Like Tree0Likes

surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

Reply
Old 10-28-2006, 04:38 PM
  #11
Registered
 
PhantomChaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Bell Canyon, CA
My Boats: Formula FASTech 382 Sunseeker Apache 45
Posts: 12,756
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

Don't go cheap. EOH......is there anything else?
PhantomChaos is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 04:38 PM
  #12
Registered
VIP Member
Thread Starter
 
berns29scarab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Brick, NJ
Posts: 6,969
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

i have gotten prices between $58-$6500 for a triple axle, stainless/cadium caliper, brakes on 2 axles, torsion axles, leds all priced with surge disc set-up ...loadrite, fastload, hi-tech marine etc...south florida was at $8350
berns29scarab is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 04:50 PM
  #13
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Point Pleasant/Demarest NJ
My Boats: 2006 32 Skater Qtr canopy
Posts: 1,017
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

Hey man if I could help u or anyone else I would be happy to. We have some large bids we are working on, to give you an idea on how expensive some of these components can be some of these emergency trailers use a small onan generator $13,500. Some of the flashing lights are $2250 for a light.

If you deduct the surge $350, add the box when ordering new.
Pro1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 04:55 PM
  #14
Registered
VIP Member
Thread Starter
 
berns29scarab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Brick, NJ
Posts: 6,969
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pro1
Hey man if I could help u or anyone else I would be happy to. We have some large bids we are working on, to give you an idea on how expensive some of these components can be some of these emergency trailers use a small onan generator $13,500. Some of the flashing lights are $2250 for a light.

If you deduct the surge $350, add the box when ordering new.
none of them have said anything about deducting anything for the surge set-up, just add $700 to quoted prices
berns29scarab is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 07:01 PM
  #15
Registered
 
Downtown42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: 1 Flu Ovr KuKos Nest-WI
My Boats: 2005 42' Fountain SOLD
Posts: 9,950
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

get the EOH. You'll get it back when you sell it.
Downtown42 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 07:17 PM
  #16
Charter Member #415
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Jasper,Alabama
My Boats: 1968 Switzer Shooting Star,1967 Switzer Shooting Star,1963 Glasspar G-3
Posts: 3,357
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

We always liked the idea that surge brakes work with any tow vehicle with a hitch,no additional hookups. If you have to tow a boat with EOH and your truck isn't set up for electric,will the brakes work at all?

Last edited by Magicfloat; 10-28-2006 at 07:26 PM.
Magicfloat is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 07:26 PM
  #17
Charter Member
Charter Member
 
Hauling Trash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Beachwood N.J.
My Boats: 22 Hustler
Posts: 4,203
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

Electric over hydraulic
__________________
2014 OPA-APBA National Champion Class 7 .Hauling Trash 725.
Hauling Trash is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 07:47 PM
  #18
Registered
 
scottc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: edgewater,md.usa
My Boats: 1990 Silverton 34 Express
Posts: 841
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicfloat
We always liked the idea that surge brakes work with any tow vehicle with a hitch,no additional hookups. If you have to tow a boat with EOH and your truck isn't set up for electric,will the brakes work at all?

Nope, you have to have the brake controler in the truck for it to work. Even the EOH with drum brakes are better than surge systems. Go with the disc and EOH.
scottc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 07:50 PM
  #19
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: IAD/FLL
My Boats: '77 Hornet II
Posts: 2,090
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

My new surge-disc trailer stops just as well as my racecar trailer with electric drums.
With EOH you have to have a brake controller installed and fiddle a little with the setting until you find what works. Easy enough to have Uhaul install. I use a trailer connector in the cab so my controller sits in the glove box when not being used. I'd expect the trailer to come with a 7-way harness so you need that on the tow vehicle also.
With surge, you'll probably get an electric reverse lock-out solenoid, which is an extra wire seperate from the classic four-wire connector. It's supposed to be wired into tow vehicle's back-up lights so when in reverse the trailer doesn't apply the brakes. I'm not sure if these couplers still have the provision for a lock-out pin. I think I'm going to install a www.jetconnex.com wiring kit to clean it all up and make it easy.
Two ways to skin the cat I suppose, each with it's own pros and cons, with the EOH having a bit more up front cost. IMHO, the surge setup requires a little less thinking once the wiring is done. The only drawback might be as indicated, if you're towing through mountains.
Did you get my PM? I think I mentioned the price I paid, and they're building more Formula trailers now that I've given them feedback, and Formula specs They built mine in 3 days.
Good luck,
Michael
handfulz28 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2006, 07:56 PM
  #20
Registered
VIP Member
 
HotPursuit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Slidell,Louisiana
My Boats: 40 Skater
Posts: 1,783
Default Re: surge brakes or electric over hydraulic

I have always had surge brakes, converted this trailer to
electric over hydraulic .
I had air over hydraulic and can't tell the difference.
Best investment I ever made.Pulling 40' Skater with 06 F-350
and truck was already set up for gain adjustments.
You have to apply the brakes for surge to engage in some cases this would be a little nerve racking.
Electric over hydraulic can be adjusted were you just touch the peddle and your trailer is stopping.
No problems backing or hilly conditions.
HotPursuit is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sleek1
Trucks, Trailers and Transportation
23
02-25-2008 04:45 PM
Panic Button
Trucks, Trailers and Transportation
13
04-10-2007 11:12 AM
NoQuarter
Trucks, Trailers and Transportation
4
12-28-2006 07:48 PM
Viper31
General Q & A
19
03-23-2005 08:06 AM
KN
General Boating Discussion
13
02-15-2002 10:58 AM



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 PM.


Copyright 2011 OffShoreOnly. All rights reserved.