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Strip Poker 388 07-13-2006 12:22 AM

42 Fountain Bravo 1 Broke in Half
 
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This is a pick of My buddys 42 Fountain. He said he thinks he hit something :eek: There is not a mark on the bottom of the hull or any damage to the other skeg or prop.Some of the studs are sheered off and pulled out.I bet he could of stoped and walked over and picked up the lower :eek:

He said he was coming off plane in Joes Bayou,Destin,FL




What ya think he hit????? :rolleyes:

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Strip Poker 388 07-13-2006 12:23 AM

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:eek:


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2112 07-13-2006 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388




What ya think he hit????? :rolleyes:

A partially submerged log

jhiguy377 07-13-2006 12:31 AM

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I guess you're saying that it happened while trailering; if so going around a corner and hitting a center median or curb would explain it - no damage to trailer, hull or other drive. Also the turning velocity of the drive with the axle(s) being the pivot point imparts a lot more force to what's being pivoted (the drive). Keep us posted. -Jeff

Back4More 07-13-2006 12:38 AM

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:( maybe a mine...

Strip Poker 388 07-13-2006 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jhiguy377
I guess you're saying that it happened while trailering; if so going around a corner and hitting a center median or curb would explain it - no damage to trailer, hull or other drive. Also the turning velocity of the drive with the axle(s) being the pivot point imparts a lot more force to what's being pivoted (the drive). Keep us posted. -Jeff

Nope :eek: in the water comming off plane

Sydwayz 07-13-2006 12:52 AM

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Hey, save that rear annode. Those fookers are expensive!! :D

Outdrive1 07-13-2006 12:56 AM

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wow. :eek: :eek: :eek:

aquaholics454 07-13-2006 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BADKACHINA
wow. :eek: :eek: :eek:

You can say that again..... :eek:

cig1988 07-13-2006 03:39 AM

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I'd say a manatee

boatman22 07-13-2006 04:40 AM

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Well at least I'm not the only one that brakes off outdrives.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-13-2006 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cig1988
I'd say a manatee

NO, MUST HAVE HIT A CAT!

The cat killer business can be expensive.

SKRAMER 07-13-2006 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cig1988
I'd say a manatee

I think the rest of the drive is probably still in the manatees back. :eek:

GLH 07-13-2006 07:23 AM

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Ouchhhhh!

Airpacker 07-13-2006 07:29 AM

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Now that's a shorty ! :evilb:

GOODT 07-13-2006 07:39 AM

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wow ive seen some bad hits but never THAT bad

SCRAPMAN1 07-13-2006 07:44 AM

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Did He Feel Any Vibration Or Anything Out Of The Ordinary Before This Happened?

bobkatz 07-13-2006 08:58 AM

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Does that right water pickup have the end curled up?

Pantera1 07-13-2006 09:02 AM

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Im surprised it didnt come off at the gimbal ring, that seems to be the weakest point.. never seen one shear off at the upper/lower joint :eek: :eek:

Dock Holiday 07-13-2006 09:31 AM

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Ain't never seen anything like that before.

Well Rob, go ahead and tell us what happened.

cbeastwood 07-13-2006 10:40 AM

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I'm no expert but I think that'll buff out.

Would something like that begin to flood the engine compartment or is there still a sufficient seal around the (?) gimbal?

SCARABJ 07-13-2006 10:44 AM

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lower gear case blew up taking the whole lower with it??

Panther 07-13-2006 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pantera1
Im surprised it didnt come off at the gimbal ring, that seems to be the weakest point.. never seen one shear off at the upper/lower joint :eek: :eek:

I've only see this happen 2 other times in person. First time my old boss hit a 55 gallon drum, it ripped the lower right off.... 90% of the parts in the lower were still good.

The other one that I worked on had Alpha's. The guy was loaded and was running 30 mph or so and hit a submerged sea wall. :eek: The guy said he felt the clunk and turned around, only to see the lower unit flying thru the air like a boomerang.

The next day I go down to the dock to have a look at it. At first I look in the water and can see the upper unit but due to mercky water I can't see any deeper. I start it up and shift back and forth..nothing... Then I stuck my arm in the water and felt down lower only to find out that the drive was sheered off 2-3 inches ABOVE the cavitation plate. The only thing left on the drive was the upper gear set... :eek:

After repairing I hung the upper up on the wall! :cool:

Mr Gadgets 07-13-2006 12:51 PM

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Years ago I read about a record run on a river.. St Louis to New Orleans, I believe. They made grea time except when they hit an old submerged concrete wall.. I guess they sheared the lower right of one of the outboads and they are suppose to kick up.. so

What ever it was, IT probably didnt move! Kinda like my first encounter with a bulkhead on one of USN's big steel boats and not ducking my head enough to get thru the hatchway... That is one thing I remember.. it didnt move..

Dick

Strip Poker 388 07-13-2006 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
Ain't never seen anything like that before.

Well Rob, go ahead and tell us what happened.


He said he was just commimg off plane and there was a bang :eek: The ramp where we were taking the boat out is a very narrow inlet ,I figure he was out of the channel.I bet it had to be concrete..

boatman22 did it take on water ?:eek:

Strip Poker 388 07-13-2006 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SCRAPMAN1
Did He Feel Any Vibration Or Anything Out Of The Ordinary Before This Happened?

He had lost a prop blade the day before and kept running it like that ,He said it would vibrate getting on plane but wasn't to bad up and running :rolleyes: . He goes to the wood getting it on plane :eek: The boat is hard to get on plane normally.

The only other time I've seen them shear off like this is from a spin out/side load .But there is 2 separate Pisces of the lower still on the upper

satisfactionII 07-13-2006 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
NO, MUST HAVE HIT A CAT!

The cat killer business can be expensive.


:cool: :drink: :evilb:

Steamin Rice 07-13-2006 02:56 PM

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Looks like the skeg monster got him.. :drink:

MitchStellin 07-13-2006 03:16 PM

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Well, there ya go, a thrown blade will kill that drive in a quick minute, the vibration is what did it. Now that was no too smart, even a ding in the prop needs to be fixed. The harmonics at speed will slowly loosen things and kill the drive.

Bobthebuilder 07-13-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GOODT
wow ive seen some bad hits but never THAT bad

How bout this one, then ! My first 50 Nor Tech exactly 3 yrs ago. It was in a part of Georgian Bay called the 30,000 Islands. While there are that many above the surface, there are 100 times that lurking just below. Happened in an area that I had passed thru many times before. Was travelling at minimum planning speed, watching chart plotter, chart in hand, had my eye on the bouy and BAM ! :eek: No hull damage. Within a minute of it happening a local tow boat idled over and asked " may we help you?" For a long time I was suspicious that someone (read towboat) had moved a bouy but may have been just my unwillingness to admit I screwed up. As you can see from the pics I still cruise those waters in my current Nor Tech. No problem since. It is just too beautiful to stay away. :D
btb

Panther 07-13-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobthebuilder
How bout this one, then ! My first 50 Nor Tech exactly 3 yrs ago. It was in a part of Georgian Bay called the 30,000 Islands. While there are that many above the surface, there are 100 times that lurking just below. Happened in an area that I had passed thru many times before. Was travelling at minimum planning speed, watching chart plotter, chart in hand, had my eye on the bouy and BAM ! :eek: No hull damage. Within a minute of it happening a local tow boat idled over and asked " may we help you?" For a long time I was suspicious that someone (read towboat) had moved a bouy but may have been just my unwillingness to admit I screwed up. As you can see from the pics I still cruise those waters in my current Nor Tech. No problem since. It is just too beautiful to stay away. :D
btb

Wow, that's what ya call a BAD DAY! :eek:

Strip Poker 388 07-13-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobthebuilder
How bout this one, then ! My first 50 Nor Tech exactly 3 yrs ago. It was in a part of Georgian Bay called the 30,000 Islands. While there are that many above the surface, there are 100 times that lurking just below. Happened in an area that I had passed thru many times before. Was travelling at minimum planning speed, watching chart plotter, chart in hand, had my eye on the bouy and BAM ! :eek: No hull damage. Within a minute of it happening a local tow boat idled over and asked " may we help you?" For a long time I was suspicious that someone (read towboat) had moved a bouy but may have been just my unwillingness to admit I screwed up. As you can see from the pics I still cruise those waters in my current Nor Tech. No problem since. It is just too beautiful to stay away. :D
btb


Ouch ,that hurts even to look at :eek:Kinda like watching eye surgery.... Bob you won the prize :eek:


You still running B-Max's???

Rob :D

Panther 07-13-2006 07:36 PM

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I'd say that was at least a $45K mistake... :eek: :eek:

Hopefully you had insurance.

Hydrocruiser 07-13-2006 07:44 PM

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...looks fine to me..always complaining... :D

Bobthebuilder 07-13-2006 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
Ouch ,that hurts even to look at :eek:Kinda like watching eye surgery.... Bob you won the prize :eek:


You still running B-Max's???

Rob :D

No B Max after that. When I had my current NT built I spec'ed out No. 6 drives. That boat originally had bravo's on and I blew up lots of those - kinda disposable like you know, then I went to XR's and chewed up a bunch of them, then went to B Max and killed all three of those on the rock as you can see. My driving is way too agressive for that light stuff and now the new boat with the no. 6's are standing up ok.
I think I hold some kind of record for number of blown drives in the 18 months I owned that boat but that is a whole other story ! LOL :D

Bobthebuilder 07-13-2006 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther
I'd say that was at least a $45K mistake... :eek: :eek:

Hopefully you had insurance.

Close. $50K and insurance paid. Or maybe I should say I am still paying in the form of higher premiums. :rolleyes:
Bob

boatman22 07-13-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
He said he was just commimg off plane and there was a bang :eek: The ramp where we were taking the boat out is a very narrow inlet ,I figure he was out of the channel.I bet it had to be concrete..

boatman22 did it take on water ?:eek:

Yea it did. i got it to a ramp and water got to the motors. gen set was under water. Got the motors out and apart with no damage. But now i have bigger motors to go back in..... :eek:

JnT 07-13-2006 10:05 PM

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I almost hit a piling in my fish boat after a storm. The piling was floating just under the surface but still drifting. The barnacles and crud on the lower end kept it in a near upright position just inches under the surface.

thedonz 07-13-2006 10:18 PM

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I bet that the vibration from the bad prop did it. I've seen that happen before. I was suspecting that to be the case as i read the thread and confirmed my suspicion when Strip reported the prop problem.

MitchStellin 07-14-2006 04:34 AM

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We have a lot of dredging out in the big lake (MI) sometimes the pipes break free, are not marked will or just plain driver error but these 3ft dia. pipes that are 6"s thick can clear your transom in a heartbeat :eek: It happens every year at least once a year but can be often if one breaks free after a storm. One time a tool overloaded a barge with 8ft logs, over 1000 of them. His barge capsized in a storm and they all went into lake MI near Leland and Frankfort, a big patch. These were just floating and bobbing on the surface, like a deadhead. Warnings went out but it was impossible to avoid them. I am sure the damage from them were huge.


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