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blume 01-09-2008 01:05 PM

boats fire power?
 
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What about the Black SUV's??

dreamer 01-09-2008 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by mccaffertee (Post 2399681)
No way, get them before they get us...

If you had a few thugs hangin around outside your house late at night, and they are coming up on your porch - what do you do? I say take action and don't wait until they make a move.


1 we shot down a passenger plane back in the day


2 thugs arent on the back porch.... we're in their back porch

eichhoma 01-09-2008 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by mccaffertee (Post 2399681)
No way, get them before they get us...

If you had a few thugs hangin around outside your house late at night, and they are coming up on your porch - what do you do? I say take action and don't wait until they make a move.

WE were the ones just outside THEIR house though.... That kind of mentality would only lead to mor ecivilians getting killed; like the ones on the passenger plane.

salesmanship 01-09-2008 01:28 PM

Maybe it was just "Loose Cannon" and a couple of other guys on another poker run. :evilb:

dreamer 01-09-2008 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by eichhoma (Post 2399715)
WE were the ones just outside THEIR house though.... That kind of mentality would only lead to mor ecivilians getting killed; like the ones on the passenger plane.


im glad im not the only one here with common sense...

hey there r nut jobs.... but the killem all mentality is why we r hated every where.... arent we the ones who f^cked up their country with the CIA and the shaw of iran

sellsman11 01-09-2008 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 2399845)
im glad im not the only one here with common sense...

arent we the ones who f^cked up their country with the CIA and the shaw of iran

That is a joke right?! Are you familiar with what was going on in that region during that time period?

mccaffertee 01-09-2008 04:55 PM


but the killem all mentality is why we r hated every where....
but the worrying about being hated mentality is THE BIGGER PROBLEM~

DMOORE 01-09-2008 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 2399713)
1 we shot down a passenger plane back in the day


2 thugs arent on the back porch.... we're in their back porch



You might want to do a bit of research on the plane bit.




Darrell.

WMF 01-09-2008 08:46 PM

here is the video of the U.S. Navy Released Today.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eNL6DyH_IfA

johnnyboatman 01-09-2008 08:51 PM

remember the last time they got close to a navy ship, they blew the side out of it and someones kid was killed. who cares why were they protectour own people:cool-smiley-027:

1CE 01-09-2008 11:08 PM

ya get along
 

Originally Posted by jhiguy377 (Post 2397408)
"why can't we all just get along?"----they're people too, ya'know

just not with the type of fools that will pull the pin on them-selves and their own children, makes NO sense @ ALL--:Whatever:

CAP071 01-10-2008 07:07 AM

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by DMOORE (Post 2397459)
That's the problem. The skippers are so afraid to do anything because the politicians will want to string someone up, if people(the enemy) are killed. The rules of engagement are nuts. They have to blow a hole in the side of your boat before you can respond. Being a former SEAL, I can tell you, having to sit down for a briefing from a LAWYER, before you go in the field, does not instill confidence in your leadership.



Darrell.

Most people think we can just pull a trigger and shoot. HA What a joke. They have to strike first. You can't shoot just because a guy in a row boat comes too close.

Most people Just can't handle the truth! :D

CAP071 01-10-2008 07:08 AM

I heard all they wanted to do was put an OSO sticker on the Hull, and then raft up for a party! :drink:

Chris Sunkin 01-10-2008 07:29 AM

The shoot-down of the Iranian Air A-300 came right on the heels of a flare-up in the Straits. An Iranian Mirage had just previously fired two missiles into the USS Stark, killing a number of our servicemen. Then, Iran mined international waters in the region, one of which was struck by a US frigate. At the time of the incident the US navy was escorting oil tankers through international waters, shielding them from the hostile actions of a rogue state. The airliner in question was not transmitting a proper identification signal and had just departed a shared commercial/military airbase. While unfortunate, the entire situation was created by Iran's belligerent behavior in the region. Had they not been antagonizing their peaceful neighbors in the region or fabricating international incidents just for the dramatic effect, we wouldn't have been rushing warships to the region. They were 100% responsible for the heightened tensions and the wartime postures. Then, in a further illustration of their cluelessness, they were threading civilian flights through a conflict region. While friendly fire incidents are unfortunate, they are a reality of conflict.

Chris Sunkin 01-10-2008 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by CAP071 (Post 2400699)
:rolleyes:

Most people think we can just pull a trigger and shoot. HA What a joke. They have to strike first. You can't shoot just because a guy in a row boat comes too close.

Like the USS Cole?

A 30' boat with no visible medium-weight armament is probably going to get the benefit of the doubt. At 200 yards, there isn't any conventional weapon that could be carried on that craft that would pose a significant threat.

If they had attempted to come along side, I'm certain they would have been engaged.

mccaffertee 01-10-2008 12:09 PM

Bottom line is, although it's unfortunate to lose innocent civilians, it is the cost of security and a risk that we must/should take - I would rather wipe out a few of "them" by accident than RISK them achieving their goals with "US". And to be honest, I can care less about what "others" think of us.

Bubbletop409 01-10-2008 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by jhiguy377 (Post 2397408)
"why can't we all just get along?"----they're people too, ya'know

YA, the same kind of people that fly planes into building, and recruit women and children as suicide bombers. Back in the mid 80's when the USS Missouri was in SF bay, we took a ride across the bay to see her. Wife and kids in the boat, and long before these terrorists activities were taking place, and I was warned off while idling in a non threating manner. I would say the skippers of those Navy ships showed great restraint in refraining from defending themselves with extreme prejuidice.

Larry

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Ironmanwb 01-10-2008 06:29 PM

NUKE'EM

The entire middle east should be wiped off the map and made into a parking lot for China.

mccaffertee 01-10-2008 06:58 PM


NUKE'EM
The entire middle east should be wiped off the map and made into a parking lot for China
Actually, didn't that work in Hiroshima? I'd vote to do it!

Sloman 01-10-2008 08:57 PM

Here is another clip they love to mess with us and then say its our fault we should of sunk them. We were in international waters and they were to close no if an or butts, then they might learn we ain't to be messed with. We are not like the British and we are not going to let them take some our boys hostage in international waters and play it out in the media like its our fault. I hope for there sake they mind our warnings.

http://www.break.com/index/iran-provoking-us-navy1.html

satisfactionII 01-11-2008 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by CAP071 (Post 2400700)
I heard all they wanted to do was put an OSO sticker on the Hull, and then raft up for a party! :drink:

Maybe they were thinking of jumping the bow wakes? :grinser010:

PhantomChaos 01-11-2008 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by satisfactionII (Post 2402204)
Maybe they were thinking of jumping the bow wakes? :grinser010:



If so.....I hope they had lanyards on!!!!!! Otherwise is something happened, there go our insurance rates! :D :D

dmaxx3500 01-11-2008 06:10 PM

im told if we had shot at them ,they would have used their silkworm missles[chinese made and deadly accurite] on the 5-6 shore batterys near the straits ,then what should we have done?

dreamer 01-11-2008 06:41 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080111/...a/iran_us_navy

looks like we did shoot......


leaked info about other similar incidents that didnt make any news

MitchStellin 01-11-2008 07:37 PM

As I was watching the video I though they should be firing warning shots, I guess they did and it worked. You know they were just pushing our buttons, they wanted us to fire on them so they could escalate it thru fire power and the media. Why the PDFs? they expected to have to swim, they really thought we would sink them. The problem is these boats could carry a big payload and get there fast. It was very clear the boats were light, the way they rode in the waves you could tell they were empty but still it would be enough to seriously damage any size vessel. We did good, we did not stoop to their level and we stood our ground. I like the drone idea, just race along side, in front, on top, behind..all over the place. Maybe tape a Coran on the belly so they think it is some kind of vengeful God......you know, the one who said to kill 10s of 1000s.....


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