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JCPERF 01-11-2006 06:11 PM

Dry sump vs. Wet sump #6s
 
How much difference in speed are the 2 drives?What is the sweptback skeg worth over the wet sump skeg?I have heard alot of #s but has anyone backed to back the drives?

OldSchool 01-11-2006 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF
How much difference in speed are the 2 drives?What is the sweptback skeg worth over the wet sump skeg?I have heard alot of #s but has anyone backed to back the drives?

You better not come up with a pair to sell!!!!! :eek: :eek:

:D :evilb: :drink: :evilb:

lightspeed 01-11-2006 06:26 PM

Re: Dry sump vs. Wet sump #6s
 
Dry Sump Drives Are The Way To Go ///Uses Less HP Than The Wet Sump///// No If Ands Or Butts///go with a dry sump

JCPERF 01-11-2006 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blastersbro
dont worry you will have one to test back to back with soon enough. :cool:

Yeah yours :D

JCPERF 01-11-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lightspeed
Dry Sump Drives Are The Way To Go ///Uses Less HP Than The Wet Sump///// No If Ands Or Butts///go with a dry sump

I know they are better but how much better?

stecz20 01-11-2006 07:02 PM

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i thought you knew everything...

JCPERF 01-11-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stecz20
i thought you knew everything...

I do ............almost :D

The Menace 01-11-2006 07:20 PM

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From my understanding at least 5 mph. However, it depends on your prop set up as well. If you are already at the rev limiters you will see zip improvement.

offshoredrillin 01-11-2006 07:32 PM

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I read somewhere that the swept skeg really only helps at high speeds, 95-100 +.... And on lake champlain at that speed you were hardly in the water and Byrd was holding on for dear life...:D

stecz20 01-11-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF
I do ............almost :D


i better ask z all my important questions......

KNOT-RIGHT 01-11-2006 08:21 PM

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Herring quoted $2200 to do the conversion on the early style.
The skeg and bullet is actually thicker on the early non dry sumps. My understanding is going to the swept back is good for about 3mph up top. Dont know what the dry sumps are worth in speed.


Oh yeah JC thanks for those early style converted dry sump 6,s ya sold me last night from that Dude in Va. Sh@t! I hope He,s not a member here. :evilb: :D

JCPERF 01-11-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by caveman
Herring quoted $2200 to do the conversion on the early style.
The skeg and bullet is actually thicker on the early non dry sumps. My understanding is going to the swept back is good for about 3mph up top. Dont know what the dry sumps are worth in speed.


Oh yeah JC thanks for those early style converted dry sump 6,s ya sold me last night from that Dude in Va. Sh@t! I hope He,s not a member here. :evilb: :D

Hes so drunk he wont even know he has Bravos until he reaches D.C. :drink: :evilb:

OldSchool 01-11-2006 08:30 PM

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Not funny...I could SNAP at any moment!!!!!!

JCPERF 01-11-2006 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Not funny...I could SNAP at any moment!!!!!!

:evilb: :evilb:

stecz20 01-11-2006 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Not funny...I could SNAP at any moment!!!!!!


oh boy, what are we gonna do if that happens.....

Titan 01-11-2006 08:36 PM

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The guy in the picture looks like the guy that bought the black and blue 27 Progression JC. T- Mones buddy!!!!

I hope the Progresssion does not turn into that!

Titan 01-11-2006 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stecz20
oh boy, what are we gonna do if that happens.....


He will Take It!!!

OldSchool 01-11-2006 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF
:evilb: :evilb:

LMAO... You've got me ...I've got no response for that!!! :drink: :drink: Is that your buddy Mascara in the picture?? :D

OldSchool 01-11-2006 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stecz20
oh boy, what are we gonna do if that happens.....

Don't make me send my wife up there to whup you. :cool:

JCPERF 01-11-2006 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool
LMAO... You've got me ...I've got no response for that!!! :drink: :drink: Is that your buddy Mascara in the picture?? :D

:evilb: :evilb:

Ron P 01-11-2006 08:42 PM

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Your not putting 6s on Fever are ya????

Motely Crew ran the 6s off Kurt's old CUV race boat with the old style skeg. Go figure. Not sure if they were dry sumped or not, but they were defently old and well broken in before they got them.

JCPERF 01-11-2006 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron P
Your not putting 6s on Fever are ya????

Motely Crew ran the 6s off Kurt's old CUV race boat with the old style skeg. Go figure. Not sure if they were dry sumped or not, but they were defently old and well broken in before they got them.

Bravos are on Fever now :cool: I am debating shooting the lock off my wallet and buying a dry sump 6 for my boat. :D

Ron P 01-11-2006 09:40 PM

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Debating??? I thought you took take of that already.

What's going in the old Dragon Lady? That was the very first canopy boat in B class. I think the only US canopy vee prior to then was Inxs.

A 1994 Fountain hull still racing. This should be an interesting year with OPA sounds like a lot of interesting equipment is getting ready.

JCPERF 01-11-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron P
Debating??? I thought you took take of that already.

What's going in the old Dragon Lady? That was the very first canopy boat in B class. I think the only US canopy vee prior to then was Inxs.

A 1994 Fountain hull still racing. This should be an interesting year with OPA sounds like a lot of interesting equipment is getting ready.

I have the 6 on my boat.It is a wet sump.If i could pick up a substantial gain going to dry sump i would do it.The Dragon Lady boat is turn key with 750 Supercat motors and dry sump 6s.It is ready for P2 action in OPA.It will be called "Armed and Dangerous" in memory of Al.Rumor has it that Peter Meyer might be racing the 40 Fountain in P2 also. :cool:

OU Want Some?!! 01-11-2006 09:54 PM

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You'll need "ultra, mega dry sumps" to hang with the E-dockers... :evilb: :D
















but I commend the effort! :evilb: :D

JCPERF 01-11-2006 09:57 PM

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[QUOTE=OU Want Some]You'll need "ultra, mega dry sumps" to hang with the E-dockers... :evilb: :D




This little Activator will be like a Misquito buzzing around your head.You know its there and it gets annoying :eek: :evilb: :evilb: OUcant outrun a single engine boat? :drink: :drink:

OU Want Some?!! 01-11-2006 10:11 PM

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[QUOTE=JCPERF]

Originally Posted by OU Want Some
You'll need "ultra, mega dry sumps" to hang with the E-dockers... :evilb: :D




This little Activator will be like a Misquito buzzing around your head.You know its there and it gets annoying :eek: :evilb: :evilb: OUcant outrun a single engine boat? :drink: :drink:

well, my boat is still down in ft. myers getting "tested" (read "flogged") by Nor tech... :rolleyes: So I guess you're right.

You have to look out for the new 42mti though, he's hungry for bird!!

JCPERF 01-11-2006 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OU Want Some
well, my boat is still down in ft. myers getting "tested" (read "flogged") by Nor tech... :rolleyes: So I guess you're right.

You have to look out for the new 42mti though, he's hungry for bird!!

Keep chewing. :p Byrd is going wild like a *** in boystown on this boat.It will dominate :cool: :evilb:

Ron P 01-11-2006 10:19 PM

Re: Dry sump vs. Wet sump #6s
 

Originally Posted by JCPERF
I have the 6 on my boat.It is a wet sump.If i could pick up a substantial gain going to dry sump i would do it.The Dragon Lady boat is turn key with 750 Supercat motors and dry sump 6s.It is ready for P2 action in OPA.It will be called "Armed and Dangerous" in memory of Al.Rumor has it that Peter Meyer might be racing the 40 Fountain in P2 also. :cool:

I don't think you'll get much in a single application and less in ocean water. Who you hunting for anyhow? :D

Armed and Dangerous, last time I saw them race was in 94 when Fever almost landed in thier cockpit coming around a turn.

I heard Bob Oliver is all over Pete to get Instigator ready. Now that should be a good team.

What are you running, your Activator or Fever?

JCPERF 01-11-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron P
I don't think you'll get much in a single application and less in ocean water. Who you hunting for anyhow? :D

Armed and Dangerous, last time I saw them race was in 94 when Fever almost landed in thier cockpit coming around a turn.

I heard Bob Oliver is all over Pete to get Instigator ready. Now that should be a good team.

What are you running, your Activator or Fever?

I will mainly run my Activator.We will run Fever in a couple of races.I will run it with Joe Sgro.Joe Latona will be at the races as an advisor :drink: :drink: I was in Fever when we almost hit Armed and Dangerous in 93 FT lauderdale :cool:

blingbling 01-11-2006 11:53 PM

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On a 32 skater I had with wet sumps and a round skeg, about 139mph the ass end would start to move around. Jerry Gilbreath told me to convert to dry as well as a Herring swep skeg. Not only did it haul ass, but went straight as an arrow. He once told me that he found on the race boats that had round skegs back then, the ones that he at least ran, had handling issues at about 130. Cats that is. BTW, the price to convert to a swep skeg with herring, is a bit more then what's been posted.

Corsa 31 01-12-2006 07:10 AM

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I have a 32 skater with 800sc's and wet #6's that gets a little hairy over 125mph as well. I seldom go that fast so would not be benificial for me to convert to dry sumps & swept back, but good info to know. Very easy to cruise all day 4000rpm=100mph, wife prefers I stay under 100, also safer with 4 people on board.

mr_velocity 01-12-2006 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF
Bravos are on Fever now :cool: I am debating shooting the lock off my wallet and buying a dry sump 6 for my boat. :D

Get a hold of ScottB he has a #6 for sale at a very good price. You should talk to Craig Colabella about the difference in conversion numbers. When he was our crew chief he was doing conversions for a lot of the race teams so I am sure he's got the numbers.

stecz20 01-12-2006 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Don't make me send my wife up there to whup you. :cool:

if you do, can you tell her to make me a corned beef on rye with mustard, and a beer too.... make sure she has something sexy on when she comes up.. thanks pal....

OldSchool 01-12-2006 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stecz20
if you do, can you tell her to make me a corned beef on rye with mustard, and a beer too.... make sure she has something sexy on when she comes up.. thanks pal....

:D :evilb: :D :evilb:

Ron P 01-12-2006 09:37 AM

Re: Dry sump vs. Wet sump #6s
 

Originally Posted by JCPERF
I will mainly run my Activator.We will run Fever in a couple of races.I will run it with Joe Sgro.Joe Latona will be at the races as an advisor :drink: :drink: I was in Fever when we almost hit Armed and Dangerous in 93 FT lauderdale :cool:

Yup, it was the Worlds in Ft Lauderdale. I guess it was as close as it looked. South end turn...

You sure it wasn't 94? I could almost bet on it.

DPT MOTORSPORTS 01-12-2006 10:06 AM

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JC,

Not really sure how much of a speed difference there would be but there will definitely be a difference compared to an older #6 compared to a drysump/swept back skeg #6. Not sure what the cost difference would be but if you can do it for minimal then go with the dry sump and the swept back skeg. I think Herring makes swept back skegs for the older sixes. Hope that helps you a liitle.

JCPERF 01-15-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron P
Yup, it was the Worlds in Ft Lauderdale. I guess it was as close as it looked. South end turn...

You sure it wasn't 94? I could almost bet on it.

93 for a 100 wink :D

SCARABJ 01-15-2006 02:42 PM

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douch bag how was the ride back?? :D

JCPERF 01-15-2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SCARABJ
douch bag how was the ride back?? :D

Good until we hit the bullsh1t weather.Yeah shut up i know your going boating today.Timmy says we should have a roast of Fred[Pompi] :D :drink:


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