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thisistank 01-18-2007 08:44 PM

OUCH! This may hurt the re-sale!! (NEW PHOTO'S)
 
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Low mileage beauty, needs some TLC, nice project for the do-it-yourselfer. Can be had for a good price.:D :D :eek: :eek:

VelocityMark 01-18-2007 08:45 PM

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Somebody sure mucked up. Ouch

glassdave 01-18-2007 08:54 PM

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youch! . . . .whats the story behind that?

LaughingCat 01-18-2007 09:19 PM

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looks like travel lift dropped it.

45sonic 01-18-2007 09:21 PM

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I think that left a mark :D:D

hurleyr 01-18-2007 09:24 PM

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It was an OST Crane out of Ventura.

I heard the oiler was running a 300 ton hydro crane. Apparently, he was trying to set it in the water so it could be motored to Long Beach. I was told the wind picked up pushing the boat outside the crane chart and the guy tried to lower the load very quickly (panicked) and when he stopped quickly that was all it took. It went bye bye.

Tank - Got any pictures of the crane? I'm sure it didn't look very pretty.

thisistank 01-18-2007 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hurleyr (Post 1997915)
It was an OST Crane out of Ventura.

I heard the oiler was running a 300 ton hydro crane. Apparently, he was trying to set it in the water so it could be motored to Long Beach. I was told the wind picked up pushing the boat outside the crane chart and the guy tried to lower the load very quickly (panicked) and when he stopped quickly that was all it took. It went bye bye.

Tank - Got any pictures of the crane? I'm sure it didn't look very pretty.


DAM! I had no idea that was in Ventura. That's only 10 miles up the road from me. I recieved those pics from my sister-in-law. I'll see if she has any more. I just figured it was one of those pics that float around the internet.

hurleyr 01-18-2007 09:35 PM

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It was in the Hueneme Harbor. Real close and not the first time it has happen. Don't ask me how I know. :)

thisistank 01-18-2007 09:45 PM

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OK, OK, I got some more info. It was actually in Port Hueneme Harbor. They said it was dropped from at least 20 feet, then the crane fell on top of it!!:eek:

Here's another pic. I'm going to go down there in the morning on the way to work and snap some more pics. Supposidly the crane is already moved but the boat is still there.

glassdave 01-18-2007 09:52 PM

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converted 'em to jpg's . . . .:eek:

open87 01-18-2007 10:29 PM

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someone has a story to tell,"man ,your not going to belive what i did the other day at work"..

costly ....

bojoe2 01-19-2007 02:34 AM

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those dam bayliners :eek:

DyD 01-19-2007 08:21 AM

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Looks like an 80' Sunseeker. Ouch. $$$$$$$$$$$$

pullmytrigger 01-19-2007 08:55 AM

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whats an "oiler"?

cbeastwood 01-19-2007 08:58 AM

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Open72,

More like, "Man, you're not going to believe what I did the other day at my former job."!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GLH 01-19-2007 09:02 AM

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That'll buff right out...


See add in a few months....

80' Sunseeker.... $1,500.00 ...Like New...Fresh Paint

phragle 01-19-2007 10:12 AM

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a little epoxy and some krylon..good as new!!

hammer01 01-19-2007 10:34 AM

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Dumb question, but who is responsible in a situation like this? I had trim tabs stolen off my boat at my marina and there are signs everywhere posted that if you are a paying customer you are liable for theft and damage. Anyone know? hammer

Anarchy Powerboats 01-19-2007 10:35 AM

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Some poor bastard waited over a year or two just for that too happen at delivery. Thats a bad day.

Strip Poker 388 01-19-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 1997950)
converted 'em to jpg's . . . .:eek:

Thanks for converting.

it looks crushed:eek:

SKRAMER 01-19-2007 12:19 PM

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ouch!!!!!!!!!

thisistank 01-19-2007 12:52 PM

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I went down there this morning and it is A LOT worse in person! It's f*ckin' done! I took a bunch of pics that I'll post later when I get home. There's a piece of the crane next to it that looks like they cut off. It's bent to sh!t too.

It is a Sunseeker, either a 75 or 80. I heard it was going to be shipped over seas which would make sense since Hueneme harbor is an importer/exporter "world" port. All business, no recrereational use.

I'll get the other pics up asap.

DJD 01-19-2007 02:08 PM

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The whole story
http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs...287756,00.html

DJD 01-19-2007 02:10 PM

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78' & it was "100 feet above the ground"

PhantomChaos 01-19-2007 02:43 PM

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Sick......


I like all the comments on the news article......they sounds like some knuckleheads from OSO!!!!!! :D :D


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awwww

8:35:13 a.m. on January 18, 2007
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Oops!

10:58:28 a.m. on January 18, 2007
MY TWO CENTS | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 8:03 am | #

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If you have 3 mil to drop on a yacht, I don't think you are too worried. Besides I'm sure it was insured.

11:00:24 a.m. on January 18, 2007
THE LIMBER TIMBER | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 8:05 am | #

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I got all teary eyed when I read this......NOT

12:08:05 p.m. on January 18, 2007
N A | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 9:13 am | #

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Wow.....bummer for the yacht company waiting for their new toy, eh? Amazing the crane operator or anyone else was not injured.

12:28:37 p.m. on January 18, 2007
R R | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 9:33 am | #

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I wonder if the operator will get fired. That's a pretty big mistake. I wish I could have seen it.

12:58:16 p.m. on January 18, 2007
RAIDER HATER | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 10:03 am | #

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Was the Yacht smuggling drugs? Perhaps that's why it weight more than the manufactured specs.

What a waste of a nice crane!

1:21:32 p.m. on January 18, 2007
BRIAN WILLIAMS | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 10:26 am | #

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Holy cr*p! What a bummer! I don't care if I could afford a $3M yacht or not...this would still hurt.

1:24:09 p.m. on January 18, 2007
BEA HAPPI | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 10:29 am | #

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exactly my thought Bea. regardless of how much money you have, it is still a bummer.
However, I would have liked to see that happen in person. from pretty far away though!

1:36:44 p.m. on January 18, 2007
FED UP | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 10:41 am | #

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I don't know why they would lie so blatantly with so many witnesses standing around. But, the operator was injured and taken away in an ambulance with pretty bad leg injuries!!

1:46:50 p.m. on January 18, 2007
JOE FRANKS | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 10:52 am | #

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fyi, raider hater, it was not operator error.

5:09:56 p.m. on January 18, 2007
FUNKY FRESH | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 2:14 pm | #

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It was yacht error.

10:10:17 p.m. on January 18, 2007
SAM CLEMENS | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 7:15 pm | #

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sounds like the crain they used was not big enough to handle the load. The operator was probably not certified either as he would have known the crains capacity.

8:11:01 a.m. on January 19, 2007
SHELLY MIFERFY | Homepage | 01.19.07 - 5:16 am | #

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shelly, what do you know? it was a 300-ton crane with plenty of boom and counter-weights... the operator, crane, and foreman could all handle the job... a gust of wind, impossible to have foreseen, took the boat and swung the crane, consequently toppling the job. accidents happen, so shelly, stop pointing fingers.

11:57:45 a.m. on January 19, 2007
FUNKY FRESH | Homepage | 01.19.07 - 9:03 am | #

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shelly, you don't even know how to spell "crane". there should be a minimum i.q. requirement to post comments.

12:00:07 p.m. on January 19, 2007
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StillHaulin@63 01-19-2007 03:13 PM

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I "almost" had a similar situation occur about two months ago over at Channel Islands Landing on Victoria.

I store my boat there because I prefer the hoist to get me in/out of the water. Their "real" hoist broke down so they brough in a Pettibone crane to use instead. The last time I used it, my 23" Baja was spinning in circles, dangling at the end of a 50" line. But I was lucky, the bow missed the concrete pilings by 6" at least. As everyone said, that crane was simply an accident waiting to happen!

The good news ..... they have gotten rid of the Pettibone and are in process of installing a real 8000# boat hoist.

Good things happen to those who wait :evilb:
..... Now I can get a bigger Baja!

t500hps 01-19-2007 03:43 PM

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We had a printing press shipped from Italy 7-8 years ago. The dock workers put a 50,000 lbs unit (one of 9) on a flat bed to move it into the yard away from the docks until it cleared customs......they flipped the entire rig! THEIR TRUCK AND OUR LOAD! Several weeks went by before our riggers were allowed to come pick up the containers. When they did one container couldn't be found.....turns out they hid it in the back area so no one would see it. Once the dock/company accknowledge what they did they sent a letter of apology along with a copy of the federal law that says they are liable UP TO $500.00..YES THAT"S IT! Your own insurance must cover the rest!

GLH 01-19-2007 03:59 PM

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An unbent example...

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=21904&url=

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/6/9/4/1469470_1.jpg

thisistank 01-19-2007 04:00 PM

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Hey Nort...I bet they'd take your seeker in on trade for this one....Little elbow greese, it'll rub right out!!:drink:

Steamin Rice 01-19-2007 04:59 PM

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At first I thought Nort got a new 'Seeker!! :D :D

glassdave 01-19-2007 05:18 PM

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if Louietherigger was there this would not have happend :D

PhantomChaos 01-19-2007 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 1998622)
Hey Nort...I bet they'd take your seeker in on trade for this one....Little elbow greese, it'll rub right out!!:drink:



LOL....I'll take some of the electronics from that! :D I'm sure there is some salvage since the hull took the hit!

bouyhunter 01-19-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 1997950)
converted 'em to jpg's . . . .:eek:

WOW, well check out the big brain on Brad (Dave):evilb:

"Hello, Waste Management, Juilio speaking"
"Yeah, I'm gonna need a 40yd Dumpster... Make that two.":eek:

Damn shame.

hurleyr 01-19-2007 05:50 PM

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An oiler is the crane operators helper. They rig and lube the crane.

I'm not a lawyer but the way I understand it is that, in a case like this, the company "meaning the crane company" will usually pick up damages via their general liability policy.

Trouble is, in a major &%$%up like this it could max out the policy. After that point they could go after the company assets. Typical coverage for a high risk operator is $5M.
If they have the coverage it will be soaked up fairly quick.

Tell me if I'm missing anything:
$3M New Boat
$1-2M New Crane
$100-1M Repair Dock Pier Structure (yes it was damaged)
$100K Repair the massive dent in ship when the crane counter weight hit it.
$100k Several days down time for the cargo ships waiting to use the dock. I was told this could be costly but dont have any figures.
Unknown ecomonic damages when the pier is shut down for repairs.
$100-2M BS claims, ie I can't fish anymore because the loud noise scared them fish away. Don't laugh, this is California.

PhantomChaos 01-19-2007 07:17 PM

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HURLRYR........pretty close except for the last time. :)


TANK....where are the photos!

thisistank 01-19-2007 08:18 PM

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Here are the photo's...This thing is TORN UP!! There was even a whole sh!t load of oil under it from the motors.

thisistank 01-19-2007 08:20 PM

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The bottom picture you can see that the whole helm was shifted (out of the boat) upon impact. I don't think there's going to be much salvage of electronics there.

BADA BING 01-19-2007 08:21 PM

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Hey guys, I won't be able to be this years card boat in Catalina for the SCOPE Poker Run, we were having our new boat delivered this past week and there was some problems and damage that occured with the shipping company...we have made a damage claim with the freight company but they said it may take some time to process the claim, so in the meantime we will just have to keep using our SCARAB :D

Jimbo :evilb:

thisistank 01-19-2007 08:21 PM

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and more....

thisistank 01-19-2007 08:23 PM

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That is a shot of the piece of crane that was cut away and left. I'm no crane expert...But it looked like there was some failure there.


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