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tc 0707 03-26-2007 04:16 PM

want to buy 27 zr new for 71000usd cash no finance
 
i have decided that my last choice is donzi 27 zr i will pay 71 cash for a new one with 496 ho s send me e mail if interested and you will sell your boat cash immidiately no waiting for finance guys
thanks

bouyhunter 03-26-2007 04:29 PM

Um... 9 posts, choice between 3 different boats, mention of wire money, mention of USD (duh), made final decision in a few hours based on opinions here, and now looking for a deal.

Gonna have to throw up a flag on this one.

StillHaulin@63 03-26-2007 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by tc 0707 (Post 2071399)
i have decided that my last choice is donzi 27 zr i will pay 71 cash for a new one with 496 ho s send me e mail if interested and you will sell your boat cash immidiately no waiting for finance guys
thanks


S L O W Down my friend.

I have seen you post in multiple sections asking about all different kinds of boats.

You asked about the Donzi versus Baja. One is stepped, one is stright Deep V. Have you ridden in both, which do you like better, they have a completely different ride feel. Baja has higher gunwales, Donzi looks more streamlined. Do you have family who would appreciate the safety of the higher gunwales? With the same engine, the Baja will be slower than the Donzi based on hull design, is speed important to you? You want to buy new. Why? This is your first boat, and you want to take the depreciatation hit already, do you know how to dock it and not scratch it up? .

It sounds like you are excited, which is great, but you are setting yourself up for failure, I don't care how good of a deal you are getting, it will be there in a month.

Did you know some boats have windshield versus windscreens for more adequate wind protection? Did you know some swimsteps integrated versus bolton count if in additional footage for insurance, storage, and slipping? Did you know whch you enegine you choose could adversely affect your insurance premiums? Where is your dealer, local, good quality customer service? With a new boat, you are going to be a dealers best friend, not fun if they are 3 hours from you.

Slow down, tell us alittle about how, where, when, and who you boat with, and we can help you. But you are making a mistake going back and forth, asking for opinions from biased owners, then willing to send a check out today.

Sorry for the rant, no offense, but I am really trying to help you not make a mistake, IRRELEVANT of which boat you choose in the end.

tc 0707 03-26-2007 04:40 PM

thanks alot friend you really seemed to be a good help to me beside all the other wise wannabe's the thing is i already have a 44 sea ray for my family believe me my searay dealer is dying to sell me the baja 26 outlaw but i hate to stay confused for days which always happens to me and it feels worse then loosing 100 g the hint i can give you is i am gonna use this boat down in europe meditereninan prety rough and salty waters most of the time and i really like to speed on the sea it will be my toy beside the 44 sea ray andi am pretty sure my wife will always sit on the sea ray:) please still halin help me out here i already arrange the transport from us to europe

BY U BOY 03-26-2007 04:55 PM

"beside all the other wise wannabe's"

You asked for our opinions and we are giving them to you.

Tom A. 03-26-2007 04:57 PM

:fish: :blaster:

StillHaulin@63 03-26-2007 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by tc 0707 (Post 2071422)
thanks alot friend you really seemed to be a good help to me beside all the other wise wannabe's the thing is i already have a 44 sea ray for my family believe me my searay dealer is dying to sell me the baja 26 outlaw but i hate to stay confused for days which always happens to me and it feels worse then loosing 100 g the hint i can give you is i am gonna use this boat down in europe meditereninan prety rough and salty waters most of the time and i really like to speed on the sea it will be my toy beside the 44 sea ray andi am pretty sure my wife will always sit on the sea ray:) please still halin help me out here i already arrange the transport from us to europe

Ok, the wife is German so I know about Euros (I think LOL).

The med is big seas, im my opinion, a deeper V (Outlaw 26) is going to benefit you more than a stepped boat (Donzi). Stepped boats can be dangerous if not driven correctly. Deep V have a HUGE margin for error. But don't discount other manufacturers and models either.

Saltwater, you would proabably want to stay away from boats with a 454 or 502 mag as they are raw water cooling. The 496 or 496HO's are closed cooling, will last longer in the salt environment. Consdier a 525 EFI, expensive, and I think raw water, but the speed for either of those boats will make you happy.

I would probably say go with a windscreen versus a windshield, as you have more of a feel for whats in front of you without a windhsield

Sounds like you can get a good deal on the Baja, as Sea Ray and Baja are both owned by Brunswick marine. That doesn't mean to do it, just means you might have to work harder if you choose another manufacturer.

Are you limted to 26 or 27'?

Insurance and storage a concern?

Keep the answers coming, we will help you.

Chris

bouyhunter 03-26-2007 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Tom A. (Post 2071450)
:fish: :blaster:

Glad I'm not the only one
:fish: :blaster:

TexomaPowerboater 03-26-2007 05:15 PM

Don't really know how we can help you, sounds like you already bought a boat "money wired" and arranged to have it shiped back.

I would go with the 29 Fountain simply becuase I think that ten-twenty years down the road the fountain is going to look better than the Donzi. If you don't believe me just take a look at some 1985-1992 fountains and compare to the same age of a Donzi or a Baja, just my .02.

All companies make good boats.

Chuck 03-26-2007 07:41 PM

I'm calling bullchit:evilb:

Chuck 03-26-2007 07:43 PM

Let me guess.... your going to wire a little extra for transport, and could the buyer pay the shipping company now.

bouyhunter 03-26-2007 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 2071648)
I'm calling bullchit:evilb:

Ya Think??

I actually hate throwing the flag, but I remember Bigscotty.
And I truely appreciate the good nature of some on this board to continue to help, but I've been burned before, not on the board, but in my own life.
F- me once, shame on you, F- me twice shame on me

This scam is not nearly as well crafted.
Man... at least put some work into the scam.

AND, if I'm wrong, I'll recant everything and provide a public apology, as well as accept my public flogging.

StillHaulin@63 03-26-2007 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by bouyhunter (Post 2071682)

This scam is not nearly as well crafted.
Man... at least put some work into the scam.

AND, if I'm wrong, I'll recant everything and provide a public apology, as well as accept my public flogging.


I agree its pretty lame if it is a scam. He was starting too many threads asking questions about the boats though, nothing to do with price, so I don't know. Just sounded like an overzealous guy who got an idea in his head willing to pull the trigger WAY too quick.

Unless is was to poll us about which boats draw the most interest on Ebay :D :D

Who knows....

tc 0707 03-27-2007 01:47 AM

dear stilhaulin i will get the boat in next three days definetly considering your advises and really apriciated them and for the rest of the crew that thinks that i am a scammer my name is tolga comertoglu and my email is [email protected] i will put a pin number here and you guys will send your public apoligies here i was just being curios since it is my first boat remember your first one...........

TeamSaris 03-27-2007 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by bouyhunter (Post 2071411)
Um... 9 posts, choice between 3 different boats, mention of wire money, mention of USD (duh), made final decision in a few hours based on opinions here, and now looking for a deal.

Gonna have to throw up a flag on this one.

Ill back you up on that.

rush 03-27-2007 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by tc 0707 (Post 2071970)
dear stilhaulin i will get the boat in next three days definetly considering your advises and really apriciated them and for the rest of the crew that thinks that i am a scammer my name is tolga comertoglu and my email is [email protected] i will put a pin number here and you guys will send your public apoligies here i was just being curios since it is my first boat remember your first one...........

I thought you had a 44 Searay. Yea right.

haulinvols 03-27-2007 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by tc 0707 (Post 2071970)
my name is tolga comertoglu and my email is [email protected] i will put a pin number here and you guys will send your public apoligies here i was just being curios since it is my first boat remember your first one...........



thanks alot friend you really seemed to be a good help to me beside all the other wise wannabe's the thing is i already have a 44 sea ray for my family believe me my searay dealer is dying to sell me the baja 26 outlaw
So first boat, or second boat? Which is it?

I was watching this trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it does not look like your story adds up.

Dean Ferry 03-27-2007 06:48 AM

Send pics when you get it.
Dean

Stormrider 03-27-2007 08:04 AM

instead of soliciting members of this site, y dont you just call a dealer w/ a used one.
and 71usd wont get you a 27zr.

sellsman11 03-27-2007 08:43 AM

Cmon guys....give him a break! $71k is a helluva downpayment on a 27ZR. How will you be handling the balance?

tc 0707 03-27-2007 09:48 AM

this is the first power boat i am buying sea ray is acrusier not a performance boat i just neede help but i do not understand why you guy have been calling me scammer and insaulting medid my questions do you any harm or ofended you sorry guys thanks for the ones that are helping as for the rest relax guy this is just a forum you wont be harmed by answering any quetion by the way i bought my sea ray from marine max down in west palm beach the dealers name is peter klein if you wanna play the dedective before you next insault...........

jordy 03-27-2007 09:53 AM

You know, a little punctuation makes things easier to read for everyone who is actually trying to help you. ;)

AIR TIME 03-27-2007 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by rush (Post 2071993)
I thought you had a 44 Searay. Yea right.

true thats a boat a 44 and harder to dock than a 26 footer and I wouldn't send a email he could get our info maybe :eek: :rolleyes:

TexomaPowerboater 03-27-2007 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 2071650)
Let me guess.... your going to wire a little extra for transport, and could the buyer pay the shipping company now.

I have had two people try this BS in the last 2 days

TexomaPowerboater 03-27-2007 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by sellsman11 (Post 2072130)
Cmon guys....give him a break! $71k is a helluva downpayment on a 27ZR. How will you be handling the balance?


http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/5/84178665.htm

2006 27 Donzi ZR for under $75,000.


Sorry in advance stormrider.

Stormrider 03-27-2007 02:40 PM

hmmm... this sounds like a deal... especially from the UK.

"2006 Donzi 27 ZR, 27' the newest donzi out! free flight to seattle for the buyer to demo this model. Introductory priced at only 89950"

bouyhunter 03-27-2007 05:34 PM

Yesterday, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by tc 0707 (Post 2071422)
thanks alot friend you really seemed to be a good help to me beside all the other wise wannabe's the thing is i already have a 44 sea ray for my family believe me my searay dealer is dying to sell me the baja 26 outlaw but i hate to stay confused for days which always happens to me and it feels worse then loosing 100 g the hint i can give you is i am gonna use this boat down in europe meditereninan prety rough and salty waters most of the time and i really like to speed on the sea it will be my toy beside the 44 sea ray andi am pretty sure my wife will always sit on the sea ray:) please still halin help me out here i already arrange the transport from us to europe

Yesterday, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by tc 0707 (Post 2071293)
please help guys i wanna buy 27 dozi from a dealer mid usa i need my boat to be shrinkwrapped cradled and tansport to savannah georgia and also if you can give me a good rate for a ship transporation from usa to turkey (mediterranian)
thanks a lot

Less than 2 hours to arrange shipment to Georgia, and Europe. THAT'S INCREDIBLE!!! You have asked questions here, and people have responded. May I now ask a question of you?

Please tell us who arranged this so quickly, I'm sure it would be good information for all on the board - as well as shipping costs, it would be good to know of a good international shipper and what rates to expect in shipping a boat to Europe.

ToTheMax 03-27-2007 06:08 PM

As most students at my nerdy undergrad would say...

"Sketchy!"

bouyhunter 03-27-2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by ToTheMax (Post 2072838)
As most students at my nerdy undergrad would say...

"Sketchy!"

:D
:evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

jeff1000man 03-27-2007 06:13 PM

I actually used to send trucks to sketchy guys like this. I did make money on the transaction in the long run.

Never helped with skinny or loser deals like this one.

dockrocker 03-27-2007 09:20 PM

I'm simply amazed that there are no boat dealerships in all of Europe. Sounds like an opportunity to me!

bouyhunter 03-27-2007 09:25 PM

If you want to go for it, I'll have paper's drawn up 50/50.
We could make a killing!!!:D

tc 0707 03-28-2007 03:46 AM

dear bouy hunter i have purchased a boat for 77000 dollar with all the options brand new the cradles cost 1000usd shrinkwrapping 300 usd 900usd inlandfreight to savannah port georgia the freight forwarder company is monaca ltd they charge 175 usd for documentations the ship company is TURKON LTD they charge 5430usd to the port in europe see if you wanna help do it as i do not by questioning me and bull****ting......

tc 0707 03-28-2007 03:47 AM

and dockrocler there are no well maintained donzi dealer where i live ....

rainmn 03-28-2007 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by tc 0707 (Post 2073330)
dear bouy hunter i have purchased a boat for 77000 dollar with all the options brand new the cradles cost 1000usd shrinkwrapping 300 usd 900usd inlandfreight to savannah port georgia the freight forwarder company is monaca ltd they charge 175 usd for documentations the ship company is TURKON LTD they charge 5430usd to the port in europe see if you wanna help do it as i do not by questioning me and bull****ting......


From what dealer?

t500hps 03-28-2007 07:47 AM

Foreigners on our Board are more often than not...scammers, but that doesn't mean they all are or that this guy is. He hasn't asked anyone for anything other than advice. The deal he's putting together is quite strange and quick, but look at the things (and money) LubeJobs spends on weird deals. (Sorry Gino :D ). If he already bought a 44 Searay then he already knows of one shipping company to contact. And as for the puntuation comment, who here can talk (or type) in a second language??? My brother can carry on a conversation in 5 and it isn't easy!......I haven't even mastered English yet!
Good Luck whoever you are, if the rest of you guys think he's a scammer, just ignore him.......he'll eventually just go away.

bouyhunter 03-28-2007 08:05 AM

tc0707 - congrats on the purchase.
:rolleyes:
You certainly made a quick decision, and even arranged the deal in a timely matter.
What color? Any Pics??
The dealer had to at least send pics.

Tom A. 03-28-2007 08:29 AM

tc 0707,

Congratulations on your timely purchase and shipping arrangements. I apologize for assuming you had alterior motives and/or were a bullsh*tter. This website has been recently hit by many scams and specifically overseas ones so you can understand our apprehention to believe your sincerity. I too am in the process of purchasing a boat my self and it will be over a month before the deal is complete. Good luck with the new boat, show us a picture, and don't let our initial responses keep you away from the board. We are a tight knit group who really look out for each other and as with any elite group it is sometimes difficult for outsiders to break in.
As far as I am concerned you are now one of us, welcome to the OSO family.

Sincerely,
Tom A.

tc 0707 03-28-2007 08:32 AM

i definetly do not understand about the poncho thing the boat is a blue hull side with since i am not gold member this site does not allow me to put the pics and t500hps thanks alot for your understanding bouy hunter in your land when you pay it cash not finance believe me everything happens in a light speed i put the names of all the companies there call them and verify i am still waiting your public apology

hammer01 03-28-2007 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tom A. (Post 2073469)
tc 0707,

Congratulations on your timely purchase and shipping arrangements. I apologize for assuming you had alterior motives and/or were a bullsh*tter. This website has been recently hit by many scams and specifically overseas ones so you can understand our apprehention to believe your sincerity. I too am in the process of purchasing a boat my self and it will be over a month before the deal is complete. Good luck with the new boat, show us a picture, and don't let our initial responses keep you away from the board. We are a tight knit group who really look out for each other and as with any elite group it is sometimes difficult for outsiders to break in.
As far as I am concerned you are now one of us, welcome to the OSO family.

Sincerely,
Tom A.

Finally, a classy response to a foreign boater who just wants some input on a boat. Everyone else, man, you guys are tough. I hate scammers like everyone, but if you did not want to give him harmless advice, just don't post. Sorry, I thought this board was here to help, that's why I look forward to getting good info. I guess I am just saying all of this because my wife just came back from a week in Europe (Paris and Switzerland) and she comments on how rude they are there and how nice it is when one person goes out of their way to help you out. It is a mighty different culture there and for those who do not speak Swedish, French, etc., I think we could give a little latitude. Sorry, I just feel we are lucky to be members of the best boating website on the internet and I hope we don't drop to "the losers" that are out there and start talking down to those that truly want some helpful info. Again, my .02


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