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Strip Poker 388 07-28-2007 02:51 PM

1 Bad Ass Video (Boost and Roostetails)
 
This is BoostBros vid I found on the net.Impressive!!!!!
Blackcloud 388 Hustler,Listen to the blowers:evilb: :evilb:

little over 120
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...ellfrom100.jpg



Ck this one at the start of the run.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...itled_0005.jpg

BY U BOY 07-28-2007 04:26 PM

Killin Cats:D

ToTheMax 07-28-2007 05:09 PM

Nice vids. Can't wait to do the 1000 Islands run again. I cross that bridge all the time :D

Playn 07-28-2007 05:34 PM

Nice!

pearlyellow 07-28-2007 05:59 PM

OMG sweet

SLOWOUTBOARD 07-28-2007 08:33 PM

motors are built on long island buy big sals.saw them run on the dyno 2 years ago they were pusin 1350+hp back then.:D

satisfactionII 07-28-2007 09:05 PM

Cool. :cool-smiley-011:

iamfaster 07-28-2007 09:41 PM

Big Sal's!! He built me the mini version of those..

iamfaster 07-28-2007 09:42 PM

Hey Greg, whos the spanish kids on the bow of your boat?

Jakkle5 07-29-2007 09:29 AM

These are only pictures not videos.

NOMOGOFAST 07-29-2007 10:18 AM

That boat is sick. Bet its a handful @120:D Mine was at anything over 100, can't even imagine 120 w/ probably a full tank of fuel and 4 people.

KNOT-RIGHT 07-29-2007 12:33 PM

Freakin Awsome!


Actually the arnesons provide very little bow lift
keeping more boat in the water!

Griswald 07-29-2007 01:22 PM

Is it just me or is there quite a bit of blow-by coming out of those breathers?

NJgr8ful 07-29-2007 03:00 PM

Holy chit that is some sweeeeet sound :evilb: Nice Rob thanks! :drink:

Griff 07-29-2007 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Griswald (Post 2215650)
Is it just me or is there quite a bit of blow-by coming out of those breathers?


I noticed that too. Looks like just on the port engine.

johnnyboatman 07-29-2007 07:12 PM

with the blow by, that thing still rocks:party-smiley-048:

miamioffshore 07-29-2007 10:13 PM

Wow!!!:d

Strip Poker 388 07-30-2007 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jakkle5 (Post 2215515)
These are only pictures not videos.

your pop up blocker got it:D
http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/b...ellfrom100.flv


http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/b...itled_0005.flv

zitoracing 07-30-2007 01:17 PM

Man the motors sound sick.

SKRAMER 07-30-2007 01:26 PM

Nice videos!!!!

Young Performance 07-30-2007 01:26 PM

Strip,
Do you or anyone else know how to get in touch with the guys that own the boat. I would love to pick their brains to found out how they got the boat to handle so well. I did a pair of 925 EFI's in a 38 slingshot with Arnesons and can't drive the boat past 100 without it getting completely out of control. It's a shame, because the boat runs 94 mph at 4000 rpm and thats about all you can safely do. Their is so much left that you can't use. He should have just had me build 750 hp for the boat. Any help would be great. Thanks, Eddie.

custom29scarab 07-30-2007 01:48 PM

If you go to the other site speedwake and pm boostbros they are the ones that orginally posted those videos. They may be able to help you out.

OL40SVX 07-30-2007 01:51 PM

I believe black cloud did bottom mods so it would handle the speed. I think on the newer ones like your friends you can do it but not on the older ones like strips.

Jigsaw89 07-30-2007 06:33 PM

Great vids! Gotta love when a v-hull is distancing itself from several cat boats!

Rik 07-30-2007 07:19 PM

Dr. John Merola owns the boat. Rick Merola from Aqua Mania's brother.

It is the old "Black Cloud" boat.

Over 100 stability is due to a stagger setup vs. a side by side and then the bottom mods to keep the boat from chine walking at speeds over 100.

OL40SVX 07-30-2007 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2217319)
Dr. John Merola owns the boat. Rick Merola from Aqua Mania's brother.

It is the old "Black Cloud" boat.

Over 100 stability is due to a stagger setup vs. a side by side and then the bottom mods to keep the boat from chine walking at speeds over 100.

The boats not a stagger though.

Rik 07-30-2007 10:27 PM

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Ohhh..

Look closely at the propeller shaft center lines of the 388 "Black Cloud" boat.

The propeller shaft centers are some 15.5" closer than what is on the 388 out of TN. (Which is an AWESOME boat I hear)

This makes a difference when the boat gets going over 100 as the bottom is lifting out from under the standard side by side center line drives where as with the stagger the propellers are still in the water.

Remember there is more than one way to skin a cat. The Black Cloud boat has side by side engines but it has stagger centerline drives.

Young Performance 07-30-2007 10:56 PM

I was told that the inner most strake was taken out all the way to the rear step. I have talked to Joe at Hustler and he said that while it is possible because the boat has a solid strake, it will not benefit the boat much. I'm not sure, but I can't see where it would hurt. I would like to know if that is all they did.

Rik,
I am going to get with you at the end of the season and change the tubes to the larger ones (asd7's???) with the larger skegs. May make the boat a little safer. I would love for you to take a ride in Eric's boat, it is SICK.
Thanks to all that replied. I will try to reach those guys on Speedwake. Eddie.

Rik 07-30-2007 11:07 PM

I'd like to ride in that thing.

Even Joe said the acceleration is unbelievable.

call me sometime.

415-485-0788

Young Performance 07-30-2007 11:30 PM

I will be in touch. I just need an extra hour or two. :D I've never been on the phone with you for less than an hour:D
I don't know who's worse, you or me, when it comes to bs'ing about boats.

thunderusone 07-30-2007 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2217708)
I'd like to ride in that thing.

Even Joe said the acceleration is unbelievable.

call me sometime.

415-485-0788

I think he had a moment of acceleration clarity when he was getting off the floor from gigging it and torqueing the boat over on the bow rail.... "Eddie, What da Phuck did you put back dere"?!!

Strip Poker 388 07-31-2007 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 2216724)
Strip,
Do you or anyone else know how to get in touch with the guys that own the boat. I would love to pick their brains to found out how they got the boat to handle so well. I did a pair of 925 EFI's in a 38 slingshot with Arnesons and can't drive the boat past 100 without it getting completely out of control. It's a shame, because the boat runs 94 mph at 4000 rpm and thats about all you can safely do. Their is so much left that you can't use. He should have just had me build 750 hp for the boat. Any help would be great. Thanks, Eddie.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/member.php?u=47652


Eddie I was told that Eric's boat had the bottom mods?


I would think modifiying the strake would help with stearn lift,settling the boat some,There is some picks fountain40icbm posted of the bottom in the Hustler thread.Only the newer ones can be cut on.Mine needs it:(

Young Performance 07-31-2007 12:20 AM

Eric's boat has only about 18 in. of the strake removed, from the transom. Joe said that we can remove the rest if we want. The boat has entirely to much stern lift.

Strip Poker 388 07-31-2007 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2217671)
Ohhh..

Look closely at the propeller shaft center lines of the 388 "Black Cloud" boat.

The propeller shaft centers are some 15.5" closer than what is on the 388 out of TN. (Which is an AWESOME boat I hear)

This makes a difference when the boat gets going over 100 as the bottom is lifting out from under the standard side by side center line drives where as with the stagger the propellers are still in the water.

Remember there is more than one way to skin a cat. The Black Cloud boat has side by side engines but it has stagger centerline drives.


Rik in your opinion what would make a bravo 388 like mine handle better above 100mph?

Strip Poker 388 07-31-2007 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 2217762)
Eric's boat has only about 18 in. of the strake removed, from the transom. Joe said that we can remove the rest if we want. The boat has entirely to much stern lift.


Could it the the props?

thunderusone 07-31-2007 12:28 AM

No no Yes Yes MAybe Maybe

Young Performance 07-31-2007 12:30 AM

The props have been modified by BBlades as per Joe. Some of the trailing edge cup has been taken off to help reduce lift and they have been turned into round ears. They are the best props so far. They are 17x36, turned into 16.5x36 5 blade Mercs.

Rik 07-31-2007 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2217765)
Rik in your opinion what would make a bravo 388 like mine handle better above 100mph?

First, define better.

What are you hoping to achieve, in exact words.

The 388 was designed to run well with HP 500's and in its day was good at running with that power.

Now days, 500 hp is nothing and the boats are capable of going way faster.

The stern lift from the bottom that works so well at 80-82 works against it at 100-110.

What trim tabs do you have? Where do you run them?

What is your speed? Honestly?

OL40SVX 07-31-2007 07:59 AM

Here's the pics I took of the strakes of the Miami show Hustler.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=152786

Strip Poker 388 07-31-2007 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2217778)
First, define better.

What are you hoping to achieve, in exact words.

The 388 was designed to run well with HP 500's and in its day was good at running with that power.

Now days, 500 hp is nothing and the boats are capable of going way faster.

The stern lift from the bottom that works so well at 80-82 works against it at 100-110.

What trim tabs do you have? Where do you run them?

What is your speed? Honestly?

Trying to get it to handle better,its porposing and will chine walk real easy above 97mph.I figure if I didnt have to conteract the chine walk it would be more efficient on the top end.Its doesn't like flat water,with a little chop its easier to drive and faster, 101 and a 102.2mph GPS. I have the 380's I used them at first and found not using them and balancing it by steering it (keeping it from chine walking)it was faster.I am having to over trim it which is making it porpos in the flater water to get the speed,if I trim down just a hair it will slow down.Its faster porposing.I guess I could be at a wall at a 100 with this set up?

Rob:D


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