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Prob a re post .But ck out the boat cutting in front of a coast guard boat.How can you drive a boat and not pay attention :( Even on my river here I looking behind me all the time seeing if someone is trying to pass :rolleyes:


http://www.zippyvideos.com/4120462903949636/speedboat/

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duuuuh :rolleyes:

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Granted, the guys in the small boat are idiots. But, It seems like the CG boat could of avoided that collision??

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Uhhhhh...the idiot award goes to the captain of the CG boat not the other guy. And he did not "cut off" the CG boat. That was a crossing situation and the CG boat was the give-way vessel. The other guy was the stand-on vessel..... The CG boat was in the wrong....rule 15.....

"When two power-driven vessels are crossing so as to involve risk of collision, the vessel which has the other on her own starboard side shall keep out of the way and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid crossing ahead of the other vessel."

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Dave you are correct. there is another video of a CG boat floating around where they were actually trying to stop someone and they ended up colliding with them. Was very similar to this video, only difference was they were trying to do an on water stop. The CG was found negligible as they didn't observe the rules of the road.

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not very bright

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HOLY $Ħ!Ŧ

retarted people.

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I think they are both to blame for not paying attention! :rolleyes:

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EXACTLY

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[QUOTE=Dave M]Granted, the guys in the small boat are idiots. But, It seems like the CG boat could of avoided that collision??[/QUO
That was my thought also!? :rolleyes:

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Both captains need to call Tres

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yeap both should call TRES :rolleyes:

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What he said!

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Yup, I would be shopping for my new Cigarette after I got finished with the CG in court. Violated their own rules of the road....

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looks to me like they both were at fault ever heard of falling to reduce speed to avoid a accident

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regardless of the rules of the road it is every captains duty to avoid a collision if possible, the CG captain needs some more training or something, all he had to do was slow down it was obvious the other boat didn't see him.

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I was tied up at the Riverside bar recently, as I walked down the dock to check my lines, here came one of those rigid/inflatable CG boats not 20" off the end of the docks just below a plane looking at the boats tied up (I guess). His wake caused all the boats to slam against the docks 3-5 times hard.

I just about busted a gut keeping mine off the pilings. I knew if I cussed them out I would be more than the usual target next time out.

Unfortunately they seem to be running training missions for newbie weekend warriors up our river this year :(

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That's exactly what I thought when I saw it - the small boat was the stand-on vessel. Bad Coastie, no donut!

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The CG boat had the right away as it's responding to an emergency situation . It states at the start of the vid that it was responding to a vessel in peril. But the first rule is to avoid a collision . Hailing the small boat was pissin' in the wind as they obviously didn't hear them. Could have been avoided.

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:eek:

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It's not as if that CG boat was small! Can't believe those jerks didn't see it! I was coming home at night this year and nearly ran over a tri-hull EXACTLY like that one at about 55 mph...the boat was underway with NO LIGHTS at all...if it weren't for fellow OSOer Bob Zubik noticing the white froth from his wake, I'd have run right up and over his stern. People are stupid.

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wow :eek: it seems the CG did not follow their own rules but the other boat did not even see the CG boat. Both get the DumbA** awards

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I don't care who had the right of way in that situation. The guy in the CG boat obviously saw him if he was calling out to him. What a complete, arrogant A-hole. CG captain should be charged with reckless endangerment. He could have easily killed those two guys in the tri-hull.

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where's cap when you really need him. lmao...he should have weighed in on this one...musta got scared...wussie :evilb:

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Not wholy true. If you as a civilian see an emergency responder coming you are to give way but the burden to aviod accidents falls on the responder. Ask any police or fire they'll tell you they can't just run a red light with out slowing to make sure crossing traffic is aware and stopped. Also a dead emergency responder is saving nobody he is actually endangering more reponders and civilians due to them coming to his accident.

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He was probably driving the Coast Guard boat. :eek: :eek: :drink: :drink:

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It takes two to have a wreck like that. The small boat was obviously unaware (not paying attention) which was stupid.

The CG crew were aware and did nothing to avoid the collision which is just unbelievable

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I say that's the coastie's fault through and through even without the law saying so. You can see the guy in the boat waving at the large boat in the distance to his starboard. He's facing completely away from the CG boat. As he's being pulled in he says, "what the hell happened? I was waving at the celebration." Looks like the CG ran him right over....TOOL!

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sakoutis - think were both saying the same thing .. maybe I was too vague. The CG boat had the right a way as it was an emergency responder, UNTIL it was determined that the burdened boat was not going to give way. The hailing was fruitless and at that point they should have reverted back to rule #1 - always avoid a collision. I agree, if they would have followed their own rules they would have been able to respond to the emergency rather than creating one.

This is how the CG words it......

Coast Guard Right A Way Rules

Rule #1 is to always avoid a collision. If a collision occurs the Nav. rules were not observed. The Coast Guard and Admiralty Court take the position that there are no accidents.

A watch (lookout) is required anytime that a vessel is underway.

The "Stand on Vessel" ( the one who has the right a way) is required to hold course until such time that it is determined the "Give way Vessel" or "Burdened" ( the one yielding the right of way) is not going to Give Way. The Stand on Vessel is then required to avoid a collision. All maneuvers must be made early and clearly to avoid any chance of misinterpretation.

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The Puddle Pirates are definately MORE in the wrong.
1)Nothing in the COLREGS (that I could find) absolves a law enforcement vessel from deviating from any rules including rule 1(a) These Rules shall apply to all vessels upon the high seas and in all waters connected therewith navigable by seagoing vessels for inland or international waters.
2)The report may have said the USCG was responding to an emergency but you couldn't see if the blue light was on and the siren definately was not on. (Either doesn't matter under COLREGS)
3)It was definately as crossing situation and the standon vessel was the smaller boat. They had the obligation under the COLREGS to maintain course and speed.
4)In every boat collision, like this one, neither boat operatot can be totally absolved of responsibilty. When collision was imminet, the smaller vessel should have deviate course to avoid collision.

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I have a question. This summer I was on my way to Put-in-Bay in my boat at about 1 in the afternoon. A direct heading from the Marblehead Lighthouse to the Perry Monument. I saw a patrol boat approaching from my Port side on a heading towards Kelley’s Island. No overhead lights on. It was not a CG boat, like the Police or something. I kept my course and speed and passed in front of the patrol boat with plenty of distance to spare. I even waved to them. Well, I look back two minutes later, and he is on my Starboard side with lights on trying to catch me. If I would not have looked, I would not seen him. He stopped me and asked if I knew why I was being stopped. I said no. He then asked me if I had ever taken a boating course. I said why YES. He then told me that I did not yield the right of way to his vessel. I said, “What?” You were approaching on my port side, I have right of way. He said not in a crossing situation. ???? I felt like asking him if he ever had a boating course. I have been boating on Lake Erie in this area since 1987. About twenty years, never had a stop like this. Anyway, he did BS about my safety stuff, showed him everything, and he let me leave. Now, was he right or was I? Listen, if was close, I would have certainly slowed down. You could right, but you could also be dead. I saw him way in advance when I was approaching him, he had no intentions on slowing down, but if any boat should have yielded, it would have been him, right?

Thanks,

T.

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Yes, you were right. A vessel must yield right of way to any other vessel from straight ahead around to 115 degrees off the starboard stern. Actually the picture shows 112.5 deg, but I think it's 115 in the Colregs,

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Regardless of whether or not they had lights a flashin, sirens a blarin, they had an obligation to stand down when it became apparent he other boat did not see/hear them..

Course, the CG Capt was also calling the chrysler tri-hull a "speedboat", so he may not have been the sharpest knife in the drawer to begin with ;) ;)