I never admitted we didn't have a few problems. No hull failures and that's what counts. I honestly did not have customers calling me to complain.

so cosmic12 and Bossman are liars??? ummmm...

LOL, what a mess.

Dean - it sounds like LG would like you to post up Randy's rap sheet.

No $hit!

Well the pissing match is over as far as I am concerned. I have done nothing but told it as I lived it. I have way more but enough is enough. I just hope he has changed is ways. Over and out :angry-smiley-038::(

My husband, Byron Pritchett, bought our 1996 29' Profile in 1998 in showroom condition. The original owner was meticulous, which was a connection they definitely shared! We keep our boat on Lake George, NY. It has always been a head-turner, and my husband was a total high-performance guy. He named the boat "Just a Little Faster", which says it all! Byron was a boating magazine hound, and read every issue of Powerboat and Hot Boat cover-to-cover. He also owned 17 snowmobiles, and did all of his own work on his snowmobiles (and most of his friends'), and most of his own work on his boats. Most (maybe all) other high-performance guys on the Lake either knew Byron personally or by reputation. I can't remember ever pulling into the local popular restaurants on the water without someone gathering around the boat to compliment it and ask questions about its performance, even when we were surrounded by newer and bigger Fountains, Formulas and Bajas. We rarely made it through a meal without Byron hopping up and running down to the dock to help move boats around so that his would always be protected. This sounds irritatingly anal, but Byron had a unique charisma and charm that helped ease the annoyance!

In February 2004, Byron was in a horrible snowmobile accident. After several hours in the snow on a remote trail in the Adirondacks, he was transported to a local ER, then to Burlington hospital due to the extent of his injuries. It was necessary to amputate his right arm the first day in Burlington because the impact was so great it severed to main nerves going to his arm. I tried to take action immediately to plan for his eventual release, and knowing that Byron's passion in life was snowmobiling and boating, contacted his friends to start designing so he could get back into these activities as soon as possible, because I knew it would be the only way By would survive. He was the kind of guy who was always active, either working, playing or in the garage working on motors! Among the people I contacted via email in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep at the hospital were Randy and Debbie of Profile. The next day I received a very personal reply stating their concern for Byron and offering to modify the boat in whatever way needed to support his needs. I told this to all of his friends who frequently came up to the ICU, even though it was hours away for them to drive. Their support and personal interest in Byron offered me a little glimmer of hope that Byron might be able to somehow cope with this tragedy when he was released.

Byron never regained consciousness, and I lost him on March 2. His memorial service was held in Lake George, with an amazing show of support and love which reflected his unique energy and spirit that attracted so many people to him.

I decided to keep our Profile on the lake because it was too overwhelming to think of it being anywhere but on Byron's favorite spot in the world. His brother and I noticed a faint smell of gas when we first launched it, and several of his "motor-head" friends looked at it and offered different opinions. Most felt it was probably just old gas in the hull. On July 4 week-end when my brother-in-law removed the canvas covers, he discovered a huge amount of gas in the bilge. Byron's friend arranged to have the boat towed to a nearby marina, where they tested it for a couple of weeks before determining it most likely was a leak in the gas tank. In the meanwhile, we were in contact with Debbie and Randy, who offered their support from the start. After doing some tests that confirmed a leak, they sent a driver from Sumner, IA to Chatham, NY and picked up the boat. They discovered a pin-hole sized leak in the gas tank, replaced the entire gas tank, and returned the boat in about 2 week's time!!!!!!!! All this was at no charge!!!! I am writing to express my profound gratitude and support for Randy and Debbie (and Lorie!) for their integrity and reliability. We have other friends with Cigarette powerboats and other major manufacturer-powerboats who have experienced problems and had to fight every step of the way only to be disappointed in the results. The owners of Profile have stood by their boat, even though it was a 1996, and absolutely did the right thing. I know that our friends and my brother-in-law will absolutely enthusiastically support Profile in the future, and there will be more of them on Lake George in the future!! Thank you, Randy and Debbie, for your support at this devastating time in our lives.

Gratefully,

Lisa Pritchett

Does this sound like Randy is a criminal?

God I hate this crap. Lisa Pritchett??? Seems to me someone is posting in the 3rd person. I just noticed that the lgboats registered has come up the same one every post. Lisa exactly where did you buy the 29?

OK pal - are you calling ME a liar? Who the F* CK do you think you are??? :hitfan: I was there at that moment - not you!!!
I don't know you!. I have better things to do and nothing to gain by making something up with my LG experience in Miami. However; I was on one of your crappy Profiles at a boat show a few years ago. The cockpit floor flexed like crazy as I walked on it, the cabin floor made a cracking noise as I stepped out. After looking hard at it - I was disappointed in what I saw. Also, on the LG boat, there was a huge gap that was filled w/ caulk. It was where the tailpipe exited the transom.

I never said I rode in the boat - READ MY POST AGAIN!!!! It was docked on the outside ring dock. The boat shuddered AT THE DOCK when a boat wake hit it. I was not the only one that felt it.

The rep presenting the repeated numerous times that Randy Shultz was not involved w/ LG. He did tell the story of you selling Profile, but went on to say thay RS was not involved w/ LG.
There were two other OSO members there with me and they too heard the whole story too. You want them to chime in too??? I even think I have a picture of the boat with the reps in it. You want me to post that pic so you know who I spoke with.

No wonder this thread has the tone that it has. Too many people stating the same thing!!!

That said; I will say the LG boat LOOKED great!

How many $750K boats does a guy have to sell before he can spring for an OSO membership?

The lady thanks the wrong people. It should be Cosmic, Dean and the rest of us that paid for services never received. After reading that at least some of my money went to a go cause. Randy should ask the new buyers to come on here and meet the rest of the happy family of his. Cosmic, you must of got the rest of the can of bondo from my repairs.

Okay, so you only screw 4 of every 5 customers??? The odds are getting better...... hell, those odds are better than hitting lotto! WHO HOOOOO!!!!:cool-smiley-026::rolleyes:

if he had a clue as to how to do busienss math he would have ask "how many customers am I NOT going to get after screwing these guys over and what is THAT going to cost me"

So if they are selling more boats because of this then maybe they need to send us some commission checks:D I think I know that29 she is speaking of. Also how is she all the sudden useing Randy's log on??? Something very strange going on here. Who is it thats really posting this mess?

Good to hear info on some of these boat builders,good or bad.
And this sounds like you would want to stay far away from this mess.

The post from "Lisa Pritchett" is a customer testimonial cut and pasted from the profile powerboats web page. I highly doubt if she even knows it has been posted here. Link to the page here:

http://www.profilepowerboats.com/owner-review19.shtml

That being said, I have a friend that bought a new 1994 29 Profile from Offshore Marine in Lenexa, Kansas. I would think Randy would remember it as it was a one of a kind with dark blue hull & deep metallic silver striping. After the first year, it went back to the factory for a laundry list of things to be fixed under warranty. The color on the deck faded out in the first year. The cabin door would not latch in the open or closed position, and there were a bunch of other small things. His boat never had any major problems while he had it, but it was all of the little things that added up. When he got it back for the second year, they did try to fix the items, but none were done correctly. They repainted some areas poorly, but it looked better than it did when he sent it back. All in all, I would say it was a very cheaply made boat that definitely did not put up with the rigors of running every weekend at Lake of the Ozarks. That's my experience with Profile. It wasn't good, but it wasn't awful. I think he got what he paid for in a performance type boat.

Thanks jayhawk, I do know that boat,(the 29) it belonged to a very close friend of mine,he had it built. there is a list of things that weren't right about that one also but he chose not to deal with Randy and rather have a local shop take care of it. Smart man. After much F'ing around with it he got it real nice and it was clean as can be when he sold it and believe me he couldn't sell it fast enough as was very worried he would be stuck with it. That one was the only one that stayed looking good till he dumped it and it was a chore to do, so even the nicer one that was here had more problems than most knew about at the time.

Is it just me or is Liquid Glass an odd name for a boat? I thought this was another wax thread at first.

I'd read somewhere that "glass" is actually considered a liquid.
That's why you will see all the waves in very old glass like used in windows in the old farmhouse's and such.

If I learned anything from this thread - I won't be buying a Profile, or a LG. Not because of the boat, but more about the "personality" of the Factory.
The Builder of my 28 yr old boat graciously spent as much time with me at the factory as I wanted, and offered many options in some of the updates I'm trying to accomplish. The only money he's ever made off me is a couple shirts, and his wife even discounted those. The next day at the boat show, he came up and said hello to my wife before she even saw him.

an amorphous ceramic and its not the waves you see in old glass but the fact that the bottom edge will grow thicker than the top through time. Glass lacks the ability to form the long term bonds at the molecular level that a true solid does. But yes in the simplest term we call it a liquid. . . . . .


A good friend of mine has a 3? Profile. its a 91 i think. It was built from the factory as a raceboat and was called PlumCrazy and we also think may have also been Printers Devil at one time as well. Now keep in mind i know nothing of these boats out side of this one but i gotta tell ya its a pretty nice piece. There is not a stress crack in it (its original gel) and appears to be a decent build.

LG in Miami
 

I rode in the LG too, in Miami. I thought it was a fine boat, the ride was good, the cabin feature is great, and the interior is definitely the best out there as far as fit and finish and creature comforts, and.... I'm in the manufacturing business (not boats), infusion is the only way to go. Kudos to making this leap forward.

its called having class ,which peter does.

Ah Ha !

Wow - incredible!!
The Glass guru know's about all kinds of glass:D
Not exactly your own words - but thanks for pulling that up.
See, I'm not worthless around here, I actually do have some knowledge.

I need to get my azz moving on my boat so we can set up some time.
Look forward to having a few beers with ya the next time we're up that way:D Boat wil be in tow.

actually they are my own words. . . . physics is my other hobby :cool-smiley-011:


(plus my father is a glass process engineer :D)



an yes get your azz in gear on that boat of yours. Let me know when your gonna be up this way next

ive only ever been on one Profile and it was when i was quite a bit younger. It was owned by boxer Tommy Morrison before he found out about the aids issue. Even after all the abuse I saw that boat take (i worked for the marina that held it), it had a lot of hard years on it and still running good last id seen it. As far as small issues like cabin doors not latching after a year or so, i had those problems with my brand new Cobalt. I think every manufacturer has issues like this, but what it boils down to is how they treat the customer when they bring it in for repairs. When I worked for SeaRay, we RARELY had a boat come in new that didnt require some additional work from bad repairs made at the factory or odd fitting parts. But as a premium dealer, we fixed them and billed the factory (i believe). I think itd be cool to see someone take pictures of why they think this new boat is such a bad idea.. Maybe this guy has some business partners now that have a better reputation and can help keep him more organized and pay better attention to client requests.. As far as him getting on here and callin someone out on how fat they are, speaks volumes for their personality..
id rather spend my (nonexistant) 750k with someone i know is going to be there for me when i do find non-latching cabin doors, etc.

In Toledo, you either are in glass, bolting together Jeeps or digging ditches :)

Well, I'm impressed!
Physics is actually a hobby of mine as well.
Lately, I've been studying Nano-technology and thin-film coating/application. Very cool stuff. High vacuum evaporation is pretty interesting - and somewhat hard to grasp at times.

I'll get to work. I'll let you know on the next trip home.

Yeah, kind of my point. Not one that is going to argue with me on a forum board. The only answer I want to hear is "call me, we'll get it fixed", or "you're asking for the world here, and I only gave you what you asked for, originally" the current thread on Carrie Covers seems to be a "you asked for the world", I warned you, and you were only willing to pay for a dirt lot.
Just an opinion.

If I'd have known digging ditches was an option, I may have stayed.
Thanks for pointing that out. A new career option:D

The boat needed a new transom do to some aftermarket stuff installed with no sealer buy the previous owner ....after three full day my brother finally got all the old transom wood out holly crap was that layed up tuff..........I have done a few transom jobs on everything from 39 ocean exspress's to sea rays and this one was the hardest to remove .........even if some of the lines are not perfect this thing did not cost an arm and a leg new and was very fast and shows no stress.....for a race boat with many races under her belt that says a lot in my book .....we hope to race this boat again by the end of this year with OPA in class 4 .......(not scared profile owner)

he doesn't have too . he built great quality boats

I remember when it was all ball bearings........now its all particals :cool-smiley-011:

. . . well i do fiberglass an drive my Jeep in ditches . . . does thats still count? :D

You could stop drinking!!!!:D

As far as the LG cat shuddering when a wake hit it at the dock, all cats have some odd shudder type sounds when waves hit inside the tunnel when they are off plane. It's odd, but it's a fact.

hey . . . now your just talk'in crazy . . . :drink:

SORRY!! What was I thinking!!!!:D

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i wonder who owns the rights to the name liquid glass could this be a lawsuit waiting to happen?

© 1999-2008 Liquid Glass Enterprises, Inc.
All rights reserved. Liquid Glass and Connoisseur's Choice are registered trademarks of Liquid Glass Enterprises, Inc.

My buddy owns the boat now and has for years.. Its still in great shape and runs good. Its been to LOTO many times and it hasn't broke yet. I believe it was "snake eyes" back when TM had it.

then we could call him "not an assclown again" good to see custom touch back, where you been?:D

talk about a boat that was abused.. that thing was rode hard and put away stinkin nasty wet and full of beer and bikini tops every time they sent it back. it was my job at 15 to scrub her down, disinfect it and get it stocked back up for the following weekend. One time we were cleanin it out and found a bunch of C02 containers like they use on sodafountain machines layin in the cabin. We called him to see what hewanted us to do with them. His response was something along the lines of "oh, fAck, i forgot about those, man what a wild nite i imagine the bar will be lookin for those sometime soon. ah well, you guys can have them, figured you could use them for scuba divin or somethin"...


riiiiight, thanks a-hole.:grinser010:. i think ill go scuba divin with a C02 tank..

if the boats still holding up, that speaks VOLUMES for profile right there.. I was always in love with that boat. I think it was still named snake eyes even back then.. cool ride.

:cool-smiley-011::grinser010:

I read a couple of post that mentioned wavy fiberglass. Would this be considered wavy. The deck looks like there are a couple of waves in it. I'm not saying its a bad thing, just that I see it on A LOT of boats.