005 12:52 PM

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how do they protect water from coming back in? I have staight backs currently......no way to change from that, with out fiberglass work.

Panther 11-04-2005 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by drypipetiger
Here's my transom. You can see the stainless holes on the transom where the water is diverted..... My exhaust and tail pipes are for wet application. Only difference is the water is diverted.

Are you running any water into the mufflers to keep them cool or from turning colors?

I put 1/4" holes in my pipes to keep the mufflers cool but haven't had a chance to install them yet.


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