I could say about ALL brands. Cig & OL included. Hey
a top gun is a top gun. The only difference looks wise
is the paint job. Odviously if Baja..or any other brand
for that matter... were selling boats for a 1/2 mil and
up, they could warrant an 80k paint job. But since
they are in a certain price bracket they have to have
a handful of paint schemes. The reason you see more
Baja's and Fountains is plain & simple. PRICE! If everyone
had a 500k to spend on a boat...all you would see would
be Cigarettes & O'L's ! Hell,one of the best boats I owned
was a 28 Checkmate. Solid as a Rock,still runnin our lake,
17 years old,and still looks beautiful.

HEY!

Here's a guy with a Fountain... LET'S GET HIM!

[QUOTE=epeek;2164781]I could say about ALL brands. Cig & OL included. Hey
a top gun is a top gun. [QUOTE]


I understand you point but disagree. the quote was:


"The only reason I do not own one is that i dont want to run down the lake and feel like I am in my car passing the same one every few miles. The make a solid boat just not unique"

I don't think you could ever be cruising down the lake/river or ocean look over and see an outerlimts/Cigarette/Skater/MTI etc. and say, "there goes another one of those, just like the rest or just like mine...."

Custom built means custom built. Not production. Apples to oranges.

Production boats are production boats....But the option is there to customize your production boat too. That's another nice thing about Baja. They have a customizing process just so they can customize it for you if you wish.



Bill, hows life?? Hows the Baja (s) running?? We may do a little running on the 4th of july and anchor up in the harbor to watch the fireworks if you're around, get the boat wet!

Look here are the facts Baja is a production boat while the vast majority of performance boats are custom built, and there are pros and cons to both. Truth is I have a lot of respect for Baja's I think they represent one of the best values in performance boating and I think any owner of a Baja is entitled to be proud of there boat as much as any other boater, anybody on the water is welcome to run next to me any time as long as there about having a good time and dont have a chip on thier shoulder.....That being said I will sink every Baja and Fountain in the world if Mike Fiore gives me a 47gtx

well said....well, except for the last part

Could someone clarify what makes a boat "custom".

some here may say 'not mass produced'.
other defintions:
1. built for owner, per all specs.
2. built to order.

is a cig custom??? i'd say in the HP world, a Lipship cig is.
Forumla, donzi, baja, no... if you have a dealer w/ boats sitting on the floor... no.
Nortech, OL, Pantera, Saber, Extreme, Joker, MTI... yes.

How's this... Sunseeker: NO Magnum: YES

All the little guys that need customer orders to be able to produce...


to me, custom is my dads 40 knowles.
the hull was designed for him from scratch.
cold molded.
interior, deck, cockpit, helm... layout per him.
no liners or molds... each pc cut to fit, then glassed in.
Not another one like it in the world.

just like building a custom house from the foundation to the choice of light bulbs.

did that clarify it at all?? probably not sorry... just my $0.025

Your dads boat is what I consider custom...A one off...to his specs. Now that is custom!
The word custom gets thrown around alot on OSO. Especially
when we are talking about the high dollar builders. Seems
to me that all their boats come from molds just like
all manufacturers. The difference is in the materials and
workmanship. That certainly doesn't constitute "custom"
What it does is give you a better boat for more money.

The term custom is a little vague anymore. Is a Fountain custom? If so, why can't I order one without power, or customer provides power? Doesn't seem too custom, if you can't put in your own custom engine. And I can order a Baja with or without a whole slew of options, just like a custom boat. Some of the finish work I have been seeing on late model Bajas has been as good or better than some customs I've been looking at. Some of the Baja prices are pushing up against the custom builder prices, too. The lines are getting blurred.

Michael

can you walk into the dealer and build it from scratch...to every aspect of your tastes?? Then yea, it's custom...And yes, Phil builds them that way....