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klaw 12-16-2009 02:42 PM

I thought he got life for RICO violations. So even if the murder was tosseed he should still be in for life.
Plus the botched helicopter ride did not help.

I think it has always been the perception you were safe from the mob unless you got involved but with the drug cartel alot of innocents were cannon fodder.

PARADISE ISLAND 12-16-2009 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by kramers kid 69 (Post 2801631)
the plea was no contest!PLUS GOOD NEWS IF YOU ALL GO CHECK YOUR PUBLIC RECORDS THE CASE HAS JUST BEEN OVER TURNED.THE NO CONTEST PLEA ON THE MURDER CASE IS NO LONGER AGAINST BEN KRAMER.CHECK IT OUT!

I'm far from a lawyer but why did his not use here say as defence in this crime?

thisistank 01-11-2010 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by cigaronow (Post 3021650)
This recently released DVD is available on Ebay.. Type in the the search box.. ARONOW DVD & you will be able to see & hear some new facts & some very interesteing facts to say the least. I highly recommend it to clear the air...

I watched the DVD. I thought it was poorly put together. Kind've jumped around. And I didn't really see any "facts" come to life.
I thought the City Confidential on A&E was far better in content and production value.

I saw a bunch of opinions. I also know for a fact the guy that did the documentary personally feels Kramer is innocent (agenda? Just a bit. He's looking into doing a documentary on Kramer too). I heard Kramer give some reason for pleading no contest was that he didn't want to sit in the local jail because he wasn't being treated well...WTF EVER! Yea, I'd plead guilty to murder because I didn't like the jail I was in:rolleyes: If he loved Arronow so much, like he claimed in the video, why did he put the money up to defend the guy that killed him!?

There was no mention of the case being over turned. Where is that info located? What were the reasons for it being over turned? And if you questioned his innocents when he was found guilty, how can you not question his guilt if the case was over turned?

He's currently sitting where he deserves to be. He's a criminal.

PhantomChaos 11-26-2012 11:00 AM

Did he get home this year? LOL :D :D

X-Rated30 11-26-2012 07:45 PM

No, but two states legalized marijuana. Irony?:whistle:

Comanche3Six 11-26-2012 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by kramers kid 69 (Post 2801631)
the plea was no contest!PLUS GOOD NEWS IF YOU ALL GO CHECK YOUR PUBLIC RECORDS THE CASE HAS JUST BEEN OVER TURNED.THE NO CONTEST PLEA ON THE MURDER CASE IS NO LONGER AGAINST BEN KRAMER.CHECK IT OUT!

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...qeBPk7PjKldWnQ

Comanche3Six 11-27-2013 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3821589)
Did he get home this year? LOL :D :D



Any minute now, any minute......................

Level III Chaos 11-27-2013 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 4033260)
Any minute now, any minute......................



Are you picking him up? :D LOL

Comanche3Six 11-27-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Level III Chaos (Post 4033523)
Are you picking him up? :D LOL

Chris Sunkin is flying him out.

Comanche3Six 11-27-2013 11:04 PM

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The Feds returned his personal effects.


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