Outboard Performance Boat 30-32 Will It Sell?
 

I know of a Boat Company looking to get back into an Outboard application for a 30 to 32 ft boat, with Verado and Optimax being as good as you can get would there be a market? I can't disclose the company as of yet but I think it will hit a market. Once the boat becomes more of a reality I will disclose. They are figuring the boat will run in the mid 70s speed wise and the price will be much lower then a stern drive set up with less headaches. being there are not many boats that offer outboard application on a closed deck boat anymore most are now Center Consoles I figured I would ask the question?

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I would think so... sure! With the noise regs. and fuel costs being what they are, and O/B technology really stepping it up, they are hard to overlook when they fit a build. I am giving them serious consideration for my next go-round, it just makes boating that much more hassle-free - again, if the application fits. I can't see hanging 4 of them off the back of a Top-Gun, but... in the 30-foot range I bet they would work quiet nicely! ;)

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Why wouldn't it work is my thought. Don't get me wrong the sound of a nice big block is always beautiful....but the reality is that there is a niche in the market that is not being filled and it should be. I'm in marketing and I can tell you that if done right this would be a real money maker (business) and money saver (public) for a lot of people. The key in my opinion is keep it under 32 ft so that it can be powered reasonably by either 225s or all the way up to triple 300's. The KISS principal goes a long way in my book for an idea like this. No fancy graphics or paint schemes..just a well built hardcore v-bottom with a bracket and some outboards.

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I never understood why MORE builders don't have outboard powered performance v hulls. Personally, I like the idea of eggbeaters.

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The powerplay 33 did this well and i think its a great idea.
Open up the cockpit w/ a big u shape lounge w/ removable center table.
Two nice bolsters up front. or maybe a double bolster w/ a rear facing seat. Lots of seating, great entertaining.
Or could make it more simple w/ just a rear bench that drops outta the way, like tiara has, and throw 4 rod holders and you got a decent fish boat too. Twin 250s and cruise at 50mph would be a winner. And KISS, no steps.

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:D :D :D order me a new one frank :D :D

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Unless we are talking fishing boats it will not sell.

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Just wondering, what's your reasoning.?

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www.tuffmarine.com

twin ob or single i/o

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That 28 tuff is cool, but not what i had in mind.
I was thinking something w/ more freeboard.

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been looking for 32 foot twin ob with a canopy possible 3 or 4 seater for pokerruns that would be sweet also for possile racing not two many canopy ob v bottoms if any

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I had one (twin outboard Powerplay sportdeck) and it was REALLY hard to sell. I personally really liked the boat but here are the challenges:

1. It MUST do 70+ mph with twin outboards. I know this is not easy but anything slower just won't sell and going to triples is a stumbling block for many people. Triple anything equals triple trouble in alot of peoples minds.

2. It must ride decent: all that weight on the transom does not help the bow stay down much and so in bigger water they don't ride as well. Perhaps some long tabs would help make the boat FEEL longer in bigger water. This is another reason that the boat needs to be as much over 30 ft as possible.

3. Gotta cost alot less than big blocks.

4. Some people just cannot handle the looks. It's just not as sexy. I think the sexy look and the rumbling engines are what draws many people to this sport in the first place.

Having said all that, I would buy another twin outboard offshore boat if the quality was high, it did 70+ with twins and it rode well. I really liked the cockpit room and the reliability, but I have a family so my needs may be different than most.

Just my $0.02, I ain't no expert. Good luck.

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The only reason I had O/B's was the cost factor...If I had a choice something like that tuff 28 would be perfect. Everything out there has got so expensive. I think that over 70 mph is right on the money (jody165). I had the O/B's and yes I do miss the rumble of just 1 big block. Its hard to get a V to do over 70 with todays 4 cycle O/B's unless its a cat. Triples will be an insurane nightmare.

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Wow, that is a tough demand.
How about that Adrenaline? They seem pretty custom.
Or extreme may do it, but they are only 29ft.

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Ok here is a draft, the boat is fully painted over so you will not figure it out, this is a good freind of mine designing the boat so I am doing this person a favor, step hull light set up and this will be an eye catcher.
Please Don't bring up any other boat manafactures this is not a debate on whos boat is better! I just need input before we go foward with this undertaking and I am looking for my Offshore brothers to lend a helping hand.

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looks real nice i would like one in all white to start with should run well looks like it has nice long deck and good freeboard be interested bruce

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We are estimating the boat with twin 250s will run mid 70s, big k planes, nice cabin with enclosed head, sink, fridge, I know my choice would be Verados when you throttle them down the Superchargers have a sweet sound to them

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will it have deep freeboard? What price range is he targeting? I think there is definitely a market for a lower priced high quality O/B 32'er. But low price and high quality are the keys to it being successful and thats a stiff order.

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I still like it.

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Yes the freeboard will definetly be high and the price estimated will be in the low 100k area. most boats over 30ft are now running 120k and up. this is all speculation at the moment until the final drafts come out.

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..looks good Frank...similiar to a Sutphen... :cool:

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Ok here is one more without paint, Thanks everyone your input is helping.

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I think it looks pretty cool. Not a fan of the black fairing though. Just a plain white fairing that can be painted is more versatile IMO.

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Frank, you have one of the cockpit? It looked from the 1st pic to have a nice wrap around rear bench.

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Yes, white fairing for sure. Painting it black could just be an option for some buyers.

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i think the black fairing is just to define the pic

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I think one prblem with the concept is up until quite recently the high hp outboards (over 200hp) were very thirsty and had a short lifespan.......whats the life of these new OBs???

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Use this concept for a cockpit.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-9201.html

You have a wind shield and sit down with room for 5
and still have the ability to access the cabin from the cockpit.

Poker run look with a cabin and big bad black motors hanging
off the back and affordable. :D :cool: :evilb:

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I think there is a market for an OB offshore boat. Plus, w/ the new Merc Verados/ Optimax 300XS and Yammi anouncing a new 300 hp OB motor, there are several large OB motors to power a rig like your talking about.

I just ordered a new 30' Cmate that I'm going to power w/ dual Mercury 300X engines. I hope to see in the mid 80s with the rig. And yes, it will have 30" Dana tabs. It should be a fun boat!

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My last boat was a twin outboard set-up.
26 Sleekcraft Enforcer
225 Evinrudes on Gill brackets
It ran 70+ mph.
The beauty of the set-up was the enormous amount of cockpit room. It had Sit down front seats with wrap around back seating (horseshoe) with three inserts that would convert the rear seating to a huge sun lounge with plenty of storage under the seats for the inserts. (Just an idea to consider)

I think its a good idea and it would do well. And its more affordable than I/O's.

Good luck

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Me likeee! Wish I had the cockpit room and a step hull. A little more freeboard than my 29 scarab would be nice too! Much rather stand behind the boat and work on the motors than laying on top of the i/o engines in my jam packed bilge. Good luck !

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If it will run faster than similar sized I/O's than I don't care if it's got eggbeaters or not.

Look at what's selling now, faster is better and price and maintenance matter. Good quality and looks with speed and the right price point WILL sell. With insurance rates, that might be the way of the "in it for the sport" performance boater.

I'd have to consider it with Fla's insurance rates today.

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I have owned eight outboard boats, two were twins and one was a triple 30'. Go to a Poker Run in a O/B and they snicker at you. Been there, done that. A performance boat has to rumble. It's like asking a Harley rider to buy a rice rocket. Want more proof? Look at the prices of used 32 Skaters O/B vs. 32 Skater I/Os. Big difference. Very small market for large performance vee hull boat outboards. Make that boat a center console fishing boat and it will sell more units.

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When was the last time you saw a twin 250 horse I/O offshore boat?

Therin lies one of the problems. There is just so many horses you can get with the ob, and you are pretty much done. With I/O's, the only limit on power is your wallet.

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im a fan of the white fairing too. i think you have something there. i have a activator step bottom with ob now. real head turner, lot of people interested in this style as long as the price is right should be no problem. under 100 would get people interested good luck cant wait to see one finished

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Brad, not everyone does poker runs, and not everyone wants to go over 100.
To me the point of the OB is to open up the cockpit for more entertaining room. It would be quieter for conversations too.
I like the rumble of a hot I/O over an eggbeater, but the ob's have their place.

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True - however, for those of us that live up here north of the Mason-Dixon line and don't boat 12 mo out of the year, it's in part the $$$, but it's more the down time. Break a drive or blow a motor and you (still) have that down time, a lost weekend or limp home from a run... regardless of your check book balance. With the O/B's, yeah, you might not be doing 100 in a V but you could do 75-80 all day long and have a nice turn-key, low-maintenance package, just - splash - gas - and go. :)

They aren't for everyone but they are a good alternative...

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"If you build it, they will come" !!

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Better yet, do a 30-32 with twin step and twin O/B's and then do a 24-25 with single step and single O/B. Now you're talking!!

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Show of hands. Who owns a o/b vee hull over 25 feet that is not a fishing boat?