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by the way that is two key west poker runs in a row that extreme exhibit has cut us off and sprayed us down, I have video of both.

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here we go again :(
Hows about everyone waits until either the lawyers or the courts sort it all out before passing judgements?

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I didn't know you were racing us. I would have started my port engine if I knew that!! :D
Which cat were you? The Orange Nortec?

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I was sitting here miding my own business today. Then, here we go again!! Just when I thought I was out, they drag me back in! :D

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I think inflammatory remarks like this are really unnecessary and the reason the original thread was deleted. I'm not impressed. :(

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Lubejob, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you but I will respond to your post.

Phil told me his side of the story 10 minutes after pulling into KW harbor. My statements come directly from the source. I read your original thread, therefore I heard your side of the story and I've heard Phils side of the story. The problem is most people on here only heard your side of the story because you came on here very soon after pulling into KW and began posting about the incident. Before the thread got deleted no one posted the other side of the story.

Now as usual you are making threats that have no ground "You never know who will be the new Cigarette dealer in the near future"? Give me a break. Come back on here in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, years and appaulogize for such a ludacris statement.

You have expert witness' of this. Don't think you're the only one that has people that saw this. I personally spoke with several people in KW that were running behind you on the way down. I hate to break this to you but zig-zagging back and forth accross the causeway is not safe boating. The people I spoke with said they backed off because they too were either cut off by you our nearly sprayed down by you. Ramming into you and holding your line are two completely different things. And as the Coast Gaurd Regulations state; Two powerboats merging toward the same locations (i.e. channel markers) the boat on the starboard side has right of way. Call it he said/she said if you wish, but not everyone saw it the way you say it went down.

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PLEASE

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My intent is not to stir the pot or start a heated argument again. I'm sorry if anything I said was out of line (though I don't believe it was). I know this is a touchy subject on here. I never thought it was fair that a huge mass of OSO members only heard one side of the story and made judgments based on such. Then the deletings started and the other side was never told. It's like the old saying goes, "There's three sides to every story". Yours, theres and the truth.

Phil will not come on here and say his side of the story, not that there's a conciseness of doubt in his defense but because he see's no point in it. It's the same reason Reggie, Skip, etc. doesn't come on here to defend themselves. It's an up-hill battle to debate to un-informed masses. You are right, the courts will figure it out for themselves but now at least the masses of OSO have had the opportunity to hear both sides of the story. This was my intent.

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If this is a touchy subjet so lets make facts short...
someone who is supposed to be a tough ex racer cant take a drop of water and gets pissed and can´t stand a little psyching/picking in the water...
Now I Understand Ex- racers....the´re just that.
Not like an ex-Boxer.
What a bunch of female kittens.... :chick:

Cool down both of you involved and eat your (laughable) pride.

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It was not my boat, it was a buddies boat we ran down on.

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Hey..even the stones in the moon are interested....(NOT).

Uuupps I apalogize..the we ran down on got me thinking wrong.

Now end this thread Phleese. :chimp:

Accidents do happen within inexperienced boaters that hasn´t been much outside their coastline... :drink:

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Dude, what are you babbling about??? :D :D

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Well I didn't mean to get this all started. But we are thinking about running the poker run next year and we didn't know if we should install a big windshield or run with bumpers. :drink:

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yes I was in the orange nortec, when I try to go that fast in my boat on only one engine it tends to turn when you go in air how do you keep that from happening?

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Hello
I would like to know if there is anybody in here who know any body that have 2 sets of original Volvo Penta EFI systems (complet with ignition and wirering) for the DPX 500 or 8,2GSI for sale (used)? The reason is that i would like to rebild my 8,2GL with the new EFI system and ignition.....


Best Regards
Erik Sorensen

P.S. Great homepage!!!

apache



Hello I forgotten to tell . That it is the same whits is on Mercuiser 500 HP EFI The blue one

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Same as everyone else in this thread... useless chit.
Point proven?

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Sound like we are getting the LUBEJOB here

Anybody that want to see the Pic's I Have of the two Boats PM me your e mail adddress I will send them to you with out ducktape


Rick OSG

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For those who don't want to read this thread...why are you on here? No disrespect intended, but I just don't understand why some people complain about threads etc...it's like Howard Stern...if you don't like it or don't want to read it don't. Again, not intended to piss you off, but come on! :rolleyes:

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Shane - amen :cool:

MikeyFin - useless chit? Its called conversation. Some of us like to have them :p

apache - that made me laugh .. great timing :drink:

Birdog - you never said why you didnt go this year (and Carrie was really pissed at you)

RHC - Hope you enjoyed the bird :eek: tell Steph to come over for some Jack and lemonade :drink:

Tank - Once again, well done. No name callin. No extra remarks. :cool:

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Oh ya ... since Im a novice when it comes to poker runs, and I heard there were about 75 boats on the run, wouldnt everyone be running straight ahead? why would there be any zig zagging? not tryin to start anything .. just tryin to learn :bunny:

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man rick, my 20mil thick film would have protected that spot :)

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Yor boat runs great. I can't believe how nice it looks since the flames were added. I didn't know it was the same boat. You did a great job!!

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it is not my boat, we were with him in the orange boat.

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I saw the orange one with the flames going back up the Keys on a trailer-the effect of the paint is awesome, very cool ride.

As an aside, I think a quick look at the video would pretty much put the collision argument to rest.

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He was just tring to keep his props warm until the pace boat pulled of the track :rolleyes: JB

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LMAO! :D

WAM!

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:drink: Now THAT I understand :p :D

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Actually Shane, I like these threads. They start innocent, spiral out of control and GET THE BOARD SHUT DOWN.

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Put in terms that RG will understand....Well done ! :D :D :D

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Well this thread has lasted four pages without getting poofed, proof that a controversial subject CAN be discussed here as long as "reason and respect" is shown. Except for a couple minor comments, that has been done.

I don't know either party. I wasn't there. I haven't seen, nor particularly care to, the video. One thing that seems to be universially agreed upon is that one participant was "zig-zagging" in the channel. I would not think that would be the smartest, or safest, or most responsible manner in which to operate. Seems to me that operating in such a manner is a problem just waiting to happen. So since I'm so good as asking dumb questions, I would have to ask why someone would do that??????

Regardless of what/any group you may be talking about, I doubt anyone would particularly care for someone constantly cutting back and forth.



Disclaimer: the above post is not intended to offend, pizz off, accuse, or in any manner disrespect anyone about anything.

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There was no weaving, no zig zagging or anything else. And "if" there was does that give someone the right to run into you? If someone cuts you off on the highway can you plow into them? NO! The person who hits the other person is responsible. I was on the port corner of the pace boat most of the trip to Gilberts. The video will show this. We never move from that spot. This is all lies just like the lie that I threatened Phil and they were going to arrest me. NEVER HAPPENED! In fact, people on the dock were saying "I can't believe your this calm". Steve from OSO saw the tape. Why don't you ask him if I was weaving.
Now remember, Stu Jones eye witnessed the incident. He called a drivers meeting at Gilbert's. Asked who saw what happened. A bunch of hand went up and they all said the same thing. Phil hit Lubejobs. Phil was SEVERELY reprimanded. He was also told not to participate the rest of the run or be anywhere around the group the rest of the trip. I was not reprimanded in any way, shape or form. We were next to the pace boat the entire time! Call Stu and ask him. He's not going to take sides. He wants safe Poker runs, period. I hope someone from here calls Stu to get the true story. This is all a bunch of he said she said. I was there, I was the victim, I was assaulted. If I didn't have a case I would not be pursuing anything. Believe me, I have the evidence to back me up. I only wish I could post the video but I had to sign an agreement only to use it for the case.

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I'll have to believe you for now LubeJob. My eggs are in your basket. Please keep us posted, something stinks here.

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I don't know you or Phil, I wasn't there and I didn't see it happen (just like most of the people on here) so it would be unfair for me or anyone that didn't see it happen to pass judgement on either party. But what I can say is that if I WAS pi$$ed at someone I wouldn't put the saftey of my crew in jeopardy. I would wait till we were on land and we could settle it like men.

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I Believe a V boat can get squirrely and those behind might take it as weaving...but also the one gaining the other has to give way for the slower by naval law.

Racegirl..whit useless chit I meant just infalting the thread not much else.
The pics can be found in another forum of lubejobs boat.
Anyone have of Phil the Sills :D ?

I think both guys overreacted and when it was brought here OSO did lose some customers.
Even probably many are reconsidering joining as a paying member.

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Another thing, When he ran into me he kept going. Then we I caught up with him He never appologized. I know if I hit someone on accident, I would feel horrible and appolgize my butt off! His excuse was I got him wet earlier and he couldn't let that go. This is in the police report. I work very hard keeping my boat nice. I truley love the sport and the people I got to know on these runs. I have beem on probably 100 poker runs and have never had any kind of incident like this. Truthfully, not even an argument.
A few years ago, again at Gilberts, 2 people ran into my boat by accident. I had the boat 3 days. I saw it happen. The people got caught by the current and banged into me. They put a few 2" chips and a 12" scratch. The people felt horrible. I didn't even get mad. It was an accident. They appologized and told me to send them the bill. I got it repaired for $750, they sent me a check for $1000, I sent them the $250 back. I still get Christmas cards from them. Accidents happen. This was not an accident.

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On your 1st post when this all started you stated that after he hit you he stopped and started yelling at you, then other boats started gathering around to see if you were ok. Now I'm really confussed.

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LUBEJOB STOP YOUR CRYING & GO BUY MORE DUCT TAPE YOUR STORY IS GETTING OLD.

Rick OSG

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Time to move on. I have seen the video and can tell you that many of your statements are without merit. Lets let the parties settle this between themselves.

Thread closed.