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Old 09-17-2007, 06:36 PM
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Harry also did the 23' Magnum which became the basis for a hundred 7' wide hulls and boat companies.
So is this the origination of the 24x7 hull? Same as my 24 Pantera??

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WOW! Awesome stuff....somebody should do a graphic "family tree!"
Good idea!
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:41 AM
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Wait! There's more! When Aronow turned the 27' Magnum into the 28' Cigarette, he added a second gunwale to the plug, allowing him to pull two different molds from the plug. The lower one became the 26' Cary, then the 29' Cary. In the same time period, Larry Smith of California bought a 27' Magnum, and amazingly, came out with the 29' Scarab exactly two months later. JC Simon took the 44' MSV and shortened the mold by dropping in a new transom and "conceived" the 38' Coyote, 37' and 33' Banana, Sonic, etc.
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So Brownie, who actually "splashed" the Ark in the first place?
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Noah. The original was built by L. Ron Hubbard
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Further to shrinking and stretching, Harry built the 28' Magnum for Don, and it became a popular racer. Don cut it down vertically to make the 27 and 28 foot Magnum Sport models. He swiped one when he sold Magnum to Apeco, and turned it into the 28' Cigarette. The 32' Cary/Cigarette was stretched to 36', then to 40', back to 39', up to 44' (Performer), down to 37' (Midnight Express) back to 36' (Mirage), down to 33' (Avanti) back to 32' (Contender, et al). The 35' went to 37 1/2", 38', 39' 41' (Apache), 44' (Slingshot), 47' (Apache), split for USA cat. The 23' Magnum became P and D, Excalibur, Superboat, and maybe 50 others. Before T2rex starts beating on me, Linder did the excellent 21' Challenger which became, Apache and several others. Ed Cozzi, the 32' Cary/Cigarette and the 35' Cigarette are entirely different. The 36' chine was drawn with a #43 Kand E ships curve, and the 35' chine is straight for the first 12'.
I went back and re-read all my posts in that thread and I couldn't find where I EVER said ANYTHING about a 32' Cary and a 35' Cigarette being the same. Brownie, I don't mind you implying that something I posted is lawn fertilizer, but at least quote me correctly. I'm thin-skinned and my feelings are hurt easily.

I know I never said anything about a 32' Cary, because I know almost nothing about a 32' Cary!
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Ed, Better check for identity theft. On 9/05/07 some phony wrote:"here's a little trivia: The 35' Mistress (8' beam) and the 36' Cigarettte (9'6" beam) are the same except blah blah blah. Taint so.....................
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Ed, Better check for identity theft. On 9/05/07 some phony wrote:"here's a little trivia: The 35' Mistress (8' beam) and the 36' Cigarettte (9'6" beam) are the same except blah blah blah. Taint so.....................
I did say that. I got that straight from Scott Smith from Cigarette while he was working for Cigarette, so I never doubted it for a second. Sorry if it is inaccurate, but I don't make the stuff up.
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Noah. The original was built by L. Ron Hubbard
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GREAT thread, Brownie, don't stop now...........
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AWsome stories Brownie and I would also buy the book.
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Noah. The original was built by L. Ron Hubbard
the missing piece of the puzzle, this is finally making sense too me.
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