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1CE 01-09-2008 11:08 PM

ya get along
 

Originally Posted by jhiguy377 (Post 2397408)
"why can't we all just get along?"----they're people too, ya'know

just not with the type of fools that will pull the pin on them-selves and their own children, makes NO sense @ ALL--:Whatever:

CAP071 01-10-2008 07:07 AM

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by DMOORE (Post 2397459)
That's the problem. The skippers are so afraid to do anything because the politicians will want to string someone up, if people(the enemy) are killed. The rules of engagement are nuts. They have to blow a hole in the side of your boat before you can respond. Being a former SEAL, I can tell you, having to sit down for a briefing from a LAWYER, before you go in the field, does not instill confidence in your leadership.



Darrell.

Most people think we can just pull a trigger and shoot. HA What a joke. They have to strike first. You can't shoot just because a guy in a row boat comes too close.

Most people Just can't handle the truth! :D

CAP071 01-10-2008 07:08 AM

I heard all they wanted to do was put an OSO sticker on the Hull, and then raft up for a party! :drink:

Chris Sunkin 01-10-2008 07:29 AM

The shoot-down of the Iranian Air A-300 came right on the heels of a flare-up in the Straits. An Iranian Mirage had just previously fired two missiles into the USS Stark, killing a number of our servicemen. Then, Iran mined international waters in the region, one of which was struck by a US frigate. At the time of the incident the US navy was escorting oil tankers through international waters, shielding them from the hostile actions of a rogue state. The airliner in question was not transmitting a proper identification signal and had just departed a shared commercial/military airbase. While unfortunate, the entire situation was created by Iran's belligerent behavior in the region. Had they not been antagonizing their peaceful neighbors in the region or fabricating international incidents just for the dramatic effect, we wouldn't have been rushing warships to the region. They were 100% responsible for the heightened tensions and the wartime postures. Then, in a further illustration of their cluelessness, they were threading civilian flights through a conflict region. While friendly fire incidents are unfortunate, they are a reality of conflict.

Chris Sunkin 01-10-2008 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by CAP071 (Post 2400699)
:rolleyes:

Most people think we can just pull a trigger and shoot. HA What a joke. They have to strike first. You can't shoot just because a guy in a row boat comes too close.

Like the USS Cole?

A 30' boat with no visible medium-weight armament is probably going to get the benefit of the doubt. At 200 yards, there isn't any conventional weapon that could be carried on that craft that would pose a significant threat.

If they had attempted to come along side, I'm certain they would have been engaged.

mccaffertee 01-10-2008 12:09 PM

Bottom line is, although it's unfortunate to lose innocent civilians, it is the cost of security and a risk that we must/should take - I would rather wipe out a few of "them" by accident than RISK them achieving their goals with "US". And to be honest, I can care less about what "others" think of us.

Bubbletop409 01-10-2008 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by jhiguy377 (Post 2397408)
"why can't we all just get along?"----they're people too, ya'know

YA, the same kind of people that fly planes into building, and recruit women and children as suicide bombers. Back in the mid 80's when the USS Missouri was in SF bay, we took a ride across the bay to see her. Wife and kids in the boat, and long before these terrorists activities were taking place, and I was warned off while idling in a non threating manner. I would say the skippers of those Navy ships showed great restraint in refraining from defending themselves with extreme prejuidice.

Larry

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Ironmanwb 01-10-2008 06:29 PM

NUKE'EM

The entire middle east should be wiped off the map and made into a parking lot for China.

mccaffertee 01-10-2008 06:58 PM


NUKE'EM
The entire middle east should be wiped off the map and made into a parking lot for China
Actually, didn't that work in Hiroshima? I'd vote to do it!

Sloman 01-10-2008 08:57 PM

Here is another clip they love to mess with us and then say its our fault we should of sunk them. We were in international waters and they were to close no if an or butts, then they might learn we ain't to be messed with. We are not like the British and we are not going to let them take some our boys hostage in international waters and play it out in the media like its our fault. I hope for there sake they mind our warnings.

http://www.break.com/index/iran-provoking-us-navy1.html


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