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Shorgasm 05-22-2006 05:16 PM

How do you guys handle this..
 
We have a group of friends that all like to party and boat just like everyone here...BUT out of 7 close guys only 3 of us have boats.2 Have room to sleep others as well as our own chickas...I'm one of them now.Before I could play soo sorry my boat is too small for more than two...unless you have a vagina then the rules change of course!We are talking 3 straight days on the water now..

I have 2 couples on my boat...My buddy will have 3 people on his.By this I mean sleeping in the AC at night indoors.Bring food and beverage in excess for us..It adds up space wise not money wise.

This year two guys are gonna get hung out to dry..I feel bad but how do you guys approach this and not sound like a spoiled brat?

We all party well together but some of thes other guys need to pony up and buy a friggin boat!/......end-of-rant

CigDaze 05-22-2006 06:38 PM

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It's simple. No one wants a sausage party, Chicks take priority, they should understand. :drink: :D

When they buy a boat, they can join in on the fun.

Marginmn 05-22-2006 07:08 PM

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Can they borrow or rent a small runabout or pontoon for their home base and sleep on it at night?

If they complain that it cost to much then clue them in as to how much it cost to actually OWN THE DARN THING!!!

florida gator 05-22-2006 08:16 PM

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After they get left behind, take pics and show them. The rental of a house boat next year will seem like a bargain :evilb:

Shorgasm 05-22-2006 08:28 PM

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I try to include everyone but fun is better in numbers till it is time to get down to business ya know..

pullmytrigger 05-22-2006 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CigDaze
It's simple. No one wants a sausage party, Chicks take priority, they should understand. :drink: :D

When they buy a boat, they can join in on the fun.

bout' sums it up in my book.......

cbeastwood 05-22-2006 08:29 PM

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That conversation usually starts like this: "Um, you guys gots to go..." Hell, the only males I allow on my boat are those I've known for YEARS, and even then some of them have to ask permission each time they board.

Margin's right - they probably don't realize how much you have invested in your boats between the boat itself, fuel, insurance, slip fees, etc.

Gas or A$$, and I'm not into Johnny Cakes...

cuda 05-22-2006 09:01 PM

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Give them the boot. Sausage parties are only acceptable on Lake Champlain.

Airpacker 05-23-2006 07:05 AM

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Sausage Boys Race Team?????

Clay Washington 05-23-2006 07:20 AM

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The non-boating guys need to rent a houseboat as "basecamp".

Oh yeah... and bring two hot chicks each! :D

Byrdman 05-23-2006 07:43 AM

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Clay...nice pics... chicks are smokin.

pullmytrigger 05-23-2006 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Airpacker
Sausage Boys Race Team?????

THATS IT!!!!!!!!! :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

CigDaze 05-23-2006 08:45 AM

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Yep, Clay's got the right idea. :drink: :D

BAJA WILL 05-23-2006 09:38 AM

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This hits close to home for me, I have a group of friends about 10 of us who party. For Years I was the only one with a boat and damn near suppoeted everyone and their guests. I finally had enough, I flat told some of them to either start bringing hot girls with them or buy their own boat. I started givning some of them ads for great priced boats, two purchase boats and now they are in the same position I was in. At some point they need to step up and rent a boat or split the cost between them. :mad: :drink:

WILL

Jerry B 05-23-2006 10:05 AM

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Anyone that has owned a boat knows the cost involved.

My wife and I have good friends " husband and wife" That have been out on the two boats we have owned many times over the years. They have never offered a dime for gas. They have even been there and saw others chip in but not them. They dont make much money so I never pushed the issue. Now last year they won 2.6 Million in the Lottery. Do you think that changed. Now I try not to think about it. They bought a See Doo. OH BOY.
Not that I really want to ride it but I sure would like to burn all the gas out of it and then give it back but so far they have not offered it. If it werent for them I would never have met my wife and for that I am grateful and I would never want to jepordize our friendship.

Sorry, I just saw a place to vent.

Happey boating to all of you who know what it takes to love it.

Jerry.

cbeastwood 05-23-2006 10:43 AM

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You never realize how many friends you have until you own one (or more) of the following:

1) Boat, 2) Pool, 3) Pickup Truck

ratman 05-23-2006 01:03 PM

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jerry next time you go out, tell what you feel, that you never asked before cuz you knew the were a bit tight on coin, but now that you have some coin why dont you pitch in like everyone else is? if they have a problem with that they aren't worth callin friends!

Marginmn 05-23-2006 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ratman
jerry next time you go out, tell what you feel, that you never asked before cuz you knew the were a bit tight on coin, but now that you have some coin why dont you pitch in like everyone else is? if they have a problem with that they aren't worth callin friends!

What he said :cool:

Shorgasm 05-23-2006 01:28 PM

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Money is not the issue here...being comfy is.I'm going and don't care what it costs BUT you drink and eat you apy for your own **** or you get leftovers.N o long faces when T-bones are cooking...They do good on that aspect.They supply there alchohol and such BUT it the room thing that bothers me.

We all have such a good time and I would really hate to leave one of my friends out when another couple had something come up ya know!
Friday night has cleared up but that still leaves saturday nigt me with a full boat and my buddy also...****...I hate being the dick. :(

BAJA WILL 05-23-2006 01:35 PM

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Its not about them not pulling their weight, opps it actually is!!! I didn't mind until we got to our late 20's now 30, they can afford a boat they just choose not to because its easier/cheaper to ride on yours. I finally put my foot down, sorry but your heading for the melt down I had a couple years back. :(

You just need to tell them they need to buy or rent their own that you are not going to cramp yourself on the boat you pay for so they can ride for free.

WILL

Cash Bar 05-23-2006 06:03 PM

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All this is the reason I only allow 4 on my boat(including me) except for short "taxi" rides.

I am so sure of this that my next boat will probably be like the 42' PR Fountain or MTI and have 4 dedicated seats. I only allow my girl and another couple or her and two "friends" to come aboard. :D

And if it is another couple they better be good with docklines and a wash brush. :eek: :rolleyes:

RollWithIt 05-23-2006 06:08 PM

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Gotta agree with you guys... While I allow my male friends on the boat. Its understood that its their responsibility to round up the chicks and pick up the bar tab. I dont ask for boat money or gas money. And they pretty much take care of my bar tab year round. So it all works out.

Shorgasm 05-23-2006 06:47 PM

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Sheesh, I'm a sucker and invoted one of them to sleep on my boat for two nights and then he's on his own.

Audiofn 05-23-2006 08:26 PM

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Sounds to me like you need a bigger boat :evilb: :evilb:

Dregsz 05-24-2006 02:14 AM

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I invited a buddy from college I still hang w every now and then, out on the boat for a river bash this weekend.
It's a dude ranch any way you slice it, wife and kid is going to her moms etc, just me and the boys, heck, I'm planning to bring the dogs even, (strip of carpet over the rear seat).

So I invited him and I told him straight up, it takes $100 for 1/2 gas, no if ands or buts. Gas grass or ass, and for him, It's only gas. (that's nothing for 2 days of boating, you guys know...).
Oh the pissin and moaning It still hasn't stopped.
But even with the complaining I never heard that he will pony up, makes mee feel uncomfortable and kinda used

Now this is a fairly big drinkin, titty flashin, sand bar deal, but hell, I'm 42 years old, I like a few beers in the sun and hard liqour on the dock, but this guy is takin his 1 year chip from AA, (minus a few little slips and a DUI last month, his 3rd in 2 years)
I don't have a problem with him or anyone else not drinkin and I have lots of friends that don't drink, and don't have an issue if I drink in moderation, but this guy sez, "I'm bringing a couple of cases of beer, there aint no way I'm going to a big river party with a bunch of drinking going on and not drinking beer"

So I'm starting to think, (This guy is too f-cked up, college roomate or not, I'm cutting him loose.) I'd have a much more enjoyable weekend without him there.
This guy has so many issues I don't even want to begin to deal.

I was going to call and tell him my parts didn't come in and then got the call tonight that my parts really didn't come in and the forcast is for rain anyway.

So maybe I'll just stay home and drink alone

Shorgasm 05-24-2006 10:54 AM

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We all get along great..of course there is the usual drama between anyone but we all drink and party togehter so we mix well..This is a party weekend for sure so the more people the better...I mean chip in for gas if ya want OR buy more supplies.I'm gonna always bring more than I need everytime..It costs ME to goout there so that is what I plan for..don't start drinking my **** when your runs out...then again.That has never happened with this crew.

I just like for everyone to be in on the action ya know...just don't make me uncomfortable.If I wanna walk in the cabin and walk around with my junk hanging out then I will.....we find some "fun" people to play with then scram!

I think it comes down to this...If your a guy you should have your own boat if you wanna play on this level...If you are a girl "welcome aboard".rules to be followed though! :evilb:

BAJA WILL 05-24-2006 11:05 AM

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As I stated before lots of "friends" wil continue to ride for free until you stop it. In my case 30yr is old enough to buy your own boat!!!! My two friends that purchased theirs didn't until I put my foot down. When everyone knows you as the great fun host its hard to say no. but when ther good time takes away from yours is when you need to say NO.

WILL :drink:

Wobble 05-24-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dregsz
I invited a buddy from college I still hang w every now and then, out on the boat for a river bash this weekend.
It's a dude ranch any way you slice it, wife and kid is going to her moms etc, just me and the boys, heck, I'm planning to bring the dogs even, (strip of carpet over the rear seat).

So I invited him and I told him straight up, it takes $100 for 1/2 gas, no if ands or buts. Gas grass or ass, and for him, It's only gas. (that's nothing for 2 days of boating, you guys know...).
Oh the pissin and moaning It still hasn't stopped.
But even with the complaining I never heard that he will pony up, makes mee feel uncomfortable and kinda used

Now this is a fairly big drinkin, titty flashin, sand bar deal, but hell, I'm 42 years old, I like a few beers in the sun and hard liqour on the dock, but this guy is takin his 1 year chip from AA, (minus a few little slips and a DUI last month, his 3rd in 2 years)
I don't have a problem with him or anyone else not drinkin and I have lots of friends that don't drink, and don't have an issue if I drink in moderation, but this guy sez, "I'm bringing a couple of cases of beer, there aint no way I'm going to a big river party with a bunch of drinking going on and not drinking beer"

So I'm starting to think, (This guy is too f-cked up, college roomate or not, I'm cutting him loose.) I'd have a much more enjoyable weekend without him there.
This guy has so many issues I don't even want to begin to deal.

I was going to call and tell him my parts didn't come in and then got the call tonight that my parts really didn't come in and the forcast is for rain anyway.

So maybe I'll just stay home and drink alone

you will get the blame if he falls off the wagon, it's his problem, part off the cure is not putting yourself in the wrong type of situation.

This guy has already proven that he wont stop at the bar, he may well keep on drinking after he leaves your boat and then get in a car to go buy more.

Not your problem, but you don't want that on your conscience either.

I'd be tempted to tell him exactly why he isn't going, he has already proved he can be a menace to society

Shorgasm 05-24-2006 11:14 AM

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My buddy is at that point all ready...I invite "fun couples"....Tammy has other friends that all wanna go but ya pick the more open ones..We have made this mistake once before..I have no problems with my boys.They keep an eye on my ****. :cool:

Shorgasm 05-24-2006 11:16 AM

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We have friends like that also...never no when to back off of the booze.It's no fun if ya get sick..but it's no fun if you can remember.Fine line there somewhere

Ironmanwb 05-24-2006 01:00 PM

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I have had the same problem for years with boat my boat and lake house. Always people there to use and abuse but never to help put the cottages away, wax the boat or put gas in it.

As of last summer I simply don't take people anymore. I take who I want when and where.

My problem was somewhat the same as yours. I had no issues with the money thing or supplies but, it did pi$$ me off when people were trying to dictate when we would leave the dock, or what time they had to be home ect. I got to a point where I simply said this is what we are doing and if you want to come get in, sit down, shut up and have a good time.

The money thing to me was not about the actual dollar amount but simply the principle of the thing. Now I am much tighter on cash ( I am building a house) so I simply tell people how much it is going to cost..............you should see their faces..........Suddenly going out on my boat isn't as fun for them.

Last year I ran a couple of poker runs but only one with friends and they about SH!t when I asked for money

PR Cost 350 entry
Dock 50
gas 350
supplies 100

850/4 215 each..........


Once they started to b!tch and tried to make me feel bad for having them pay I explained it this way

boat 90,000
Dock 1,700
Insur 5,856
Stor 1, 800
repair 1,000

10, 356 per year just to own it not including the gas to run it :eek: :eek: :eek:

Then they understood but looked at me like " well if you can afford that then you can afford to take me"

Needless to say very few of my friends are invited to come onto my boat anymore................

I don't know where this whole thing is going I guess I just needed to vent as well...............

Dean Ferry 05-24-2006 01:11 PM

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I guess that's why I invite NO BODY, except my family and a few close friends. And my close friends always step up @ the gas pump! I guess I'm lucky that way! :drink:
Dean

BY U BOY 05-24-2006 01:47 PM

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No Pay No Play. I Leave The Dock On My Time Not Your Time. I Have A Friend That I Grew Up With, We Have Know Each Other About 20yrs Now And He Has No Problem Paying For Gas When I Take Him Fishing. But On The Go Fast He Thinks That He Does Not Have To Pay And On Top Of That He Invites Several People To Go On My Boat Wtf. He Just Got His Own Boat And Since My Engine Is Apart I Go With Him And I Always Forget My Wallet In The Car.

JLAY 05-24-2006 03:51 PM

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I learned my lesson last 4th of july, my usual friend and his girl comes but the wife wants to invite her friend and husband too. no problem. my buddy always pitches in w/ gas and is a big help around the dock, not to mention his girl is a hot freak! :D Well the wife's friend and husband come also but she also brings her brother. WTF? :mad: seven people in a 26' boat is tight. Go to the sand bar to hang out for a while then planned on going to jagers to eat. The brother drinks to much and we wind up bringing everyone back aznd cutting the day short. My balls werem so swollen when i got home i wanted to beat my dog. From then on i say i dont know what time im leaving or coming back just be at the house for this time.

Jerry B 05-24-2006 04:00 PM

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I am usually happy to take people on my boaat for a ride. I enjoy sharing the fun. But when they get to be regulars the courteous thing to do is at least offer to pay for some of the gas. I think some people just arent brought up right to understand this. The truth is my wife and I would have went with or without passengers so nearly the same fuel burned. We dont have to depend on others pockets to run our boat nor do most boat owners, But it is nice when someone offers to help out. After all it's like Ironmanwb stated in so many words. Maybe they would like to make a few of the boat paymens and a few of the entry fees and then toss in a new prop or two and find out what comes along with owning a boat. Maybe a bill or two for gas is cheep after all.

Owning a boat is expensive. During the winter when mine is in storage I wonder why we have so much invested. However when out on the lake it never crosses my mind.

The folks that truly love boating are a lucky bunch. Oh I know we have to bi*** sometimes but when the day comes that I cant get out on our boat you may as well bury me.

Let's hit the lake!!!!

Jerry.

Clay Washington 05-24-2006 04:10 PM

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I am totally confused! :(

I never ask the "Claymates" to pay for gas. All I ask them to bring is food and tunes. I provide the boat, the gas, and the beer. If they want hard liquor, they bring some. :cool:

Single guys are never invited. Hell, I don't even have any "single guy" friends. All of my "married guy" friends have boats! :D

Sometimes one of the Claymates want to bring out a guy, but it's rare. In order to be a "Claymates" you can't be married or have a boyfriend. :p

This weekend I will have two guys (including me) and five girls. I like those odds. :evilb:

Clay Washington 05-24-2006 04:15 PM

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I'm taking this one for a Harley ride on Thursday evening! :cool:

http://myspace-128.vo.llnwd.net/0071...10980128_l.jpg

dykstra 05-24-2006 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
I am totally confused! :(

I never ask the "Claymates" to pay for gas. All I ask them to bring is food and tunes. I provide the boat, the gas, and the beer. If they want hard liquor, they bring some. :cool:

Single guys are never invited. Hell, I don't even have any "single guy" friends. All of my "married guy" friends have boats! :D

Sometimes one of the Claymates want to bring out a guy, but it's rare. In order to be a "Claymates" you can't be married or have a boyfriend. :p

This weekend I will have two guys (including me) and five girls. I like those odds. :evilb:


You da man!

Clay Washington 05-24-2006 04:35 PM

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some of these girls will be on my boat this weekend...

http://myspace-045.vo.llnwd.net/0073...34182045_l.jpg

Wild 05-24-2006 04:46 PM

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Get a sticker and put it on the cabin door that reads

"Gas, Grass, or Ass, nobody rides for free"

They will get the point, especially if they choose the last one - pun intended

Wild


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