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phragle 03-04-2008 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2469928)
In Toledo, you either are in glass, bolting together Jeeps or digging ditches :)

I live in Toledo, my brother in law works for libby glass, and my father and I have a ditch witch and a small trenching co. :cool-smiley-027:

stainless 03-04-2008 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2470782)
I read a couple of post that mentioned wavy fiberglass. Would this be considered wavy. The deck looks like there are a couple of waves in it. I'm not saying its a bad thing, just that I see it on A LOT of boats.

In outerlimits case , the waves come out when you stop :party-smiley-004:

Joe92GT 03-04-2008 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2470782)
I read a couple of post that mentioned wavy fiberglass. Would this be considered wavy. The deck looks like there are a couple of waves in it. I'm not saying its a bad thing, just that I see it on A LOT of boats.

No, those are ripples compared to the profile I looked at. I am talking surface variations of 1/8 of an inch or more.

I was looking at some brand new cigarettes at a boat show, and saw waves too, its very hard to have 30 feet of absolutely perfect deck. I would never expect that to happen. But the waves on the cigarette were surface variations in the thousandths of an inch.

legacy 03-04-2008 02:49 PM

I dare you to try to find a wave or a ripple in a skater!:D

Zudnic 03-04-2008 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by kvscarab38 (Post 2470580)
i wonder who owns the rights to the name liquid glass could this be a lawsuit waiting to happen?

© 1999-2008 Liquid Glass Enterprises, Inc.
All rights reserved. Liquid Glass and Connoisseur's Choice are registered trademarks of Liquid Glass Enterprises, Inc.

Depends. Most jurisdiction take confusion into account and if the business are engaged in the same arena. I'd have to look up the exact laws on this. My car club uses the manufactures name without problems. A member became disgruntled and started another club. They named their club Rebel Region of ------- . The disgruntled group tried to register our clubs name as part of theirs in other words. Both our club and the manufacture are suing them to drop use of our name. Since they are engaged in the same activity we won that portion of the case. The way the law reads the most important key is being engaged in the same business.

stainless 03-04-2008 03:38 PM

I was referring to the water type waves as in the photo :D

cosmic12 03-04-2008 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2470782)
I read a couple of post that mentioned wavy fiberglass. Would this be considered wavy. The deck looks like there are a couple of waves in it. I'm not saying its a bad thing, just that I see it on A LOT of boats.

The little waves on the deck are understandable and not that bad when you look at the gloss of the paint on that OL. On any Profile I have seen they aren't like that they are more like hills and valleys. Also if you look at most boats all the body,speed lines, strakes, chines, rub rails ect-- ect are straight. It is very hard to find one on any of the Profiles I have delt with, none out of 11 boats.:(

FormulaOne 03-04-2008 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Zudnic (Post 2470955)
Depends. Most jurisdiction take confusion into account and if the business are engaged in the same arena. I'd have to look up the exact laws on this. My car club uses the manufactures name without problems. A member became disgruntled and started another club. They named their club Rebel Region of ------- . The disgruntled group tried to register our clubs name as part of theirs in other words. Both our club and the manufacture are suing them to drop use of our name. Since they are engaged in the same activity we won that portion of the case. The way the law reads the most important key is being engaged in the same business.

Not to hijack a thread or make it seem like I follow this sport (if you consider it a sport) but didnt the WWF (wrestling) have to change their name due to a case against WWF(World Wildlife Federation)? I think that also branding comes into play.

TexomaPowerboater 03-04-2008 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2471004)
The little waves on the deck are understandable and not that bad when you look at the gloss of the paint on that OL. On any Profile I have seen they aren't like that they are more like hills and valleys. Also if you look at most boats all the body,speed lines, strakes, chines, rub rails ect-- ect are straight. It is very hard to find one on any of the Profiles I have delt with, none out of 11 boats.:(

Cosmic and Joe - Thanks, I know I've seen them on plenty of boats, so its hard to gauge between the difference in what is OK and what is not.

bouyhunter 03-04-2008 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2471042)
Cosmic and Joe - Thanks, I know I've seen them on plenty of boats, so its hard to gauge between the difference in what is OK and what is not.

I didn't see anything in the glasswork that I thought was bad at the show from any of the builders I looked at.
But, I was really surprised on some of the VERY high end boats to see sloppy caulk work filling gaps, and unfinished upholstery edges.
Maybe my expectations were too high for a boat that I'll never be able to afford. And maybe I should lighten up on myself as I work on my own boat, and things aren't absolutely perfect in my mind.

cosmic12 03-04-2008 06:40 PM

Tim, there will always be something we can pick out on any boat. Perfection is in the eye of the beholder. On the the other hand there is the little things and then there are the big gapping mistakes and F,ups that have shown up on boats that were sold as high dollar Offshore Performance Boats that were just unexcusable and never addressed. You now the old line. Is that a real _______ or is that a Sears _____

glassdave 03-04-2008 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2471228)
. . . . You now the old line. Is that a real _______ or is that a Sears _____ . . .

. . . . . is that a real Poncho or is that a Sears poncho? :D . . . anybody know where that line came from? :cool-smiley-027:

jayboat 03-04-2008 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 2471254)
. . . . . is that a real Poncho or is that a Sears poncho? :D . . . anybody know where that line came from? :cool-smiley-027:

Frank Zappa, Kosmic Debris :cool-smiley-027::cool-smiley-027::cool-smiley-027:

cosmic12 03-04-2008 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by jayboat (Post 2471257)
Frank Zappa, Kosmic Debris :cool-smiley-027::cool-smiley-027::cool-smiley-027:

cosmic debris That has been the name of every boat I have owened starting in 1987:cool-smiley-027:

jayboat 03-04-2008 07:15 PM

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That explains your screen name!

I love Frank. Miss that mofo.

bouyhunter 03-04-2008 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 2471254)
. . . . . is that a real Poncho or is that a Sears poncho? :D . . . anybody know where that line came from? :cool-smiley-027:

I think it was a rhetorical question to me - me and cosmic have had this joke going on for a few years now - but I'm not surprised you picked up on it.

"The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down"
One of my favorite lines.:D



Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2471228)
Tim, there will always be something we can pick out on any boat. Perfection is in the eye of the beholder. On the the other hand there is the little things and then there are the big gapping mistakes and F,ups that have shown up on boats that were sold as high dollar Offshore Performance Boats that were just unexcusable and never addressed. You now the old line. Is that a real _______ or is that a Sears _____

I understand, but I guess, at a certain point...
If I'm gonna spend upwards of 1/2 Mil on a boat, I don't expect to see sloppy caulk, and raw edges on the upholstery.
Not that I EVER forsee myself spending that kind of coin.
My point is more that, I won't even accept that kind of work on my 28 yr old boat as I work on it myself - I don't get how a builder thinks it's that impressive to send a boat to the show with a great concept, and flashy things and details that catch your eye, but pay no attention to the finest details, and the ultimate usabilty, and longevity of the product.

glassdave 03-04-2008 07:22 PM

Look here brother. . . who you jiving with that cosmik debris :D



aint heard that in a while, somehow i figured Jayboat would know it :cool-smiley-027: . . . Apostrophe



watch out where the husky's go

cosmic12 03-04-2008 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by jayboat (Post 2471274)
That explains your screen name!

I love Frank. Miss that mofo.

Where did you find that pic???? I HAVE MY NEW AVITAR YA!! But I've got a cyristal ball :cool-smiley-011:

jayboat 03-04-2008 08:06 PM

Nanook Rubs It
 

Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 2471286)
Look here brother. . . who you jiving with that cosmik debris :D



aint heard that in a while, somehow i figured Jayboat would know it :cool-smiley-027: . . . Apostrophe



watch out where the husky's go

Dave- I'll take that as a compliment! :cool-smiley-027:

...he started whuppin up on my favorite baby seal with a lead-filled snowshoe...

ain't if funny how easy the words come back to ya?
damn... that song brings back memories.

jayboat 03-04-2008 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2471297)
Where did you find that pic???? I HAVE MY NEW AVITAR YA!! But I've got a cyristal ball :cool-smiley-011:

no freakin clue... somewhere on the innertubes.
glad to be of assistance.

It seems we have managed to hijack this thread to the outer reaches of the tundra... Frank would be happy. :cool-smiley-011:

glassdave 03-04-2008 08:10 PM

after meeting you in Key West it just made sense:D i think tomorrow morning i'll have breakfast at


St. Alphonzos pancake resteraunt :cool-smiley-027:

cosmic12 03-04-2008 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by jayboat (Post 2471377)
no freakin clue... somewhere on the innertubes.
glad to be of assistance.

It seems we have managed to hijack this thread to the outer reaches of the tundra... Frank would be happy. :cool-smiley-011:

Thank you :D I am so glad to see this thread going somewhere positive. As I have used it before about the threads."its the slime oozzin out from the screen ( tv set):evilb:

jayboat 03-04-2008 08:16 PM

You ain't old enough to remember that album. :p

See what I mean? It was St. Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast.

pass the bong, bogart.

Zudnic 03-04-2008 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by bouyhunter (Post 2471281)
I understand, but I guess, at a certain point...
If I'm gonna spend upwards of 1/2 Mil on a boat, I don't expect to see sloppy caulk, and raw edges on the upholstery.
Not that I EVER forsee myself spending that kind of coin.
My point is more that, I won't even accept that kind of work on my 28 yr old boat as I work on it myself - I don't get how a builder thinks it's that impressive to send a boat to the show with a great concept, and flashy things and details that catch your eye, but pay no attention to the finest details, and the ultimate usabilty, and longevity of the product.

Good points.... For that kind of money from builder or dealer I also expect decent customer service.

cosmic12 03-04-2008 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 2471379)
after meeting you in Key West it just made sense:D i think tomorrow morning i'll have breakfast at


St. Alphonzos pancake resteraunt :cool-smiley-027:

Just don't be hav'n no mystery meat wit does mashed tatos, and don't forget yer nakin. :grinser010:

cosmic12 03-04-2008 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by bouyhunter (Post 2471281)
I think it was a rhetorical question to me - me and cosmic have had this joke going on for a few years now - but I'm not surprised you picked up on it.

"The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down"
One of my favorite lines.:D




I understand, but I guess, at a certain point...
If I'm gonna spend upwards of 1/2 Mil on a boat, I don't expect to see sloppy caulk, and raw edges on the upholstery.
Not that I EVER forsee myself spending that kind of coin.
My point is more that, I won't even accept that kind of work on my 28 yr old boat as I work on it myself - I don't get how a builder thinks it's that impressive to send a boat to the show with a great concept, and flashy things and details that catch your eye, but pay no attention to the finest details, and the ultimate usabilty, and longevity of the product.

I agree if I were laying that kind of money out for anything I would have to get out my zurcon encrusted twezers ta pick it apart :D

glassdave 03-04-2008 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by jayboat (Post 2471393)
You ain't old enough to remember that album. :p

See what I mean? It was St. Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast.

pass the bong, bogart.


dammit! . . . ya got me on that one. I typed it before i thought about it. But i did still grow up listening to it. My brother played it all the time. :cool-smiley-011:


Where i stole the margerine :D

bouyhunter 03-05-2008 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2471460)
I agree if I were laying that kind of money out for anything I would have to get out my zurcon encrusted twezers ta pick it apart :D


The thread for the interior comes from a farm in Montana.
Raising it up, waxing it down.
In a little white box that you can sell uptown.:D

Chris Sunkin 03-05-2008 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 2470799)
I live in Toledo, my brother in law works for libby glass, and my father and I have a ditch witch and a small trenching co. :cool-smiley-027:

The "Toledo Trifecta".

Some guys have all the luck.

phragle 03-05-2008 02:36 PM

and he was beating me up and and I had to pick up sticks and................



just how do you like your gravy??

cosmic12 03-05-2008 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by bouyhunter (Post 2472198)
The thread for the interior comes from a farm in Montana.
Raising it up, waxing it down.
In a little white box that you can sell uptown.:D

By myself I wouldn't have no cause. :D Its the same place where they raise those pigmy poneys,, to ride like a cowboy with the twezers gleam'n in the moonlitey night. ;)

lightning jet 03-05-2008 09:08 PM

this would be funny chit if I knew what you stoners where talking about............................I gotta book ,its been cave lol

customtouch 03-06-2008 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 2470739)
then we could call him "not an assclown again"



good to see custom touch back, where you been?:D


LMAO I forgot about ole' N.A.C.

cosmic12 03-08-2008 07:34 PM

OK, guys I have gotten a bunch of messages asking me what I know about L.G.boats and how they are and so on. So just to set the record straight I know nothing of them and haven't even seen one and don't want to. Anything I said in this thread was about Randy and when he had Profile. That is all that I know and need to know. And I believe that all anyone was trying to do was warn everyone about his history and Profile boats. If in fact he has changed then more power to him but I think that it has been proved otherwise by some of his posts on here and the fact that he never did come back to answer for the facts presented after his attacks on us. So I am done with this and please no more messages I know nothing about L.G. Happy Boating and a good summer to come to all.

Jassman 01-23-2010 09:40 AM

WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO LIQUID GLASS.. I thought I read one or two was sold over seas and they had orders of 5 boats.. where are they all

Jassman 01-23-2010 09:59 AM

Someone told me that the new 40 was better than anything else on the market..even better than NT, MTI and Skater..he was referring to some red 38 model.. who's ever boat he was talking about...:drink:

CanDo 01-23-2010 11:12 AM

Is liquid glass paying any royalties to skater for the use of their hull design?

Steve 1 01-23-2010 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by CanDo (Post 3030027)
Is liquid glass paying any royalties to skater for the use of their hull design?

Good Point why not just buy a Skater?

thisistank 01-23-2010 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by CanDo (Post 3030027)
Is liquid glass paying any royalties to skater for the use of their hull design?

Nordic did...After the fact!:eek:

Jassman 01-23-2010 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3030044)
Nordic did...After the fact!:eek:

Tank..what happened there..didnt read about that


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