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dmaxx3500 12-12-2006 03:59 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 
just let them out allready,it was a h*ll of a good time back then

Comanche3Six 12-12-2006 04:01 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
This cracks me up- People in New York idolized John Gotti, the Sopranos is one of the most watched shows ever and movies like Godfather, Goodfellas and so on are popular decades after they're made. Ben's the only one that gets the bad rap?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending him. It just seems a bit inconsistent.

Chris
Any connection to the Murder of Don Aronow and I have no sympathy for that person.
Ed

Chris Sunkin 12-12-2006 04:17 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
Chris
Any connection to the Murder of Don Aronow and I have no sympathy for that person.
Ed

What Ben did was not only evil but cowardly- he didn't even do it himself. Don was no saint but he didn't deserve to be shot down like that.

Sean H 12-12-2006 04:26 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Dude! Sweet!
It always will to me!

JP Jr. is long out and you can hire him for driver training or public speaking engagements. His pop is back in though right? And where are the Whittingtons?

My favorite part of the story was when Lainer decided to "leave the country" to evade arrest and they found him in Puerto Rico!

dale, the only whittington that didn't go to prison, died in 2003

bill forfeited $7M and was sentenanced to 15 years in 1987 and don got 18 months for money laundering....

and for those who don't know, the whittingtons built road atlanta with their drug money...

thisistank 12-12-2006 04:28 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 
You guys keep saying that neither are saints. One's a drug runner and murderer. The other was a shrude business man. I don't see the connection. Is there something that the rest of us dont know? Did Don ever hire someone to commit a murder? Did Don ever have direct connections with drug smuggling? I realize Don knew who he was selling boats too but again...That's business.

I don't see the comparison of the two.

And at what point did Don and Kramer race against each other?

Dude! Sweet! 12-12-2006 04:38 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 
Thanks Sean. Always wondered never took the time to look it up.

Funny thing to look back on that era of IMSA/boating/smuggling. It was all about marijuana smuggling back then. Amazing considering that certain states are now legalizing it for medicinal purposes and that in general, MJ has a diminished reputation as a Terrifying Narcotic now a days...

Comanche3Six 12-12-2006 04:52 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
What Ben did was not only evil but cowardly- he didn't even do it himself. Don was no saint but he didn't deserve to be shot down like that.

agreed

Hauling Trash 12-12-2006 06:04 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 
Does anyone know where Don was going the day he got shot ?????????




Mike

Racegirl3 12-12-2006 06:11 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Hauling Trash
Does anyone know where Don was going the day he got shot ?????????




Mike


Of course ... Ive seen the DVD :D

Pantera1 12-12-2006 06:59 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Hauling Trash
Does anyone know where Don was going the day he got shot ?????????




Mike

He told his seceratary he was going home after visiting Bobby S.
(speed kills)
Harris


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