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Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
JC yep I forgot about that. Was that with the old sanctioning body, I forget there name that raced up north?
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Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
Originally Posted by FeverMike
JC yep I forgot about that. Was that with the old sanctioning body, I forget there name that raced up north?
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Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
Originally Posted by leviathan
I ask this question with the greatest respect.
Are these 'American' *World* Championships, or 'World' *World* Championships? |
Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
Originally Posted by Jassman
378k is great price, DEMO...but most are in the 550-650 price range. When you look at the dealers ad's , and then call thats the price that is given with 525's. My point is prices have gotten out of hand. It's immaterial if you can or cannot afford 1 mil. There is no more EXCLUSIVITY. I realize nobody pays retail. I like Cig, and really like OL, but cant justify the additional coin over a Nortech or Hustler. When the quality of these 4 are so close, other than the amount of paint. Just my observations. Jeff
But yes, boat prices are out of control. I think you have to commend Cig on doing the Spyders and trying to lower the prices on an awesome boat to meet more poeples income levels...smart. On the topic of "World" champion...Couldn't agree more. How are you going to be a "world" champion when offshore racing is BIGGER over seas than it is here and they can't even get their sh!t together to have all of the U.S. race groups race together....f*cking lame!!! :rolleyes: And I know the whole topic of World Champion on Cigarettes logo has been beaten to death around here but I respect what Arronow did to deserve that title and think he/the company deserves the recognition....Just like (can't believe I'm going to say this) I think Fountain deserves the recognition for what he's done in the sport too. But then again, his boats say nothing but "Fountain" on the side. |
Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
Originally Posted by thisistank
And I know the whole topic of World Champion on Cigarettes logo has been beaten to death around here but I respect what Arronow did to deserve that title and think he/the company deserves the recognition....Just like (can't believe I'm going to say this) I think Fountain deserves the recognition for what he's done in the sport too. But then again, his boats say nothing but "Fountain" on the side.
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Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
As far as race boats with REAL championships (most multipul) these boat brands come to mind first:
Fountain 1990's thru today Skater 1990's thru today Cigarette 1970's-1980's- lots of Championships back in the day, can't seem to beat Fountain today Apache 1980's- to bad this brand ended and nobody can keep the legacy going Scarab late 1980's thrus mid 1990's- to bad Wellcraft killed them |
Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
"BUT winning in P-Class is NOT a so called World Chapionship!"
Why not? |
Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
Lee, P-Class although regulated un-like the old L-Class (Local Class) but not fully inspected-regulated like the Pro Series was designed for people to try out offshore racing, race a boat that is not legal for the Pro Series and a place for manufactures to test products that are not yet legal in the Pro Series.
P-Class is desgined mostly for people to try out racing and then move up to a Pro Series class such as SVL, SV or SC and so forth. these are not my personal opinions but that is just what P-Class is all about. P-Class was put in place as a feeding ground to grow the sport. My personal opion is that the people in P-Class are having a lot of fun and P-Class has surely grown over the old Local Class' but it is not as professional as Super V for example. I feel P-Class racers take P-Class more serious than it really is. If racers do not move up from P-Class to a Pro Series Class then this is another reason the sport will not grow. |
Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
Originally Posted by FeverMike
Lee, P-Class although regulated un-like the old L-Class (Local Class) but not fully inspected-regulated like the Pro Series was designed for people to try out offshore racing, race a boat that is not legal for the Pro Series and a place for manufactures to test products that are not yet legal in the Pro Series.
P-Class is desgined mostly for people to try out racing and then move up to a Pro Series class such as SVL, SV or SC and so forth. these are not my personal opinions but that is just what P-Class is all about. P-Class was put in place as a feeding ground to grow the sport. My personal opion is that the people in P-Class are having a lot of fun and P-Class has surely grown over the old Local Class' but it is not as professional as Super V for example. I feel P-Class racers take P-Class more serious than it really is. If racers do not move up from P-Class to a Pro Series Class then this is another reason the sport will not grow. |
Re: Has Outterlimits ever won a world title???
In today's "Pay as you play" world of offshore "racing"......... even Bayliner could be a world champion.....
"Outlaw Harry Homeowner" Class. T2x |
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