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Old 03-06-2006 | 04:20 PM
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How about this lake boat?
thats todd wellings isnt it?
did he end up selling it? is a fast 38
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Old 03-06-2006 | 04:23 PM
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nice pics, looks sweet,,, makes me want to go boating
but wow,,, u guys on a lake? barely a rippell..
let see em in 6-8's
If you read his post, he didn't say 6-8 footers. He said waves over 5 feet.
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Old 03-06-2006 | 04:26 PM
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If you read his post, he didn't say 6-8 footers. He said waves over 5 feet.
now we got an apache thread splitting hairs..
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Old 03-06-2006 | 04:40 PM
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You're right Parnell, if the day gets hard enough we won't be out there and neither will you. You can't begin to tell me you actually run fast in 6-8 footers, it's just not possible. Oh yeah, #6's hold up much better than bravos no doubt!

Bobby not for anything but you know very well that my old man and me are always out there when it's ruff and you know that. just like when i went out with Randy ( wild) in his topgun when it was pouring rain and ruff as chit and you called me and said " we are going by the inside it's to ruff" right or wrong. so don;t say that people don;t go out there when it's ruff, cause that when we mostly go out

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Old 03-06-2006 | 04:44 PM
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now we got an apache thread splitting hairs..


Apaches really don't come alive until the seas are over 10 feet!!!!
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Old 03-06-2006 | 04:47 PM
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Apaches really don't come alive until the seas are over 10 feet!!!!
ah just like my inflatable
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Old 03-06-2006 | 04:53 PM
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Bobby not for anything but you know very well that my old man and me are always out there when it's ruff and you know that. just like when i went out with Randy ( wild) in his topgun when it was pouring rain and ruff as chit and you called me and said " we are going by the inside it's to ruff" right or wrong. so don;t say that people don;t go out there when it's ruff, cause that when we mostly go out

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Mike, not for nothing but I have only seen your Gun out there once as a pleasure boat. That was when you first bought it and it wasn't rough. Everytime I talk to Frank and ask him if he wants to go out for a run it's always broken.

Yes, we did tell you it was too rough that day. However, we had my mother on board who has a herniated disc in her back, my brother, and Bill's son who I don't think has been in a speed boat more than a hand full of times. Sometimes, you need to use your brain instead of your ego.

Now, if you want to go play one day let's go
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Old 03-06-2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cigarette38topgun
OK boys and girls. Two bad azz boats going head to head.....i love them both....Is Cigarette really number 1 when put up agianst the all mighty apache?
Seems like whenever the word "Apache" is mentioned things get a bit crazy..
The original question was a bit vague.
They both have good and bad points ..

Fountains are nothin to sneeze at iether but what happened to the dash ..aaaammm is that enough room for the stereo remote? Could they possibly get the gauges a little more centered behind the wheel , I think I can see the numbers on a couple of them

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Old 03-06-2006 | 05:04 PM
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41 Apache will run 6' + seas. And don't discount a non step Top Gun. I only ask about the twin step Cigarette's because I watched one struggleing in 4' seas, maybe he had mechanical trouble...I don't know.

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Old 03-06-2006 | 05:14 PM
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Fountains are nothin to sneeze at iether but what happened to the dash ..aaaammm is that enough room for the stereo remote? Could they possibly get the gauges a little more centered behind the wheel , I think I can see the numbers on a couple of them
The drivers dash is pretty sad so is the passenger side...Looks cheap ???

But the sucker runs 109 mph with twin 600's.

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Old 03-06-2006 | 05:23 PM
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41 Apache will run 6' + seas. And don't discount a non step Top Gun. I only ask about the twin step Cigarette's because I watched one struggleing in 4' seas, maybe he had mechanical trouble...I don't know.
Come on... A gun having problems with 4 ft seas?

Mechanical or driver or some other issue.
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Old 03-06-2006 | 05:26 PM
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Ya must have been a mechanical or a wuss
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Old 03-06-2006 | 05:59 PM
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so don;t say that people don;t go out there when it's ruff, cause that when we mostly go out

jr mike
Just like when a Surfer hears a storm coming....

The adrenaline gets pumpin' !

It's always better to go out in it then let it get slammed against the dock... No fun in that....
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Old 03-06-2006 | 06:12 PM
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Parn only goes out then it's rough like 4+, I know I have been with him or along side of him when it is rough, he prefers 6+. If it's flat he takes his Skater out, he's the only guy that I know that is not happy if it's calm out. Steve
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Old 03-06-2006 | 06:17 PM
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The drivers dash is pretty sad so is the passenger side...Looks cheap ???

But the sucker runs 109 mph with twin 600's.

prove it!!!!!
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Old 03-06-2006 | 06:21 PM
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Apaches really don't come alive until the seas are over 10 feet!!!!



so so correct!!! 10ft plus.

Can a fountain run in that and keep up/ stay together???
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Old 03-06-2006 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ApacheCarl
"Just don't race a straight bottom #6 boat in waves over 5 feet. I don't want you to get hurt"

This is what makes OffshoreOnly such a great community. Parnell's selfless concern for a fellow boater should be an example to all of us. I would type more, but I'm starting to tear up...............................
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Old 03-06-2006 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tomtbone1993
I have the Fountain What do you have to bring to the table?

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Old 03-06-2006 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky Strike Jr
You're right Parnell, if the day gets hard enough we won't be out there and neither will you. You can't begin to tell me you actually run fast in 6-8 footers, it's just not possible. Oh yeah, #6's hold up much better than bravos no doubt!
A debate that has raged on this board for ever is what constitutes 6-8's cause all water is very different and of course another debate is what is fast in rough water. Both legitmate points that never get resolved but you are very wrong about me not going out in them. That my friend is what I live for, sadly.
Also when I referred to the sixes I was not referring to 6's holding up better, that is a given. I was pointing out how much difference they make in big water. More stable and they stay hooked up so much better that any boat with them is going to run faster in rough water if the boat is the same. My top gun had bravos when I ordered it cause I couldn't afford sixes and now it has sixes and they are so much better that it's not even close to the same boat. The drives muscle the boat not the other way around. This is Nykamp and I in 4-6's last fall running 75 on Lake Michigan. No one was around to take a pic except the beach cam. Fun thread. NK
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