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AvidBoater 02-21-2007 11:39 AM

36' Outlaw 100 MPH ?
 
Does anyone know of a 36' Baja Outlaw that is capable of 100 MPH? What kind of power does it take to get to the century mark?

Smitty 02-21-2007 11:45 AM

As an owner of a 36 Outlaw that runs 84, I would have to say it is going to take at least 1000 per side if not more and Number 6 drives to get it done. Unless of course you removed the whole interior. Then I might be closer to 92-93.

The Outlaws are very heavy and inefficient wave crushing hulls.

AvidBoater 02-21-2007 11:55 AM

What power are you running in your Outlaw?

BajaRunner 02-21-2007 12:16 PM

I thought there was one with 900's and 6's that got there. i may be wrong

Tazz 02-21-2007 12:20 PM

I would think it is similar to a straight bottom Top Gun, they take about 1000hp x 2 to get there.

BBB725 02-21-2007 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by BajaRunner (Post 2033985)
I thought there was one with 900's and 6's that got there. i may be wrong

It was for sale in the Dupont Reg. a while ago. I think it said was build for the owner of Baja and ran 109mph. Also maybe just sold on Boattraderonline.com

Dock Holiday 02-21-2007 12:36 PM

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You need these.

Yes 1000 per side.

Dock Holiday 02-21-2007 12:39 PM

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This boat with 900's was billed as the Fastest 36 Outlaw at 105 MPH back when it was for sale a few years ago.

It still shows up on Lake Cumberland Marine's website. One of only two I know of that were built with #6 drives.

rsmyq9 02-21-2007 12:42 PM

Hawkeye Boat Sales has a new 35 Outlaw with 700's that will run better than 100 mph. Seems that somebody had some photos on here of it being built.

Would it really take an additional 300 hp per side to push the 36 to 100 vs. the 35?

RBT 02-21-2007 12:44 PM

Pier Pressure in Canada has one with 900's and #6's I recall it running a hair over 100.

RT

Dock Holiday 02-21-2007 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by rsmyq9 (Post 2034007)
Hawkeye Boat Sales has a new 35 Outlaw with 700's that will run better than 100 mph. Seems that somebody had some photos on here of it being built.

Would it really take an additional 300 hp per side to push the 36 to 100 vs. the 35?


YES

The 36 is heavier, punches a bigger hole through the air and does NOT have a pad bottom like the new 35.

BZ 02-21-2007 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2034001)
This boat with 900's was billed as the Fastest 36 Outlaw at 105 MPH back when it was for sale a few years ago.

It still shows up on Lake Cumberland Marine's website. One of only two I know of that were built with #6 drives.

you would not catch me in that boat at 100+

racesdad 02-21-2007 01:44 PM

did one with almost 800 a side and ran 98 w/xr's. i would suggest it though. scary with bravos and had to drive through the chine walk at 90

FeverMike 02-21-2007 09:35 PM

I'm not so sure I'd want to go 100mph in a Baja.

VeeCat 02-21-2007 09:39 PM

Have a really Rare one
36 Outlaw with Staggard 750's and number 4 drives and extension boxes. Light layup w/ kevlar and extra bulkheads. Extra light no cabin.
BULLET PROOF 90MPH and FOR SALE make offer or Trade!
Here is the link for pictures,
once you get there, Click "Boats for Sale" on the left side of the page.
www.yachtworld.com/sittelmarine
VeeCat

VeeCat 02-21-2007 09:45 PM

Probably the ONLY one with a Staggard Engine set up.
Couldn't Post pictures but the link above has pictures for those interested. Nice Paint also!
VeeCat

AIR TIME 02-21-2007 11:26 PM

GEE I THOUGHT THE QUESTON WAS [IF THERE WAS ANY 36S GOING A 100] NOT HEARING FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY BEAK BOATERS, I WOULDN'T GO A 100 IN A BAJA:rolleyes: !! I wouldn't want to ride in a beak that spins in turns, GETS TAPED TOGETHER AND PUSHED OVER A START FINISH LINE AND CALLED A WORLD CHAMP:p :p AND I TAKE BACK MY REMARK THAT I LIKED THE NEW 35 STAGGER AT THE BOAT SHOW SO THERE KISS MY AZZZZZZZZZZZZ:evilb: BUT i liked the rides I had in the OL's TRUE CUSTOM BOATS, AND WATCH OUT THERE WILL SOME BAJAs passing beakers this summer :D you can take that to the bank and one other thing I like the paint on the new 700 35 baja ol thats hitting over 104 with no steps!!!, no swim platform!!! a true 35!!! all right time for my zoloft[just kidding I had a real bad day at the docs.

TylerCrockett 02-22-2007 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by AvidBoater (Post 2033942)
Does anyone know of a 36' Baja Outlaw that is capable of 100 MPH? What kind of power does it take to get to the century mark?

I built some 800's for for a customer in SC and he had #5 drives and ran 92-93 now we are building 1100's he will run 100 something??

BBB725 02-22-2007 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by VeeCat (Post 2034607)
Probably the ONLY one with a Staggard Engine set up.
Couldn't Post pictures but the link above has pictures for those interested. Nice Paint also!
VeeCat

Her are the pics

pkspx 02-22-2007 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by rsmyq9 (Post 2034007)
Hawkeye Boat Sales has a new 35 Outlaw with 700's that will run better than 100 mph. Seems that somebody had some photos on here of it being built.

Would it really take an additional 300 hp per side to push the 36 to 100 vs. the 35?

when I went for my factory tour, thats the same thing they said to me, 700s and 100mph baja.

rdp145 02-22-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by FeverMike (Post 2034587)
I'm not so sure I'd want to go 100mph in a Baja.

Are you the same guy that cries every time Sharkey comments on Fountains?:D

AvidBoater 02-22-2007 10:26 AM

What are the issues with Baja and high speeds ?

H2Xmark 02-22-2007 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by AvidBoater (Post 2033942)
Does anyone know of a 36' Baja Outlaw that is capable of 100 MPH? What kind of power does it take to get to the century mark?

Marine max in houston had a cust. with a 36 and twin 800's that ran real hard, had speedmaster drives on it, I would think if the boat had a straight bottom and had a high X , it would take about a true 900 hp+ to hit 100 gps.

H2Xmark 02-22-2007 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 2034824)
I built some 800's for for a customer in SC and he had #5 drives and ran 92-93 now we are building 1100's he will run 100 something??

Hey Tyler, Thanks for taking care of me on my fuel injectors, I was thinking it would take you a week or so to flow and balance 16 of them for me. Thanks for the prompt service.
Mark Rush

whirlwind 02-22-2007 03:11 PM

Baja in Canada
 
I ran my 388 Hustler in a Poker Run in Canada 4 or 5 yrs ago,it was a little rough,2s and 3s maybe,I was running about 85mph and the Baja couldnt keep up,it was so heavy in the rear it kept leaping out and cavitating.At the time,it was supposedly the worlds fastest Baja,but not that day on that water.He never did run with the rest of us,and one of the boats was Joe in his 32 Sunsation.I think 900s and 6s are way too much for the 36 Outlaw,

rdp145 02-22-2007 03:33 PM

So the worlds fastest Baja wouldn't run 85 huh?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

whirlwind 02-22-2007 03:36 PM

Not that day in that water

FeverMike 02-22-2007 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2034723)
GEE I THOUGHT THE QUESTON WAS [IF THERE WAS ANY 36S GOING A 100] NOT HEARING FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY BEAK BOATERS, I WOULDN'T GO A 100 IN A BAJA:rolleyes: !! .

Yo, you Haha (Baja) guys need to grow some thick skin. Us Fountain guys sure have around here.:evilb: :D Gold chains and hair dye to ya!:D

racesdad 02-22-2007 07:50 PM

Thats The Old Team Baja Raceboat From Here. Good Boat, Ran Well Too

VeeCat 02-22-2007 08:20 PM

BBB,
Thanks for posting the pictures.
VeeCat

ToTheMax 02-22-2007 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by RBT (Post 2034009)
Pier Pressure in Canada has one with 900's and #6's I recall it running a hair over 100.

RT

Was this boat a poker run regular in Ontario? I remember seeing one a number of years back on the G-bay run that had 900's and claimed to be the fastest 36 outlaw ever built (at the time). I recall them saying it would hit over 100.

Mentalpause 02-22-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by whirlwind (Post 2035342)
Not that day in that water

How did Joe do in his 32 that day? This is my favorite pic of him driving hard.

AIR TIME 02-22-2007 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by FeverMike (Post 2035587)
Yo, you Haha (Baja) guys need to grow some thick skin. Us Fountain guys sure have around here.:evilb: :D Gold chains and hair dye to ya!:D

mike you know I was joking, everyone thinks there boat is than the nexted guy:D but the new materials baja is using now will make a lighter stronger boat. and the 36 was a splash from the old 36 cig if I'm right.:D

FeverMike 02-22-2007 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2035819)
mike you know I was joking, everyone thinks there boat is than the nexted guy:D but the new materials baja is using now will make a lighter stronger boat. and the 36 was a splash from the old 36 cig if I'm right.:D

I know you are razzing me...trust me I can take it...love to dish it out too!:D

I have heard some say the 36 Baja was a splash from a Cigarette. However when I look at a Baja and Cig hull I see a much different bow profile. The Baja bow starts going up to the nose much sooner and the Cig is more blunt. Also a Cig has no pad and the strakes are bigger and much sharper and so is the transom edge.

Dd24skater 02-23-2007 06:24 AM

A 36 Outlaw will do verrrry close to 100 with the 700's from merc and the NXT drives. This is confirmed!

Nykamp 02-23-2007 07:16 AM

Park a 36 APACHE next to the 36 Outlaw and you will see where the outlaw came from, it might have a wider beam.

BBB725 02-23-2007 07:27 AM

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36 Apache - 36 Baja

RHC 02-23-2007 07:32 AM

Man,,, thats a pretty Apache!!!!:D :D

whirlwind 02-23-2007 07:34 AM

It was the Penatang Poker Run,that Baja was white and yellow if I remember correctly. As for Joe and the 32 that day,he was next to me all day,I had to be wide open to pull away,I couldnt believe he was there,cause I had my hands full with a 38 Hustler that ran good. John,I was on your 43 with Wayne,hell of a boat.The 32 Maximus that worked so good for you were mine.I hope you enjoying it.

Dock Holiday 02-23-2007 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RHC (Post 2035960)
Man,,, thats a pretty Apache!!!!:D :D

I think that same Apache is once again in Poker Runs America magazine from 1000 Islands with a VERY fine looking crew!!

Here's that same beautiful Apache trying to keep up with our 36 Outlaw. :evilb:


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