41 Apache
 

Anyone know the history on the Apache Shogren has listed?

Saw it on the Lake early summer...sounds good, ran strong.

Check out the one On ebay I have no info on it just saw it.

Clean Apcahe
 

Boat is VERY Clean, freshwater unmolested, origional APACHE. Boat was used very little in past four years. The motors are "NEW", not rebuilds and run great. Motors were built by WESCO / Dave Wesseldyke 616-308-5119 or 616-662-2250 who can be reached at to discuss details. The motors will come with a warranty. The boat was only in water one time this year which was the day it was completed. You will not be disappointed.

Regards,

Scott Shogren

www.chicagofountain.com

A Few More Pics
 

A Few More Pics

These are nice
 

These are nice

whats it run? 80?

Is this the one that belonged to Kramer's Dad?

I think Jerrys dad had a Cadillac.
And Georges dad had a LTD.:D
Not sure on Kramers.:cool-smiley-011:

Is it me or is the trailer a little short?

runs 90
 

runs 90

The trailer looks fine to me. The bunks run past the last steel suport. However, from here I can't tell if you are short or not.:cool-smiley-027:


This must be smart azz day.:hitfan:

Gonna' need to see a GPS pic on that one. ;)

I would like to see that boat run 90. More like 85 down wind.

Kramers had a blue car, don't recall which type. Remeber the one they parked in handicaped and the crowd demolished it in the parking lot.

Shogren's website says 800's. That should be good for high 70's with a light load. If the planets all aligned, it might crack 80.

more offshore horse manure.......

Yes, it does 90
 

How about this, if it doesn't do 90 you don't have to buy it. If it does 90 you buy it for asking price. Sounds fair.

I would go for this, if I was in the market: If it pass 90 I buy it, if not, I get for free? :D (Sure would take care of that 90 statement in a heartbeat...)

Sounds like it might need new guages. LOL..

I'd definately be bringing a handheld GPS for that bet.

It was a granada (spelling)?:D

Oh yeah, that was it.

I think Scott and his gang test all of there used boats before the go for sale. Scott would not make a statement that he could not back up. Reputation means everything to Shogren marine. They are First class.

water speedo or gps? :hitfan:

No doubt they're highly reputable people. That's what makes the speed quote even that much more surprising. There's no secret to what it takes to get an Apache 41 to 90mph and that's not the combination.

A light-layup race hull with that power and drives will go 90. or so Shogren's is a full cabin s/s pleasure boat.

We have a 41 Apache will full cabin,850 SC's with 3A's.

Boat was advertised to do 90MPH and was told the numbers were once seen (liquid speedo). We have seen 83MPH on GPS and we know she can do more, but 90MPH??? Hmmmm, maybe 86, 87, but 90? We're not convinced of that yet, but it's not what's important. The ride kicks a$$ so we're not too worried about 3MPH. :cool-smiley-027:

If your boat's running 83 on 850's with an average load, that's like winning the lottery. I'm going to guess that your motors are putting out a tad more than 850. You're right though, you can go 83 any time you want, regardless of how rough it gets ;)

Could be Chris. We were told they were 800's thay dynoed out at 850, but we certainly can hit 85, 86 on any given day. We're still breaking the boat in, only owned her a month and Rob's not ready to stick the throttles on the dash for any long length of time. GPS is still climbing when we back out of the throttle doing 83.

We're thrilled that the boat runs like she does. She is so dialed in. The ride is the best we've ever experienced.

Here's a few pics from our ride yesterday! It was Apache water for sure! :D:D

That's awesome for a side-by-side, full-cabin boat. I'd sleep with those props under my pillow if I were you. Mine had about 825 per on 3's and I never could get it over 80. When I had the 750NA's in it, I couldn't get past 76 on the GPS. If I could reach 90 with the 1000's on sixes, I'd be thrilled.

Just wait until you get it in to some big water!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ef20flying.jpg

I think I saw that boat in Streeter, IL. Could it be the same one?

I know the motors are different from the ones that I saw.

Possibly Roger. I know it spent some time at Capt. Nabbers.

If it runs 90, those wieseldik 800's are underrated!!

We were out of the water yesterday, props out and all according to the other boat that was with us, but we didn't catch that on film unfortunately.

Not sure if I want to be out of the water that much, but I know Rob would love it! :D

Yeppers, Those 800's would have to be about 950's to hit 90 mph. Cabins REALLY slow down 41's. On the race 41's, Just filling the front fuel tanks, which are just forward of the helm will scrub off about 3 mph. You can imagine what a full cabin will do to top end speed.

We have two sets of props, one of them labbed. The labbed props are awesome for our top end speed. Yesterday at 4000RPM we saw 66.7 on the GPS. Still experimenting in the rougher water. This is all new to us. And we're loving it!

No tricks to it- tabs level, drives out a touch, push on the sticks, mash waves.

The pleasure Apache is a much better wave-crusher than the race version. All that extra weight helps- that's your payback for the loss of top end.

And 3's don't like 950.

Congrats on your new boat! Those were my props and Matt and Julie at Throttle Up worked them and they were perfect. You have a great wave basher and those motors of Tommy's are very strong. Enjoy. NK