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Mungle 12-11-2006 09:32 PM

#6 Drives
 
I Am Trying To Find Out Where To Purchase The Weld On Skegs For #6 Drives Any Info Would Be Great

glassdave 12-11-2006 09:52 PM

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Herring i would think. sorry i dont have any contact info

Ryan Beckley 12-11-2006 09:59 PM

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Colabella Performance , FOR ALL YOUR DRIVE NEEDS, 407-498-0094

yahoo 12-12-2006 03:43 AM

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Ryan is right call craig.

SCARABJ 12-12-2006 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Beckley
Colabella Performance , FOR ALL YOUR DRIVE NEEDS, 407-498-0094

last time i was there a few months back he had a few sets of swep back skeg housing sitting on the shelf...

BigSilverCat 12-12-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SCARABJ
last time i was there a few months back he had a few sets of swep back skeg housing sitting on the shelf...

he has the set we welded the skegs on for professional marine, I wish someone would buy them from him so I can get paid. the owner says he will not pay me till they sell. sounds like Jessy James, oh wait, isnt that the team that Jessy james was with at destin?

here is a pic of them on the boat in the air. and a pic of us working on them before they were finnished.

BigSilverCat 12-12-2006 02:04 PM

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actually instead of welding on the skegs on yours, you could just buy this set that is already done. I will sell you the lowers for $1500.00 each. I forgot that the guy that owns them told me that if I could sell them I could keep what he owes me and give him the rest. he told me he thought they would sell for $4,000 . and he owes me $3500 so that means he only needs $500 for them. and that being the case. I will sell them for $1500 each and still give him his $500 and I will just take the loss on the money he owed me, but still recoup some of my cost of having them done.

Tyson
417-437-0665

cougarman 12-12-2006 02:26 PM

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Tyson,

You need a legal bill / contract signed for your work and services, at the start of your work. You seem to be a great help of many talents. Seems like a great way to protect yourself.

Good Luck
Cougarman

Reed Jensen 12-12-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarman
Tyson,

You need a legal bill / contract signed for your work and services, at the start of your work. You seem to be a great help of many talents. Seems like a great way to protect yourself.

Good Luck
Cougarman

I love how people think a contract or a bill will help you get payed. The only good a legal document provides is you can fan yourself with it when sitting in court while you sue. If the person's intent is to "not pay" from the onset... you are going to have a hard time getting your money. The party in debt will so cloud the issues with statements of "poor workmanship"... "untimely delivery"... that you will feel like you have earned your money twice.. :mad:

cougarman 12-12-2006 11:11 PM

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Reed Jensen,

Forgive me for caring !

I realize are justice system isn't perfect and plenty of people get screwed reguardless of paperwork. Just seems like there has to be a better way to accurately document agreed
terms between the two partys with a final value $$$ regonizable by law.

Cougarman

Reed Jensen 12-13-2006 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cougarman
Reed Jensen,

Forgive me for caring !

I realize are justice system isn't perfect and plenty of people get screwed reguardless of paperwork. Just seems like there has to be a better way to accurately document agreed
terms between the two partys with a final value $$$ regonizable by law.

Cougarman

I'm not saying you should forget about having a contract. Every business transaction should have a paper trail. I'm just saying... in business there are the people that aren't going to pay.... and all you can do is bend over and breath easy while you get the shaft. Sometimes it's just easier to forget about the debt after exhausting all normal avenues of collection. You can incorporate penalty terms into the contract, but after chasing good money after lost money, you may not recover the damages. You just have to weigh the circumstances. I once proceded with a forclosure action on a home where the owner didn't pay for the work. I spent 11,000 dollars in legal fees to get paid 5,800. The owner was in foreclosure and bankruptcy by the time I dragged his lame a$$ into court. Yeah.... I won.... I got the 5,800 that had to be escrowed to get the final financing... but I never collected the 11,000 in fees. Good deal, wouldn't you say? :rolleyes:

bobkatz 12-13-2006 10:40 AM

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Tyson,

I'm with Cougar, documentation has got to help.

How many "Boaters/Friends" are you having problems with?

I feel your pain!! It's always "Bear with me, I'll get you paid"

Katz

BigSilverCat 12-13-2006 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bobkatz
Tyson,

I'm with Cougar, documentation has got to help.

How many "Boaters/Friends" are you having problems with?

I feel your pain!! It's always "Bear with me, I'll get you paid"

Katz

alot

KNOT-RIGHT 12-13-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigyellowcat
actually instead of welding on the skegs on yours, you could just buy this set that is already done. I will sell you the lowers for $1500.00 each. I forgot that the guy that owns them told me that if I could sell them I could keep what he owes me and give him the rest. he told me he thought they would sell for $4,000 . and he owes me $3500 so that means he only needs $500 for them. and that being the case. I will sell them for $1500 each and still give him his $500 and I will just take the loss on the money he owed me, but still recoup some of my cost of having them done.

Tyson
417-437-0665


Tyson,

You have a pm.

Gerry

BigSilverCat 12-13-2006 09:59 PM

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I have had some people email me about these drives, here is what happened with these drives, while I am having problems with people on here I might as well put this problem out here too, this will take awhile.

well I just wrote for over an hour but I just deleted it because it will have way to deep of implications for alot of high up people on here, and I do not need to cause that big of a problem over these drives yet. the short of it is, they were broke, me and Brad fixed them, they were put back on the boat and used during a race, they did not break, they were taken off, I was not paid for fixing them. I drove to the guys office in New Jersey to get my money, thinking that if I showed up at his office in New Jersey and me being from Missouri he might get the hint that I was serious about wanting my money, He did not have the money to pay me so I told him that if I am going to be financing a race boat I would atleast want stickers with my company name on it. so he tells me to get with Shane Sherman to put my stickers on the boat ( yeah, that would work when I am already sueing him). or that he thinks the lowers are worth $4000 for the pair and if he could sell them he would pay me the money he owed me or if I could sell them I could keep the money I am owed and give him the rest. well I was owed $3000 for fixing the drives and $480 for next day fed ex so he could make the race. which he gave me his fed ex number but it did not work so I had to pay. So him knowing that I am owed $3480 and him saying he thinks they will sell for $4000 that means he will accept $520. I would like to recoupe some of my costs and I have in them and I have a few offers on them, So I guess we will see how good his word is, I will call him tomorrow and tell him I will wire transfer the money into his account tomorrow or send him a cashiers check next day and after he verifies funds I will have someone go by and pick up the drives. I will give an update after I call him tomorrow.

Byrdman 12-13-2006 10:06 PM

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Wow....what a bunch of thieves

Byrdman 12-13-2006 10:19 PM

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Tyson....where did you meet all these people....from the board like me????

BigSilverCat 12-13-2006 10:48 PM

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some of them.

Back4More 12-13-2006 10:53 PM

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I thought there was an issue with those weld ons...didn't the Motley Crue cat boat loose one.

Reed Jensen 12-13-2006 11:30 PM

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It amazes me at times how some people have a cavalier attitude about paying for stuff. I sold a mercruiser plug to an OSO member. He asked me how much I wanted for the plug. Well... new they are about $50 bucks. The plug end I had was cut off a long pigtail. The plug was short, but it still had a foot of wire to connect to the wiring harness,and that was all he needed... just the plug end. I tell him to send me $5.00 to cover the postage and he could have the plug. The plug was new... never used. I couldn't even get the lousy five bucks from the guy. :(

BigSilverCat 12-13-2006 11:50 PM

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the ones we welded on will not come off

Pro1 12-14-2006 08:19 AM

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Do u have a problem with the owner of the 38 Skater?

BigSilverCat 12-14-2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro1
Do u have a problem with the owner of the 38 Skater?

Would you? I worked on that skeg from 9 in the morning till 2-4 the next morning three days in a row and then saturday morning it was not close and I told the owner of the skater that I was not sure that I would be able to get it done in time and he pleaded with me to get it done because he could not get any other lowers for the race and that he had already paid for the rooms down there and that he would lose out on precious points. the problem was that the next day at 8 am I was going to have to drive to new york city to do a home theater job, so I kept grinding on the skeg all day saturday when I could have been at the lake and saturday night and sunday morning at 7 am I had to leave to take a shower and then drive 20 hours. so when I left brad and Travis had not left yet either so they kept working on the skegs for the next day. then they were sent off. after all that I did not get paid a dime, I have over $1200 invested in the aluminum, cnc work and sanding and grinding disks then another $480 to next day ship the drive so he can make his precious race.

then after all that and calling the owner of the 38' skater asking to get at least the money that I am out, and him not paying I show up in his office and I am talking to him about it and tell him that I worked on it all night long and did not go to sleep and he told me that I didn't work on it all night that people tell him that they work on stuff all night but they really dont. and I said that really did work on it all night and he said that I didn't. now I am pissed off about this, because I worked my ass off on that thing to get it done for him. there are several people on here that he can ask if they think I worked all night on it and they will say there is not a doubt in there mind that I did. now I am getting more mad the more I type.

I dont know if that was a trick question on the owner part, but I have a problem with people lying to me. and he did.

I am going to call him today and demand my money or the drives and then we will see if I have a problem with the owner.

Tyson Garvin
417-437-0665

any lawyers on here? can I put a lien on the boat for this.

berns29scarab 12-14-2006 12:15 PM

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you can place a mechanics lein on the boat if he doesnt pay you or give you the drives. i would tell him to either put up the $$$ or the parts that were repaired so you can sell them and recoup your $$. what is his reasoning for not paying you for services rendered. i wouldnt have sent them to him til i had rec'd pymt from him via either a wire transfer or a certified check...sorry about what your going thru...some people are just that way.

BigSilverCat 12-14-2006 02:31 PM

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he is not paying because the racing orginazation changed there rules a couple weeks after I did them and now he cannot use them for racing. but that is not my problem. I dont care if the racing orginazation said all boats from today on out have to be paddle boats, he had broke drives that he could not use, I fixed them he ran a race with them and they did not break (like the merc ones did) so I should still get paid for the work I did.

these drives are a bad subject around here because of all the work we did on them and then did not get paid, so we do not bring them up much but because of this thread they have been brought back up and I was talking to Brad about them and he told me that the owner called him several times saying he would be well compensated for them if we got them done in time to go to the race. Now he is mad about this too.

berns29scarab 12-14-2006 02:47 PM

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im sorry to hear about this...nothing worse then gettin screwed. im assuming the owners initials are RC. know him a lil and ever woulda guessed he's the type. your a better man than i am, i wouldnt have released a damn thing until it was paid for...THE END unless i had a past relationship with the individual and knew he was good for it. i hope you get what ya deserve...just sucks to come down to this.

Sarge1 12-14-2006 11:53 PM

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I have been following OSO for a few months now from the wonderful country of Afghanistan. (no, I am not here by choice) I don't own a boat, don't even really know how to drive one, but the sport of racing interest me. So I am not a professional of water sports by any means, but I enjoy racing in general. Anyway, it sure sounds like a whole lot of whinning going on. You all are passing judgement on one individual and you are only hearing one side of the story. I have PVT's in my Platoon that don't whine half as much as all of you are and they are working 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year making sh!t for money. Oh by the way, they get rocketed, mortared, IED and small arms fire from some rag head f%$k every other day. The original question that started this thread... 'where can I get weld on skegs for #6 drives?' anyone remember that... sounds like you took a question that was asked 4 months ago and four people replied to it. Then you turn around and used it to bash someone your pissed at. If the man owes you the money, I am sure you will get it. But don't act like a Godd&%m five year old and play the 'he said she said game'. It is between you and the individual you did the work for. Not you, him and the rest of OSO. You even stated that he said if you could, sell them. So quit F!@king whinning and go ahead and sell them and get you money that way. The damn thread was starting by someone looking for skegs. Back in Aug... that was when the original question was asked. It is now December. Nice, real nice.

I know, who is this prick who doesn't know crap about boats, doesn't own one and couldn't affort to buy an empty, used fiberglass hull...

Sarge

Reed Jensen 12-15-2006 12:00 AM

Re: #6 Drives
 

Originally Posted by Sarge1
I know, who is this prick who doesn't know crap about boats, doesn't own one and couldn't affort to buy an empty, used fiberglass hull...

Sarge

Don't fault the man griping about not being paid until you've had it happen to you. He isn't just out his work... he is out the money to freight the parts overnight. If some towel-head shoots at you.... YOU AT LEAST GET TO SHOOT BACK. No such luck in business.

berns29scarab 12-15-2006 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarge1
I have been following OSO for a few months now from the wonderful country of Afghanistan. (no, I am not here by choice) I don't own a boat, don't even really know how to drive one, but the sport of racing interest me. So I am not a professional of water sports by any means, but I enjoy racing in general. Anyway, it sure sounds like a whole lot of whinning going on. You all are passing judgement on one individual and you are only hearing one side of the story. I have PVT's in my Platoon that don't whine half as much as all of you are and they are working 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year making sh!t for money. Oh by the way, they get rocketed, mortared, IED and small arms fire from some rag head f%$k every other day. The original question that started this thread... 'where can I get weld on skegs for #6 drives?' anyone remember that... sounds like you took a question that was asked 4 months ago and four people replied to it. Then you turn around and used it to bash someone your pissed at. If the man owes you the money, I am sure you will get it. But don't act like a Godd&%m five year old and play the 'he said she said game'. It is between you and the individual you did the work for. Not you, him and the rest of OSO. You even stated that he said if you could, sell them. So quit F!@king whinning and go ahead and sell them and get you money that way. The damn thread was starting by someone looking for skegs. Back in Aug... that was when the original question was asked. It is now December. Nice, real nice.

I know, who is this prick who doesn't know crap about boats, doesn't own one and couldn't affort to buy an empty, used fiberglass hull...

Sarge

We appreciate what you are doing BUT YOU ARE THERE BY CHOICE...YOU ENLISTED

BigSilverCat 12-15-2006 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarge1
I have been following OSO for a few months now from the wonderful country of Afghanistan. (no, I am not here by choice) I don't own a boat, don't even really know how to drive one, but the sport of racing interest me. So I am not a professional of water sports by any means, but I enjoy racing in general. Anyway, it sure sounds like a whole lot of whinning going on. You all are passing judgement on one individual and you are only hearing one side of the story. I have PVT's in my Platoon that don't whine half as much as all of you are and they are working 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year making sh!t for money. Oh by the way, they get rocketed, mortared, IED and small arms fire from some rag head f%$k every other day. The original question that started this thread... 'where can I get weld on skegs for #6 drives?' anyone remember that... sounds like you took a question that was asked 4 months ago and four people replied to it. Then you turn around and used it to bash someone your pissed at. If the man owes you the money, I am sure you will get it. But don't act like a Godd&%m five year old and play the 'he said she said game'. It is between you and the individual you did the work for. Not you, him and the rest of OSO. You even stated that he said if you could, sell them. So quit F!@king whinning and go ahead and sell them and get you money that way. The damn thread was starting by someone looking for skegs. Back in Aug... that was when the original question was asked. It is now December. Nice, real nice.

I know, who is this prick who doesn't know crap about boats, doesn't own one and couldn't affort to buy an empty, used fiberglass hull...

Sarge

key word, you said you lazy asses only work 14 hours a day, come over here and work with us for 20 hours a day and every couple days 24 hours then after you have done that for several weeks, instead of us paying you for all your hard work, I want you to sell your car and your wifes wedding ring and give me the money. then lets see if you think I am in the wrong.

BigSilverCat 12-15-2006 10:32 AM

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this thread has helped the people of OSO. I have recieved several calls and emails from people that have broke drives that they did not know who too call to fix and several people that have the old style skegs and want them turned into swept back skegs.

Aqua-Holic 12-15-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarge1
I have been following OSO for a few months now from the wonderful country of Afghanistan. (no, I am not here by choice) I don't own a boat, don't even really know how to drive one, but the sport of racing interest me. So I am not a professional of water sports by any means, but I enjoy racing in general. Anyway, it sure sounds like a whole lot of whinning going on. You all are passing judgement on one individual and you are only hearing one side of the story. I have PVT's in my Platoon that don't whine half as much as all of you are and they are working 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year making sh!t for money. Oh by the way, they get rocketed, mortared, IED and small arms fire from some rag head f%$k every other day. The original question that started this thread... 'where can I get weld on skegs for #6 drives?' anyone remember that... sounds like you took a question that was asked 4 months ago and four people replied to it. Then you turn around and used it to bash someone your pissed at. If the man owes you the money, I am sure you will get it. But don't act like a Godd&%m five year old and play the 'he said she said game'. It is between you and the individual you did the work for. Not you, him and the rest of OSO. You even stated that he said if you could, sell them. So quit F!@king whinning and go ahead and sell them and get you money that way. The damn thread was starting by someone looking for skegs. Back in Aug... that was when the original question was asked. It is now December. Nice, real nice.

I know, who is this prick who doesn't know crap about boats, doesn't own one and couldn't affort to buy an empty, used fiberglass hull...

Sarge


I think the date you are looking at is when Mungle joined OSO....looks like he asked the question on Monday.

BigSilverCat 12-15-2006 12:47 PM

Re: #6 Drives
 

Originally Posted by Sarge1
The original question that started this thread... 'where can I get weld on skegs for #6 drives?' anyone remember that... sounds like you took a question that was asked 4 months ago and four people replied to it. Then you turn around and used it to bash someone your pissed at. If the man owes you the money, I am sure you will get it.

Sarge

the first post on here was asking where I can get the weld on skegs for a #6, within 24 hours of posting I had answered him on where he can get them and of a set that is used that he could probably get cheeper then welding new ones on.

this thread took a turn for the worse, Sorry about that. and If I had wanted to bash someone I was pissed at I would have started my own thread about them six months ago when they had not paid.

and this question was just posted a few days ago

BigSilverCat 12-15-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarge1
I have been following OSO for a few months now from the wonderful country of Afghanistan. (no, I am not here by choice) I don't own a boat, don't even really know how to drive one, but the sport of racing interest me.

I know, who is this prick who doesn't know crap about boats, doesn't own one and couldn't affort to buy an empty, used fiberglass hull...

Sarge

I followed this forum for over a year before my first post, and if you go back and read all my first years worth of posts, the only thing I posted were answers to questions people on here were asking, and the only time I would put an answer on here was when I knew exactly what they were asking and If I knew 100% that I was going to give them correct information. I have been on here for several years and never bashed someone on here till a month or so ago when I finally got screwed by enough people to do something about it.

why dont you quit looking at OSO, and finish that war over there so we can get Cheeper fuel for our boats.

Reed Jensen 12-15-2006 01:26 PM

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"Cheeper fuel".... cheep cheep.... :chick: ... oh.... you mean Cheaper fuel......... hahahahahaha.... Spelling police at your service...... :D

bobkatz 12-15-2006 03:17 PM

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Sarge1, nice first post!!! :mad: Thank you for doing what you do, trying to make this world safer for all of us, as far as the first post goes, that was bu!!sh!t.
If you have been paying any attention to OSO you know what kind of person BYC is, but there comes a time when being nice, and waiting for your money doesn't cut it.
So in short if it bothers you so much, all the whining, complaining, and the he said, she said, go find another boating website that suits you own personal tastes! As for me this place is home, thanks OSO.

BigSilverCat 12-15-2006 04:26 PM

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I just got off the phone with the guy who owns the #6 lowers, he says he wants $4,000 for the lowers and that he will split it with me so he would get $2000 and I would get $2000. anyone want to buy them

Comanche3Six 12-15-2006 04:33 PM

Re: #6 Drives
 

Originally Posted by Sarge1
I have been following OSO for a few months now from the wonderful country of Afghanistan. (no, I am not here by choice) I don't own a boat, don't even really know how to drive one, but the sport of racing interest me. So I am not a professional of water sports by any means, but I enjoy racing in general. Anyway, it sure sounds like a whole lot of whinning going on. You all are passing judgement on one individual and you are only hearing one side of the story. I have PVT's in my Platoon that don't whine half as much as all of you are and they are working 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year making sh!t for money. Oh by the way, they get rocketed, mortared, IED and small arms fire from some rag head f%$k every other day. The original question that started this thread... 'where can I get weld on skegs for #6 drives?' anyone remember that... sounds like you took a question that was asked 4 months ago and four people replied to it. Then you turn around and used it to bash someone your pissed at. If the man owes you the money, I am sure you will get it. But don't act like a Godd&%m five year old and play the 'he said she said game'. It is between you and the individual you did the work for. Not you, him and the rest of OSO. You even stated that he said if you could, sell them. So quit F!@king whinning and go ahead and sell them and get you money that way. The damn thread was starting by someone looking for skegs. Back in Aug... that was when the original question was asked. It is now December. Nice, real nice.

I know, who is this prick who doesn't know crap about boats, doesn't own one and couldn't affort to buy an empty, used fiberglass hull...

Sarge

Sargent Slaughter?

offshoredrillin 12-15-2006 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigyellowcat
I just got off the phone with the guy who owns the #6 lowers, he says he wants $4,000 for the lowers and that he will split it with me so he would get $2000 and I would get $2000. anyone want to buy them

F him Tyson, he owes you 3500, if he sells them for 4 k he should pay you every red cent. you did the work in the alloted time and went above and beyond, why let him profit??? let the rest of know who this "racer" pos is... go get the drives then and you sell them for 3500, piss on him let him take the loss:mad:

Roger 1 12-15-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
F him Tyson, he owes you 3500, if he sells them for 4 k he should pay you every red cent. you did the work in the alloted time and went above and beyond, why let him profit??? let the rest of know who this "racer" pos is... go get the drives then and you sell them for 3500, piss on him let him take the loss:mad:


Ya' took the words right out of my mouth. FCUK HIM! :mad:


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