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Old 12-29-2006, 09:36 AM
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I love Tennessee and the Allisons that came from there.....

Good 'ol Rocky Top.......Rocky Top Ten-a-seeeeee.

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Steve Stepp (Velocity) got his pad bottom idea for offshore boats from these style of boats too.
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The technical term was, I believe, ABSATCAL (A B*ll Sh*t Appendage To Create Artificial Length). It is still in use today under the newer name BEAK (Baloney Ersatz Addon Kontraption)....

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What rocks????

I love Tennessee and the Allisons that came from there.....

Good 'ol Rocky Top.......Rocky Top Ten-a-seeeeee.

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A buddy of mine recently purchased a new Allison... It's fast, but above 50 it becomes a balancing act to keep it on the pad. Not fun to drive at those speeds. You are constantly jabbing the wheel to the left to keep it on the pad, and if it falls off the pad... it goes into a super scary chine walk.....
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Steve Stepp (Velocity) got his pad bottom idea for offshore boats from these style of boats too.
That's true....and he admits it.....

Steve also built a wood and fibreglass composite Velocity prototype hull in 1981, that he and Gene Whipp raced at the Key West World's. I was so impressed with it and the strength/weight ratio, that we used an improved version of that construction concept in all of our Conquest Cats..... and I freely admit that as well.

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Reed I always thought that was what was so fun about those boats....
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A buddy of mine recently purchased a new Allison... It's fast, but above 50 it becomes a balancing act to keep it on the pad. Not fun to drive at those speeds. You are constantly jabbing the wheel to the left to keep it on the pad, and if it falls off the pad... it goes into a super scary chine walk.....
We all went through that ..........it takes a delicate and subtle touch.

FYI...... My Allison race boat pictured above.... had two right hand rotation engines...... That rig made a single engine version seem like a walk in the park.

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I agree with the Allisons. They were winning eveything with the pad bottom, and the first to do it. Then the Hydrostreams and early Checkmates (from wild Bill in Ohio) followed. The 15' Checkmates were a favorite around west Detroit. Anyone know where Sammy is now?? He sold the Checkmates on Warren Ave. I cannot remember the name of the dealer.
Sad thing is when Checkmate is mentioned..... "Wild Bill" Combs is always credited...... yet the company was founded and conceived by he and his equal partner.... the late Bill Downard...who was both a creative and stabilizing influence during the company's formative years.

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Howard Pip is held up on a pedestal that is somewhat like Reggies....... everyone thinks he is an innovator... when in fact all he is, is a marketer.
Pip, got his bottom from Allison.......The pad on a V-King.... is 100% 15' allison.........
The HST is a Stoker

....... from someone that was there

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that is awesome!

I think Fountain got the beak idea from Hydrostream. That is the style of boats he was around the most and I believe that is where the idea came from.
I always thought Reggie's beak idea came from Hydrostream, I wonder if it's true?
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