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Stormrider 09-25-2007 07:48 AM

walter, i'm not convinced a single asd is the way to go.
I think if they were so great, you'd see more.
Now its a different story for a twin app.

And i'm concerned w/ handling at the dock.

kennyo 09-25-2007 07:53 AM

I'm with CJ, it looks goofy. But if it'll run a 100mph who cares!

wstultz 09-25-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2283584)
walter, i'm not convinced a single asd is the way to go.
I think if they were so great, you'd see more.
Now its a different story for a twin app.

And i'm concerned w/ handling at the dock.


I'd be interested in driving one myself. I love my twin but am not sure how it would react with a single. I hope we hear more about this Active Thunder.

I actually think it will react fine around the dock. The only thing I do with mine around the docks is trim it down. This helps it react a little quicker in getting the thrust under the stern.

Sydwayz 09-25-2007 09:35 AM

Again, no tabs installed because no one is sure what the boat will need, yet. It has not been run yet. It's getting 650HP.

Python82 09-25-2007 11:09 AM

My 24 with the Arneson is just as easy to dock is my 28 with twin Bravos. I would trade my Bravos for 2 Arnesons any day.

The only thing on my 24 that I have not worked on is the Arneson.

and Rik is the real deal

Hot Boat 09-25-2007 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2282767)
If anyone needs Dave's phone # I can send it to you.

Thanks for the offer but I already have it. We talk quite frequently. I'll ask him again later



What ever the story may be from other peoples past efforts. I do feel this is a great R & D project and I hope that it works well for you guys. Please keep us posted on the results.

Jim Craig 09-25-2007 12:06 PM

A number of years ago we converted a 24 Excalibur from a jet drive to a single Arneson power with a mild 502. Never had any major issues with plane or turning -- best was 75 mph. Dicked around with a few props to gain a little, finally a 4 blade clever from Hoss cured a lot of problems.

I always thought it was a neat project but after it was done we should have just went with a good sterndrive.

Jassman 09-25-2007 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Jim Craig (Post 2284011)
A number of years ago we converted a 24 Excalibur from a jet drive to a single Arneson power with a mild 502. Never had any major issues with plane or turning -- best was 75 mph. Dicked around with a few props to gain a little, finally a 4 blade clever from Hoss cured a lot of problems.

I always thought it was a neat project but after it was done we should have just went with a good sterndrive.

The problem is in these applications the stern drives simply suck.
then you would be like the majority, unfortunately broke down.

Big power x Sterndrive = one upset person:hitfan:

Stormrider 09-25-2007 01:30 PM

jeff,

mild 502 does not = big power.

I can see why the AT went w/ ASD; 650hp.

but jeff, these are not big heavy boats like 38ft plus.
many a smaller/lighter boats w/ big HP running bravo style drives w/o many probs. you have to know how to drive'em.
Now, the bigger heavy boats are another story.

i had 550hp in my 24 w/ beefed bravo... not a problem, and still none 3 seasons later w/ different owners.

Jassman 09-26-2007 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2284134)
jeff,

mild 502 does not = big power.

I can see why the AT went w/ ASD; 650hp.

but jeff, these are not big heavy boats like 38ft plus.
many a smaller/lighter boats w/ big HP running bravo style drives w/o many probs. you have to know how to drive'em.
Now, the bigger heavy boats are another story.

i had 550hp in my 24 w/ beefed bravo... not a problem, and still none 3 seasons later w/ different owners.

you are the exception, you know how to run a boat. Most guys I see around here are sticks to the wall, dont let off, run 5000 rpms all the time, and then cant figure ut why their stuff does not last. I missed the part about the mild 502's. So their is no misunderstanding I agree that that surface drives are not best for all applications. I do prefer them for their simplicity, track record, cost, but there will always be a give and take in what ever we choose. Jeff


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