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Here are a few pictures of the first Eliminator 43 Eagle. The graphics are 100% Gel Coat with Pearls.

http://www.eliminatorboat.com/ForumImages/DSCN8879.JPG
http://www.eliminatorboat.com/ForumImages/DSCN8880.JPG
http://www.eliminatorboat.com/ForumImages/DSCN8876.JPG
http://www.eliminatorboat.com/ForumImages/DSCN8875.JPG

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is from the Scarabb mold? it is sweet :cool:

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Very nice looking. What kind of power is going in it?

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That's a big boat....but the paint is UGLY....sorry, that's my .02

The boat would look better with a "not so busy", or "classier" paintjob. That paint would look good on a 23' boat, but not this one.

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That's a big boat....but the paint is UGLY....sorry, that's my .02

The boat would look better with a "not so busy", or "classier" paintjob. That paint would look good on a 23' boat, but not this one.




You are correct my friend.....it is sooooo west coast and so overdone. Great work for gel for sure...... but not my taste. :drink:

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One hell of a time tested boat. Its great to see that Larry is now working with qualified people!

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As opposed to the more sudued paint on the east coast OL,s and cats.

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I thought Larry Smith was still rigging the boats under his own name? Has that changed?

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Looks like a Wellcraft Scarab hull not sure if a Larry Smith hull is the same.

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There is definitely a difference between the paint jobs from the West Coast and East Coast. This is definitely more West Coast than East Coast. You're probably going to find a Outerlimits with a flame paint job and post it here, but overall, this type of graphics is West Coast.

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I have to say......... I think the paint work on both coasts has gotten way out of hand.....again my 2 $
seems like with everything bling is king I call it butt as ugly....
Bryan

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This boat looks to have lower freeboard compared to the old 43 Scarabs. Maybe it's just the angle of the pics.

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That is the scarab bottom and a new top cap.

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I would hope they will stagger 2 Merc 850's or 2 -1075's with speedmasters in her.

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I like it.. Im sure it will look much better in person

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I don't think so. They leased both mold and deck from Larry Smith. Plan as I understood it was they were going to use the molds they have for now and possibly change the deck mold in the future. That is PURE Scarab deck in those pics, right down to the cabin windows.

And Yes, Larry Smith still builds custom Larry Smith Scarabs in Santa Barbara Ca.

It is sweet and a smart move by Eliminator to get the mold.

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for the record I think the paint looks great........I think its fairly tame actually......did you see that Carrera cat posted elsewhere.......now THAT is busy......looks good Elim. guy.... keep it up :cool:

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Do some of you think that when a manufacturer builds a new hull, or in this case, buys existing molds, he should put in the type of power package that offers direct comparison to something else out there?

Or should they just put in monster power and see how fast it's capable of handling right off the bat?

I would think what most manufacturers would want is to say. "Look, we just put in the same power package as Brands X,Y and Z and we're faster and handle better." Or, "Our boat is 5 ft. bigger and runs as well as theirs."

My guess is that they'll try the new Mercury 700 SCi with the NXT drives in a staggered configuration. This looks like it's going to be a real popular package for the big deep V's. And comparable.

My .02 cents :cool:

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Ditto, don't you think a good silver hell even two tone type would have been better, Im sure it will be sweet, they do good interiors but jeez.

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Alot of the 43's were triples, with some of the bigger HP pkgs minus the weight of the 3rd powerplant I think you will see some respectable numbers, nothing earth shattering but respectable.

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True

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True, the obvious choice is probably triple 525's, but I was probably thinking of the Sunsation F4 comparison with the 700's.

Not sure about the pricing difference of these two packages. Probably similar, but trips would definitely be easier to dock and you could get it up and bring it home on two if you had to.

Plus, it's always cool when a third motor barks to life.

Staggered 1075's is what I hope they use. Giddyup :p

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Isn't the freeboard much less than the Scarabs? It doesn't look very deep for a 43.

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I hope they dont start adding F-16 canopies and the those humps down the deck. Nice clean lines the way it is right now.

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Great lines .. Id take mine with a pair of big diesels and asd8's

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Now you're talking, thats exactly what I put in my 43 Norteck. :cool: I personally am glad that Eliminator obtained the molds, I always liked the lines of those 43 Scarabs. I dont care for the paint scheme, but thats personal preference. Yes it's typical west coast, but that's ok, it's also good to see other alternatives vs just East coast or what ever the south has to offer. It is good to see a few more 43 size boats coming out like new F-4 from Sunsation, the 42 Nordic, 43 A.T. and so on, it makes for great competition. Would like to see more pics when finished, Good Luck with the project. :cool: Jeff

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The colors dont do it for me, but I love the boat and the layout. I could have gotten one and it was a toss up between the scarab and the Tiger, the deciding factor for me was at the time I didnt want triples. I loved the layout of the scarab interior/cabin as well.

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I think the graphics and gel colors are typical of just about every other wild paint job out there right now. The problem with the graphics on this boat is they look like every other so called hot graphics job....nothing original. That being said they are eye catching and knowing Eliminator are probably perfect!

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I think they are eye catching also. Having moved from the West Coast to the Midwest, and being familiar with with both styles, the main difference in my mind is that an East Coast builder wouldn't dream of attempting anything even close to that in the gel. It's all paint out here where the "Best of the West" do it in the gel. Other than that the schemes are very similiar other than the Mitcher T's etc. I do think that one needs more blue on the sides to match the deck.

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I think it looks great! I love the classic lines. I too hope the don't mess it up with the F16 canopies. Too many of the East coast boats look alike to me. That big swirl on the side or a cartoon type theme to them.

Congrats Eliminator on a great looking boat!

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Ya the graphics are a little over the top for me also ..But for gelcoat its truely an awesome peice of work and im sure its tight :drink:

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Most of today's graphics are a little over the top for my taste, but like FeverMike I imagine Eliminator did a perfect job with them.

As for comparision power, I'd say staggered 1075s would be interesting. I The conventional Eliminator/Scarab 43 would be slower than its stepped competitors of the same size, but its big-water ability and handling would rock.

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the scarab/eliminator has steps too....

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This one is for sale at Lake Cumberland and was built in the east. Looks familiar.

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I think that's ONE of the reasons it's still for sale.

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Great boat I have 1991 straight bottom twin 605's and no 3
drives . It will see low 70's . My boat originally had twin 598 blower motors and no 6 drives and was told it would run a bit over 100 mph . All the same great big water boat wih alot of cockpit space and great lines . That boat does have a good freeboard as well . One point I would make is that it needs a taller wind screen than the original molded plexi one .
I am excited as it should firm up the value of the other 43's out there.

Rick G.

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Did ya expect anything less from Eliminator? :evilb:

Not my taste either, but that's a halo boat for the Elim product line, and rightly carries a distinct West Coast look.

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SeanH,

If it's the original 43 hull, as stated in the PB article in Oct./Nov. issue, I'm pretty sure that hull isn't stepped. That hull was introduced in 1992-93, and Scarb didn't add its AVS line of hulls, all of which were stepped, until much later.

Now, that's not to say Larry Smith didn't go back and modify the original at a later time and that the modified hull isn't the one Eliminator bought.

I could be wrong. Anyone know if the original 43 was stepped, or had steps added to the mold at a later date?

And you're right, Trick, someone will buy that one whether anyone here think it's ugly or not. But we all love to comment on matters of taste.

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Go back to the 1st post, it is definitely a stepped hull.