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JMPH 03-31-2007 07:54 AM

I also have 2 or 3 full jugs if anyone is interested
Joe

enticer 03-31-2007 09:01 AM

Today the (wholesale) ranges from $737.00 to $890.00 (Depending on the distributor)

I still have 32 (30#) bottles of it left.....But have not been using it. It's better to change the customer over to the replacements

A friend had a bottle of R-12 in LA and when Katrina came through and blew a tree down on his garage....it burst the bottle. He wanted to buy one from me....but the cost to ship it is ridiculous

Michael1 03-31-2007 11:21 PM

Info on R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Michael

Zudnic 04-01-2007 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by enticer (Post 2076892)
Today the (wholesale) ranges from $737.00 to $890.00 (Depending on the distributor)

Thats about what we paid after our system leaked. Have 10K sq ft of CA storage not a cheap bill to replace it all... :eek:

enticer 04-01-2007 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Zudnic (Post 2077566)
Thats about what we paid after our system leaked. Have 10K sq ft of CA storage not a cheap bill to replace it all... :eek:

What is CA storage? The amounts I posted were the price range for a 30# can of R-12. R-12 (sales by the pound at $80.00 to #100.00)is used in refrigeration..I know...I know it is/was in autos...but actually you have refrigeration systems in autos because of the lower evap temps needed to cool. The replacements are numerous, but #1 is R-134a (not quite as effective, but close). R-22 is for air conditioning is A/C systems...yes years ago R-12 was used in A/C systems until they figured it all out...and then you Carrier who made their own combination of R-500 or called Carrine 500, which was a blend of R-22 and R-12
Enough schooling........

shawn 11-27-2007 01:55 PM

Guys, its time to move, the bottle weighs 30 pounds in the box. If interested, please make an offer and have a current license to purchase R12.

Shawn

excalibur32 11-27-2007 03:07 PM

you need a epa card not a license.

enticer 11-27-2007 03:12 PM

If you selling a private individual...you should not need anything but the CASH

Edward R. Cozzi 11-27-2007 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by epeek (Post 2074389)
Why would anyone want it? It is very simple to convert
an R-12 system to 134 and it works quite well. Just
flush,put on a new drier/accumulator,change the mineral
oil to ester oil,install new fittings & charge with r-134.
Works perfect.

Finally, a voice of reason!

I have converted many R-12 systems to R134A with no ill effects to the system or the performance. The biggest mistake I see being made is overcharging the R134A system. The converted system requires less than the R-12 system. My R134A conversions cool better than the original because I use less freon.

Al Gore wants to buy all the old R-12 to save the ozone layer.

Neverfastenuf 11-27-2007 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Edward R. Cozzi (Post 2350333)
Finally, a voice of reason!

I have converted many R-12 systems to R134A with no ill effects to the system or the performance. The biggest mistake I see being made is overcharging the R134A system. The converted system requires less than the R-12 system. My R134A conversions cool better than the original because I use less freon.

Al Gore wants to buy all the old R-12 to save the ozone layer.

Some of the old VIR systems do not work well with 134@.

Sam


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