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sakoutis3 06-23-2006 03:18 PM

If Fountains are so good?
 
Then why are there 181 of them for sale in the classifieds. Double the next closest brand? :eek: I can see you guys love em so much you just can't wait to get rid of them. :drink:

Airpacker 06-23-2006 03:28 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
ouch :evilb:

Katapult 06-23-2006 03:28 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
How Many of Fountains have been produced ?

Semper Fi 06-23-2006 03:30 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
Then why are there 181 of them for sale in the classifieds. Double the next closest brand? :eek: I can see you guys love em so much you just can't wait to get rid of them. :drink:

That is a ______comment. To truely make your point, you would have to compare how many boats they build a year. If Fountain sells 200 boats a year and there are 100 boats for sale........it's no different than if Cigarette built 100 boats a year and 50 were for sale...right?

Fountain produces more boats than alot of manufacturers out there, so it's only normal they may have more boats for sale.Every manufacturer produces different numbers, so you need to have legitimate numbers to make your statement true.. Just my .02

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 03:36 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
Whats not legitamate about my numbers? Go to the classified section youself and read it. Its a simple observation made about the OSO classifieds only. Those numbers speak for themselves. I can't fabricate them. :cool:

Bottomfeeder 06-23-2006 03:42 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
Whats not legitamate about my numbers? Go to the classified section youself and read it. Its a simple observation made about the OSO classifieds only. Those numbers speak for themselves. I can't fabricate them. :cool:

True, theres a lot of Fountains for sale, there projection for new builds this year are 500 and they've built how many over the years? lets compare apples to apples :D

Craney 06-23-2006 03:54 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
I would think there are more Bajas produced then Fountains.There are 88 Bajas for sale now.

jryan26 06-23-2006 03:54 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
Alot of people buy them

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 03:56 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by Bottomfeeder
True, theres a lot of Fountains for sale, there projection for new builds this year are 500 and they've built how many over the years? lets compare apples to apples :D


If that production number is true then its really surprising that half a years production is for sale just here on OSO. Why would so many people want sell such "great boats" .

blume 06-23-2006 03:58 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
Then why are there 181 of them for sale in the classifieds. Double the next closest brand? :eek: I can see you guys love em so much you just can't wait to get rid of them. :drink:

Man you guy's kill me. I will make it easy for you to understand. Fountain builds about 550 to 600 boats a yr.
Cigarette builds about 85 to 100 boats a yr.
Outerlimits builds about 22 to 24 boats a yr.
MTI builds about 17 to 20 boats a yr.
Skater builds about 28 to 34 boats a yr.
So, use this to see who has the biggest % of boats for sale.
30% of Fountain's yearly production is for sale.
100% of Cigarette's yearly production is for sale.
200% of OL's yearly production is for sale.
100% of MTI's yearly production is for sale.
155% of Skater's yearly production is for sale.
Think about this???????and answer your own BS.

spk1 06-23-2006 04:08 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
Better Question is out of all those fountain boats for sale, how many are just upgrading to a better fountain? :cool:

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 04:09 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
Or how many are bailing out to buy a better brand?

pachangalpina 06-23-2006 04:18 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
You can also look at like this:

Most of the Outerlimits listed are 2000 or newer and @ 25 a year that is 175 boats and 39 are listed for sale.

Most of the Fountains listed are 1990 or newer and at 500 a year, that is 8500 boats and 180 are listed for sale.

22.3% vs 2.1% Even if you figure the Fountain production for that period was only 250 per year that is only 4.2%

:cool:

Shore Thing 06-23-2006 04:19 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
I'm in no way a fountain fan. Not that there's anything wrong with them, they just aren't for me. But I don't see a lot of the fountain owners complaining about them on here. They mostly seem like proud boat owners like they should be. Dollar for dollar, i think they are a good quality boat with something to offer for people who are attracted to them. You know people who wear a lot of gold and like to pretend they are in the mafia. (j/k)

Seriously though, Reggie publicized a statement that is debatable, and I understand debating that. (I think he was wrong to make those statements) But I don't think that statement deserves all the fountain bashing that it has brought on.

just my .02

I know i know, next week I'll make a beak joke and everyone will repost this to me.

Panther 06-23-2006 04:20 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
:argue: :blaster: :fish: :fish: :rolleyes:

jryan26 06-23-2006 04:22 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by pachangalpina
You can also look at like this:

Most of the Outerlimits listed are 2000 or newer and @ 25 a year that is 175 boats and 39 are listed for sale.

Most of the Fountains listed are 1990 or newer and at 500 a year, that is 8500 boats and 180 are listed for sale.

22.3% vs 2.1% Even if you figure the Fountain production for that period was only 250 per year that is only 4.2%

:cool:


Damn pachangalpina, you are quick with the math!

tomtbone1993 06-23-2006 04:34 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
Or how many are bailing out to buy a better brand?



so do you own a Outerlimints????


If so how can you afford it??? you are having a very hard time with simple math :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



if you don't then your are just a tool :rolleyes:

rush 06-23-2006 04:38 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by spk1
Better Question is out of all those fountain boats for sale, how many are just upgrading to a better fountain? :cool:

I'am on my 3rd and will step up again, when I get the balz to go to the bank.

mr_velocity 06-23-2006 04:39 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
If that production number is true then its really surprising that half a years production is for sale just here on OSO. Why would so many people want sell such "great boats" .

Sorry man, if you look at the numbers built vs the number forsale percentage wise there are a lot more OLs for sale.

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 04:43 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
Yes I own an Outer Limits and I can afford it just fine thank you for your concern. I'm not the one changing numbers just observing them.

blume 06-23-2006 04:43 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by TRICK
Simple math as pointed out above...... :rolleyes:

Not to mention the amount of years they've been produced as opposed to say your Outerlimits.

Lotta hating going on.....

Love you FRED, your new boat sure looks good.

jryan26 06-23-2006 04:44 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
He is going to delete this thread!

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 04:44 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by rush
I'am on my 3rd and will step up again, when I get the balz to go to the bank.


Thats pretty funny I know what you mean.

jryan26 06-23-2006 04:45 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by blume
Man you guy's kill me. I will make it easy for you to understand. Fountain builds about 550 to 600 boats a yr.
Cigarette builds about 85 to 100 boats a yr.
Outerlimits builds about 22 to 24 boats a yr.
MTI builds about 17 to 20 boats a yr.
Skater builds about 28 to 34 boats a yr.
So, use this to see who has the biggest % of boats for sale.
30% of Fountain's yearly production is for sale.
100% of Cigarette's yearly production is for sale.
200% of OL's yearly production is for sale.
100% of MTI's yearly production is for sale.
155% of Skater's yearly production is for sale.
Think about this???????and answer your own BS.

:eek:

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 04:54 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by jryan26
He is going to delete this thread!


Who is he? Reggie? :p

CAP071 06-23-2006 04:56 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
OH BOY :eek:

tomtbone1993 06-23-2006 04:57 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
Yes I own an Outer Limits and I can afford it just fine thank you for your concern. I'm not the one changing numbers just observing them.



the numbers speak for themselves...............


BTW You can't shoot from the hip with OSO....they will get you evry time

rush 06-23-2006 04:58 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
Thats pretty funny I know what you mean.

Last time he laughed and said "you always say its a great deal" but he always gives me the money, I love my banker, Its like I just had sex when I leave the bank!

Cash Bar 06-23-2006 05:05 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
Baja projects 1000 units sold a year and still only 88 for sale.

Does that make them the BEST boat out there by your calculations.... :rolleyes:

Blume, my brother, doesn't Fountain build only like 80-100 POWERBOATS a year? Total sales includes the cruisers and CC's, does it not?

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 05:11 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by CASH BAR
Baja projects 1000 units sold a year and still only 88 for sale.

Does that make them the BEST boat out there by your calculations.... :rolleyes:

Blume, my brother, doesn't Fountain build only like 80-100 POWERBOATS a year? Total sales includes the cruisers and CC's, does it not?


Like I said I'm not changing numbers just making an observation. :cool:

pachangalpina 06-23-2006 05:15 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
1990 - present @ 100 per year = 1700

That is still only 10.5%

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 05:19 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by pachangalpina
1990 - present @ 100 per year = 1700

That is still only 10.5%


Percentages aren't my strong piont but 181 out of 1700 is more like 9%

Cash Bar 06-23-2006 05:20 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by pachangalpina
1990 - present @ 100 per year = 1700

That is still only 10.5%

But you compared OL from 2000 'til now for your percentages.

How about comparing 2000 'til now Fountains?

Better yet, how about using Boattrader.com as part of your calcs.............I'll wait. :rolleyes:

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 05:22 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
I think the prodution numbers here have changed faster than Reggie's speed record. :evilb:

sakoutis3 06-23-2006 05:30 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
Hey Fountain guys good news the boats for sale just dropped from 181 to 180. Somebody is a happy new beak boat owner . :D

pachangalpina 06-23-2006 05:33 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
Percentages aren't my strong piont but 181 out of 1700 is more like 9%


:eek:

Panther 06-23-2006 05:35 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
Hey Fountain guys good news the boats for sale just dropped from 181 to 180. Somebody is a happy new beak boat owner . :D

Better not let Jimmy hear ya talkin the smack. :eek:

After all his beak boat is faster than yours! :evilb:

blume 06-23-2006 05:35 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by sakoutis3
I think the prodution numbers here have changed faster than Reggie's speed record. :evilb:

call any of the manufacturers and check my numbers.....I put them up there and they have not changed.

Strip Poker 388 06-23-2006 05:36 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 
I would think that most of the outerlimits were for sale just after they bought them,Demand I guess.I know of a few MTI's also


You all act like its winter ??? :eek:

Panther 06-23-2006 05:38 PM

Re: If Fountains are so good?
 

Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
I would think that most of the outerlimits were for sale just after they bought them,Demand I guess.I know of a few MTI's also


You all act like its winter ??? :eek:

Those OL guys are on the 1 yr "lease" program I guess... :rolleyes: Maybe they all have A.D.D. cause they go thru boats faster than I can't change my underwear. :drink:


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