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Originally Posted by razor1115
(Post 2132242)
Great minds nursed on a steady diet of beer think alike... another hypothesis we should all agree on!:D :drink:
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LOL....how fast are you going up a 5mph river current if your GPS says you are going 30MPH?? :D
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Even if out in 28 to 30 degrees you might get a little slushy.
But to freeze solid, enough to crack a block, it was left out. |
No way.
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Originally Posted by Croozin2
(Post 2132497)
Now that's a friggin' hypothesis I can live with! In fact, in about 4 hours I'm going to begin my weekend diet!:drink: :evilb: :drink:
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Just for the record, I have a ice machine that makes a 12 by 12 by 1 inch block of ice in 20 min.
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Originally Posted by LubeJobs42
(Post 2131847)
I have a question? I have a friend (i know hard to believe). He has a fountain. He sent his boat up north months back. On the way up the transporter ran into a snow storm. The temp dropped to 30 degrees. the transporter pulled over, dumped a few gallons of antifreeze into each sea strainer and cranked the motors. Never strarted them! Got back n the road, drove about 5 hours to the destination where supposably the boat was put inside a heated warehouse. Long story short, now both blocks and 2 heads are cracked. Because the motors were never started and the thermostats never opened the blocks were full of water. My question is, could they have frozen that bad in that short of time in those just below freezing temps while in transport. My opinion is no friggen way, the boat had to be left outside for a period of time in colder temp to do that kind of damage.
This is a huge problem, we need expert advice. We all know how may experts we have on OSO!! Gino, Where was the boat trailered from? Fresh water boat, salt water boat? Salt water freezes at 28 degrees, fresh water 32.... Even if a salt water boat was fresh water flushed there would still be some salt content in the water....so say 30 is freezing point.... First the block would have to cool down to 30 degrees because it insulates the water...that would take a while......... First thing that freezes are the oil coolers and water pumps...not blocks and heads... But I guess anything is possible....:rolleyes: |
The oil company forgot to deliver oil to my house in Maine. I got a funny feeling one day and asked Biggus on the board to run over and check the house. My house was down to 24 degrees inside. This is a VERY well insulated house so it took a little while to get down that low. Kurt said that there was zero ice in the toilet and none of the pipes were frozen. So I say that some one left the boat out for a very long time. Even if your motors started to freeze on the way up it would take a good amount of time for it to freeze so hard that it would actually crack the blocks.
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Originally Posted by rush
(Post 2132550)
Just for the record, I have a ice machine that makes a 12 by 12 by 1 inch block of ice in 20 min.
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Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 2132600)
Gino,
Where was the boat trailered from? Fresh water boat, salt water boat? Salt water freezes at 28 degrees, fresh water 32.... Even if a salt water boat was fresh water flushed there would still be some salt content in the water....so say 30 is freezing point.... First the block would have to cool down to 30 degrees because it insulates the water...that would take a while......... First thing that freezes are the oil coolers and water pumps...not blocks and heads... But I guess anything is possible....:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by LubeJobs42
(Post 2132904)
Salt water. The boat left northern fl and went to Kentucky. The boat sat outside during the 3 month stay. That's all there is to it.
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Originally Posted by LubeJobs42
(Post 2132904)
Salt water. The boat left northern fl and went to Kentucky. The boat sat outside during the 3 month stay. That's all there is to it.
Personally, I'd blame the owner for not winterizing it before it went north or the place is stayed for 3 months and if they were suppposed to winterize it. 2 years ago I went on my honeymoon and we had a noreaster, I had friends check up on the boat for me and make sure it was safe while I was gone. |
Originally Posted by tanner
(Post 2132035)
Would have thought the freeze plugs would have popped first
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Originally Posted by CigDaze
(Post 2132077)
True...to a point.
In an active thermodynamic system (active meaning there exists heat flux - a transfer of heat at some rate), moving air will have some effect. With inanimate objects that don't produce their own heat and the system is stabilized, wind will not have any effect. In other words, if it's 30 degrees outside and the engine block is already stable at 30 degrees there will be no effect of wind. 30 degrees is 30 degrees no matter if the air is still or moving --- Now, if the engine block is at 40 degrees and it's 30 degrees outside, in still air the block will cool down to 30 at a given rate until it stabilizes at 30 degrees depending on the air's ability to absorb heat. The air immediately surrounding the block gains heat and warms slightly (this slows heat transfer because the temp difference is diminished) and it thus transfers this heat slowly to the air further and further away. Now, if this the air is moving swiftly past the block and it's at 30 degrees, the air immediately in contact with the block is always at 30 degrees (no warming effect), and it will absorb heat more quickly than if it were still. When weather people speak of 'wind chill' it does not apply to objects that do not create their own heat. It's strictly an approximate measure of how 'cold' it will 'feel' to humans with a body temp of 98.6. Say for instance, if 30 degree air is moving at 20 mph past your body, it will absorb heat away from you at an increased rate approximately equal to still air that's perhaps at 0 degrees. For an object that does not make its own heat and it's already the same temperature as the surrounding air, wind chill does not apply. Back to the original question: I can't possibly see how a block can freeze over the course of 4 hours in 30 degree temperatures. Think of how long it takes to freeze an ice cube in your freezer which is typically about 0 degrees and the water is in direct contact with this cold air. I call B.S. |
I agree with Panther.
Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 2132952)
Personally, I'd blame the owner for not winterizing it before it went north or the place is stayed for 3 months and if they were suppposed to winterize it.
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Originally Posted by BBB725
(Post 2133089)
Did the plane take off from the treadmill yet?:D
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Okay I have been reading all this about how long does it take a marine engine block to crack. I have 30 years experience of owning a boat dealership.
My rule of thumb is this! 30 degrees 30 hours. 24 degrees 24 hours. 15 degrees 15 hours. 5 degrees 5 hours. This is of course your engine in a covered engine room. Like a Sea Ray, Cobalt, Regal, Rinker, Chaparral, ski boats race boats etc. You get the point! John... |
Originally Posted by Capt. John
(Post 4719109)
Okay I have been reading all this about how long does it take a marine engine block to crack. I have 30 years experience of owning a boat dealership.
My rule of thumb is this! 30 degrees 30 hours. 24 degrees 24 hours. 15 degrees 15 hours. 5 degrees 5 hours. This is of course your engine in a covered engine room. Like a Sea Ray, Cobalt, Regal, Rinker, Chaparral, ski boats race boats etc. You get the point! John... |
Originally Posted by Alwhite00
(Post 4719133)
you-realize this is a 12 year old thread right?
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