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thisistank 12-13-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Audiofn
Tank bro lets not be nieve. I know you have a cig but open up the old eyes!!! :p :p The guy hosed how many people in how many deals? If he knew his boats were being used for drug running then correct me if I am wrong but that would be a crime? I am guessing the None of them are upstairs if ya know what I mean. :eek: :eek:

I'm not saying he wasn't a very smart man (read, shrude business man). But compairing him to a murdering, drug smuggler is a bit off.

And for the points you made. When you say "hosed" people in deals, are you refering to times like when he bought back the company from Kramer at less of the price and didn't return the upfront cash after the company went tits up? I don't really think that's hosing someone. That's a smart business practice. No one twisted Kramers arm to sell it back to him. Just like no one twisted anyones arm to do business with Don in all his compan buys and sales.

The other point of him selling boats to both sides. He's was in the boat selling business. There's currently Fountains being used by the U.S. Customs, and Fountains being used to smuggler people/drugs. Does this mean Fountain or it's dealers are criminals? I don't think so.

My point being, there are PLENTY of shady people in the Offhshore boating scene that go into custom shops to order boats. You don't think the owners know these people are shady? They don't care who buys the boat as long as it's paid for. That's business, right or wrong. I still don't think that's a reason to compare the two.

Reed Jensen 12-13-2006 02:53 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by T2x
I wasn't aware that the Marquis of Queensbury rules applied to underworld combat........

T2x

Roflmao.... well.... maybe the rules would apply if they had gone at it "mano a mano".

Reed Jensen 12-13-2006 02:58 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by thisistank
I'm not saying he wasn't a very smart man (read, shrude business man). But compairing him to a murdering, drug smuggler is a bit off.

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Shrude?... is that like a sh-rude.... quiet rude?.... ohhhh.... you mean "shrewd"............ :D

Reed Jensen 12-13-2006 03:01 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 
I wonder if the relatives of people that died from drug overdoses are going to sue the boat builders for building instruments of death because they transport the drugs?.... Similar to suing the maker of a firearm that was used in a crime. .... :p

thisistank 12-13-2006 04:02 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Reed Jensen
Shrude?... is that like a sh-rude.... quiet rude?.... ohhhh.... you mean "shrewd"............ :D

Easy spelling nazi! :eek: :D

bouyhunter 12-13-2006 05:54 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by thisistank
The other point of him selling boats to both sides. He's was in the boat selling business. There's currently Fountains being used by the U.S. Customs, and Fountains being used to smuggler people/drugs. Does this mean Fountain or it's dealers are criminals? I don't think so.

But, drugs are bad.
Anything related to drugs are bad...

Boat's don't use drugs, boats don't sell drugs.
People use drugs. People sell drugs.

Reed Jensen 12-13-2006 06:34 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by thisistank
Easy spelling nazi! :eek: :D

Achtung!.... achtung!..... ve haf vays uff makeen yoo tawk... :p

Racegirl3 12-13-2006 06:39 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by Reed Jensen
Achtung!.... achtung!..... ve haf vays uff makeen yoo tawk... :p


Ahhhh .. but can you make them spell correctly? :p :drink:

bouyhunter 12-13-2006 06:58 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 

Originally Posted by OFFSHOREJOJO
Dealing with criminals with big bucks makes you a criminal also

How so???
If I own a donut shop, and a criminal with big money want's to buy a donut, should I not sell??

Robingo 12-13-2006 09:12 PM

Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
 
That day at Apache, I asked B&B why they were crying. Ben said, "Somebody killed the Old Man". I thought at first he was talking about his dad, Jack. But they told me it was Don Aronow.
When I asked why someone would kill him, Ben said "I guess he f#%ked with the wrong people"


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